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BCP1928 said:

Of course. But it is good to keep in mind that people of other branches of Christianity and other faiths believe just as devotedly in their creator God as you do in yours. To deny or belittle the authenticity of their faith is not a strong position for you to take in this discussion.

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Other branches of Christianity? Do you mean denominations what does that even mean? I’m sharing my personal conviction and understanding of this subject make of it what you will. As I told the other person I don’t need to validate other people’s religions because according to the Bible they are respectfully false and deceptive. I don’t mean that to be mean or belittle others but this is plainly what the holy book says and my main objective is to influence and help others to come to the truth. It’s not to be mean or anything but I’m not going to endorse a lie. I’m sorry if that offends anyone but I don’t feel right about doing that.

SelfSim said:

I'm pretty clear that I understand where you're coming from.
What's also clear to me, is that science and your beliefs are only related by the fact that they are both products of the human mind. This, itself, is also easily demonstrable via science.

At the end of the day, what matters (to me) the most, is when people think not only that things from their faith exist, but also that the attributes of such faith, is used by them, as justification to export their beliefs onto me, (and others).

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Well if you feel offended by anything I stated you have the free will to ignore my commentary. I’m not forcing my ideas on you but you asked so I just present it how I see it.

sjastro said:

Recall in an earlier post I made before this thread was temporarily closed science is unfalsifiable when it comes to proving the existence or non existence of God.
Isaac Newton comes to mind apart from being one of the greatest scientists in history, he was a devoutly religious person albeit practicing a form of Christianity based on Arianism which was considered heretical.
When asked what caused gravity he came up with an answer any scientist whether they be a Christian or atheist would make.

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Whereas scientists can have a religious faith, science is not a faith based subject as experiment and observations are the very antithesis to faith as the objectives are to disprove scientific theories and hypotheses, not confirm them as one would expect if science is faith based.

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I think that is often the intent of science although it’s not explicitly expressed out loud. I find it often to be biased and the people quite unreasonable at times. If you find the opposite then that’s your opinion but it’s not factual.

sjastro said:

Recall in an earlier post I made before this thread was temporarily closed science is unfalsifiable when it comes to proving the existence or non existence of God.
Isaac Newton comes to mind apart from being one of the greatest scientists in history, he was a devoutly religious person albeit practicing a form of Christianity based on Arianism which was considered heretical.
When asked what caused gravity he came up with an answer any scientist whether they be a Christian or atheist would make.

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Whereas scientists can have a religious faith, science is not a faith based subject as experiment and observations are the very antithesis to faith as the objectives are to disprove scientific theories and hypotheses, not confirm them as one would expect if science is faith based.

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As I said and will reiterate science is something you have faith in because it is not always proven as factual yet people still believe in and put their trust in science. It is not absolute truth as there are ongoing studies and it often proves itself wrong. I’m not going to continue debating because you are set on your beliefs and I don’t have anything to debate.

AG_BIC96 said:

As I said and will reiterate science is something you have faith in because it is not always proven as factual yet people still believe in and put their trust in science. It is not absolute truth as there are ongoing studies and it often proves itself wrong. I’m not going to continue debating because you are set on your beliefs and I don’t have anything to debate.

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And by science I’m not referring to observable absolute truths such as small scale mutations but I’m referring to scientific theories such as macro evolution which still have yet to be proven as absolute truth. I think I need to make that clear distinction and clarify. There are certain things that we can observe in the natural world that can be proven because they are tested a quite obvious and just as an aside none of those things conflict with the biblical narrative. But there are certain theories that are just not true because they are not proven to be absolute observable truths, and that’s why I state it takes faith to believe in those things.

AV1611VET said:

Jesus brought to light an important principle.

Luke 12:34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Lots of people invest a huge portion of their treasures (time & money) in getting that college degree.

And they'll guard it tooth and nail.

And should anyone dare tell them they are wrong in what they believe, they had better be prepared for a fight.

Someone's not going to go work in a lab for twelve hours, come home and see an idjit like me on the Internet criticizing their particular branch of science, and take it lightly.

Especially if said idjit is fond of saying: SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE.

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Well you’re not an idiot you’re a rational individual with the heart of God. And we can have a keen interest in science but the aim is not to idolize it because it’s a creation God made it. Atleast give credit to the creator he deserves all the credit. Our treasures should be stored in heaven not on earth where thrives break in to steal, Amen. I know exactly what you mean though it’s hard to give up the dream of being a big shot scientist but all those dreams and notoriety and what not pale in comparison to a life with Christ.

AG_BIC96 said:

And by science I’m not referring to observable absolute truths such as small scale mutations but I’m referring to scientific theories such as macro evolution which still have yet to be proven as absolute truth. I think I need to make that clear distinction and clarify. There are certain things that we can observe in the natural world that can be proven because they are tested a quite obvious and just as an aside none of those things conflict with the biblical narrative. But there are certain theories that are just not true because they are not proven to be absolute observable truths, and that’s why I state it takes faith to believe in those things.

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I don’t do this for my health I give up the energy to bring glory and honor to God because he’s trying to reach as many people as possible and wants them with Him. I think that’s what some of the people in the comments are confused about like why I’m being so intense about it.

AV1611VET said:

God bless you!

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God Bless you too Brother we will keep in touch. We have to keep working and applying not the knowledge of the world but teaching people with the knowledge and logic of God to illuminate this darkness because the devil has a lot of people, feeling, confused afraid and lost. They need more people to dispel the lies that the enemy planted in their minds and their hearts. Feel free to add me, I may start doing videos addressing some of these topics on rumble because I think God wants to bring healing to the science community. I have a testimony of my husband being an ex atheist turned believer so it is possible. Anyway have a blessed night.

dlamberth said:

I can answer that. As I've said many times over, for myself, it's what the Earth itSelf as God created it and what it's now showing us that I trust way more than the creation story of an ancient middle-eastern nomadic tribe of desert dwellers.

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Okay.

Yttrium said:

Yes, it takes faith to believe in scientific theories. By definition, scientific theories have not been proven to be true. But you're presenting a false dichotomy. It's not just a case of believing in one or the other. You can consider something to be likely without firmly believing in it. You seem to assume that if someone doesn't believe in one thing, they have to believe in another, and that's not the case. It's quite possible and common for people to remain uncommitted. To say that don't know for sure. To think that something may be more likely than other things, but that could change with further evidence.

I consider the Theory of Evolution to be the most likely explanation for the diversity of species today. But if the ToE got disproved tomorrow, I'd be overjoyed. If something in science turns out to be wrong, it needs to be fixed. As new evidence turns up, any scientific theory can be modified or replaced if necessary.

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I was agnostic I’m aware there is a possibility for people to be unsure or uncommitted. I’m talking more to the people who claim to be skeptics and have no preexisting opinion or belief but in all actuality have made up their minds and are just identifying as skeptics when they’ve already taken a position. Also the people who claim to be Christian but if you don’t have faith in the Bible and you choose belief in science over your own faith it’s just not acceptable to claim to be a Christian at that point. But nonetheless take everything that the scientific community presents with a grain of salt. It was actually studying astronomy that led me to believe in God the fact that so many celestial objects on a macroscopic scale were so highly organized made me doubt random probability. I don’t think evolution is sound at all or even the most likely explanation for how life formed on earth because it does not make sense. You can’t make something out of nothing and it’s not reasonable for life to form sporadically on its own via abiogenesis. In my view point atleast it sounds ridiculous but to other people if they want to consider that the most plausible reasoning for life on earth they have to make that judgement and assessment for themselves.

Yttrium said:

Yes, it takes faith to believe in scientific theories. By definition, scientific theories have not been proven to be true. But you're presenting a false dichotomy. It's not just a case of believing in one or the other. You can consider something to be likely without firmly believing in it. You seem to assume that if someone doesn't believe in one thing, they have to believe in another, and that's not the case. It's quite possible and common for people to remain uncommitted. To say that don't know for sure. To think that something may be more likely than other things, but that could change with further evidence.

I consider the Theory of Evolution to be the most likely explanation for the diversity of species today. But if the ToE got disproved tomorrow, I'd be overjoyed. If something in science turns out to be wrong, it needs to be fixed. As new evidence turns up, any scientific theory can be modified or replaced if necessary.

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I agree science is always evolving so we have to be willing to change our thinking as the evidence changes. However don’t be naive of people within the scientific community having an agenda and tampering with the science that’s all I’m going to say. Don’t trust every idea purported by science, question everything.

Yttrium said:

Yes, it takes faith to believe in scientific theories. By definition, scientific theories have not been proven to be true. But you're presenting a false dichotomy. It's not just a case of believing in one or the other. You can consider something to be likely without firmly believing in it. You seem to assume that if someone doesn't believe in one thing, they have to believe in another, and that's not the case. It's quite possible and common for people to remain uncommitted. To say that don't know for sure. To think that something may be more likely than other things, but that could change with further evidence.

I consider the Theory of Evolution to be the most likely explanation for the diversity of species today. But if the ToE got disproved tomorrow, I'd be overjoyed. If something in science turns out to be wrong, it needs to be fixed. As new evidence turns up, any scientific theory can be modified or replaced if necessary.

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Good luck on your search though I hope you find Christ like I did brother(or sister) would love to see it.