A Ukraine Peace Plan

Love365 said:

Part of why the war started,
they tried to ban the Russian language.

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Who did, NATO/the West? (You know, the ones accused of starting a proxy war with Russia.)

Love365 said:

Ukraine tried to ban the Russian language.

Its hard to say for sure who started the war.
But it doesn’t really matter at this point.
We need peace talks.

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Seems unlikely given the number of Russian speakers in Ukraine, including the President of Ukraine who's first language is Russian.

Love365 said:

You want him to give up his land bridge to Crimea?

Are you going to offer him anything in return for that?

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Eighty five years ago I daresay you would have been defending Hitler, pointing out that the people of the Sudetenland were Germans and those other nasty Chezchs were restricting their freedoms.
We would all wish for peace, but not at the price you demand.

Love365 said:

You want him to give up his land bridge to Crimea?

Are you going to offer him anything in return for that?

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The only land bridge to Crimea is on Ukrainian territory. It is not Putin's to have. As for the other water bridge to Russia -- blow it up. (It wouldn't shock me if that happens this year.)

Love365 said:

Ukraine tried to ban the Russian language.

Its hard to say for sure who started the war.
But it doesn’t really matter at this point.
We need peace talks.

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It’s not hard. It’s Russia. Russia started the war.

Love365 said:

What if Russia asked for something small?

Like a Russian painting being returned to Russia?

Or those famous eggs being returned to Russia?

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I think Russia has looted enough artifacts and art since invading to get out now.

Love365 said:

No.

I only speak English.

But I support teaching languages.

The younger you are,
the easier it is to learn new languages.

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I will soon be 50. I know Ukrainian and Russian perfectly well, I understand Church Slavonic and am now studying English.

Language is not a problem at all. The problem starts when people are forced to do something they don't want to do. It’s one thing to say that if you learn the language, you will have a job with a high salary, but another thing is that if you don’t learn the language, then we will deprive you of civil rights and will hate you.

It's all about how they motivate, and not whether they are difficult to study or not. If I had been given a good job and had to learn English, I would have learned it long ago. And Slavic languages are even easier for Slavs to learn. Experience has shown that in Crimea during the time of Ukraine, those who wanted to occupy the positions of judge, prosecutor, lawyer, notary and other government positions learned the Ukrainian language in 6 months in order to pass the competition.

A Russian person can learn Ukrainian in 6 months! Was this a problem? The problem is when they force you, they are rude, they insult you, they hate you and you cannot protect yourself from all this.

In the USSR, since the time of Stalin, speakers of the Ukrainian language have been subjected to humiliation and insults. In response, Western Ukraine, unaccustomed to such an attitude, began to insult native Russian speakers. More than 1 million Ukrainians live in Russia and there are no Ukrainian schools at all, but before the war there were Russian schools in Ukraine. Both sides are guilty of demeaning each other's cultural identities. Each is proud of his own and humiliates the other. Russia began during the time of Stalin, Western Ukraine responded in a mirror way and since then it cannot stop.

It's the same with Orthodoxy. Until the 17th century, Western Ukraine was Orthodox. But in the 17th century, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which included Ukraine and Belarus, began to discriminate against the population on religious grounds. Because of this, a civil war began, which led to the fact that most of Ukraine was separated from Poland and was annexed by the Muscovite kingdom (which, after the annexation of Ukraine, began to be called Russia). In the remaining territory of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth there were such repressions that within 100 years the Orthodox Christians almost completely converted to Greek Catholicism.

Stalin decided to restore historical justice and in the 1940s began brutal repressions against Greek Catholics. As a result of this, Greek Catholics went underground and even those who wanted to be Orthodox before Stalin converted to Greek Catholicism at the first opportunity, so as not to be complicit in Stalin’s repressions.

And now activists of the national-patriotic type cannot calm down and forget Stalin, but continue to mirror this on a religious plane, taking revenge for language and religion.

Eastern Ukraine (Orthodox and loyal to the Russian language) finds itself between two fires: the Russian army is killing them from the east, and the national patriots of Western Ukraine hate them from within. Those who can flee to EU countries. But the government is increasingly installing a new Iron Curtain or Berlin Wall. Men from 18 to 60 found themselves in such a trap.

If Putin had stopped the war, none of this would have happened. But even during the war it would be easier if national patriots and those who mobilize ukrainians for war would moderate their ardor. Because people can't stand it anymore. Today one man injured another man by a knife who wanted to invite another person into the army (before this there were many cases of recruiters beating random passers-by on the streets who did not want to enroll in the army).

If Ukrainians knew this:
1) there will definitely be a war;
2) that they will be caught on the streets like dogs;
then they would have gone abroad even before the war. This confirms that for 90% of Ukrainians language is secondary.

Now the parliamentary and presidential elections have been cancelled, and words are increasingly being heard that Ukrainians need to establish a dictatorship. Can you imagine how Ukrainians feel deceived? They promised democracy, human rights and a visa-free regime, but they want to give dictatorship, lawlessness and the largest prison in the world (as Elon Musk seems to have put it)? Ukrainians did not receive anything at all that motivates them to live in Ukraine.

Many Ukrainians say this is a hidden secret genocide. Our Western partners did not provide us with weapons (they promised F-16s for three years, we need at least 300, and Britain prepared 10) and did not help us make peace with Russia. Russia is armed to the teeth with missiles and bombs, and Western generals only advise us to mobilize people, take people into the field, and Russia will kill these weakly armed people with these missiles and bombs.

The Ukrainians are armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle and grenades and are sitting in earthen dugouts. And Russia drops bombs on them from aircraft weighing 0.5-1 tons, which leave a crater like a 3-story building.

This is no longer a war, but the extermination of the male population of Ukraine.

From the above, any intelligent person can conclude for himself whether Ukrainians want peace negotiations.