Pence tells Fox News he ‘cannot in good conscience’ endorse Trump

essentialsaltes · Mar 15, 2024

“Donald Trump is pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years. That’s why I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump in this campaign,” Pence said on Fox News, in a stunning repudiation of his former running mate.

“As I have watched his candidacy unfold, I’ve seen him walking away from our commitment to confronting the national debt. I’ve seen him starting to shy away from a commitment to the sanctity of human life. And this last week, his reversal on getting tough on China and supporting our administration’s efforts to force a sale of ByteDance’s TikTok,” he added.

wing2000 · Mar 15, 2024

"...in good conscience". That won't register in MAGA land.

Vambram · Mar 15, 2024

Very Very small percentage of Republicans really care what Mike Pence says. Even though Pence did raise a couple of good points, he should understand that, if conservatives, libertarians, and independents want something better than Joe Biden, then Donald Trump is really the only feasible, electable choice left at this time.

wing2000 · Mar 15, 2024

Vambram said:
Very Very small percentage of Republicans really care what Mike Pence says. Even though Pence did raise a couple of good points, he should understand that, if conservatives, libertarians, and independents want something better than Joe Biden, then Donald Trump is really the only feasible, electable choice left at this time.

Republican voters had a choice in the primary, as they did in 2016 & 2020. Saying Trump is the only "electable choice left at this time" is a cop out.

BCP1928 · Mar 15, 2024

Vambram said:
Very Very small percentage of Republicans really care what Mike Pence says. Even though Pence did raise a couple of good points, he should understand that, if conservatives, libertarians, and independents want something better than Joe Biden, then Donald Trump is really the only feasible, electable choice left at this time.

How depressing.

Vambram · Mar 15, 2024

wing2000 said:
Republican voters had a choice in the primary, as they did in 2016 & 2020. Saying Trump is the only "electable choice left at this time" is a cop out.

Not really.
Pence and others had their chances. He failed to get anything more than single digits percentage support among GOP voters.

Fantine · Mar 15, 2024

He has probably given up politics to cash in by becoming a lobbyist, as most former legislators seem to do.

So he can say what he wants. Actually he has apparently become a distinguished fellow for the Heritage Foundation and has contracts with Simon and Schuster for autobiographies.

wing2000 · Mar 15, 2024

Vambram said:
Not really.
Pence and others had their chances. He failed to get anything more than single digits percentage support among GOP voters.

Yea, Pence was too conscientious for the Republican primary voter.

GoldenBoy89 · Mar 15, 2024

Vambram said:
Very Very small percentage of Republicans really care what Mike Pence says. Even though Pence did raise a couple of good points, he should understand that, if conservatives, libertarians, and independents want something better than Joe Biden, then Donald Trump is really the only feasible, electable choice left at this time.

A guy who won one single election against a terrible opponent, almost 8 years ago… is hardly the definition of electable.

essentialsaltes · Mar 15, 2024

wing2000 said:
Yea, Pence was too conscientious for the Republican primary voter.

They're voting for a president, not a pastor. (so I'm told)

Elliewaves · Mar 15, 2024

I'm actually surprised about this one.

DaisyDay · Mar 15, 2024

Vambram said:
Very Very small percentage of Republicans really care what Mike Pence says. Even though Pence did raise a couple of good points, he should understand that, if conservatives, libertarians, and independents want something better than Joe Biden, then Donald Trump is really the only feasible, electable choice left at this time.

Except, Trump very much is not better.

Vylo · Mar 15, 2024

Vambram said:
Very Very small percentage of Republicans really care what Mike Pence says. Even though Pence did raise a couple of good points, he should understand that, if conservatives, libertarians, and independents want something better than Joe Biden, then Donald Trump is really the only feasible, electable choice left at this time.

If you want something better than Biden, you would have to look for a different party than the GOP currently.

Vambram · Mar 15, 2024

Vylo said:
If you want something better than Biden, you would have to look for a different party than the GOP currently.

I disagree.

Vylo · Mar 15, 2024

Vambram said:
I disagree.

I mean, Biden didn't wantonly kill Americans with disinformation, try to stage a coup, sell state secrets to enemies, put unqualified family members into official positions and give them security clearances they shouldn't have, suck up to a laundry list of dictators, and so on. The bar to at least be nearly on par with Biden should be relatively low, yet the GOP seems to be subterranean since Trump entered their political sphere.

Vambram · Mar 15, 2024

In my opinion, that's some very strong gaslighting.

JustOneWay · Mar 16, 2024

essentialsaltes said:
“Donald Trump is pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years. That’s why I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump in this campaign,” Pence said on Fox News, in a stunning repudiation of his former running mate.

“As I have watched his candidacy unfold, I’ve seen him walking away from our commitment to confronting the national debt. I’ve seen him starting to shy away from a commitment to the sanctity of human life. And this last week, his reversal on getting tough on China and supporting our administration’s efforts to force a sale of ByteDance’s TikTok,” he added.

I wonder why he did not bring up the gallows thing?

essentialsaltes · Mar 16, 2024

JustOneWay said:
I wonder why he did not bring up the gallows thing?

To his credit, he's framing this about the threat Trump poses to the nation and to religious, conservative values, not to him personally.

JustOneWay · Mar 16, 2024

essentialsaltes said:
To his credit, he's framing this about the threat Trump poses to the nation and to religious, conservative values, not to him personally.

Nobody except mother is listening.

If he can't tell people specifically why Trump is a threat based on what Pence has witnessed, he won't make any difference.

Akita Suggagaki · Mar 16, 2024

He may not publicly "endorse" Trump but he will probably vote for him. Republicans are such fools. They had so many possible candidates. Of course the Dems are equally foolish. Both parties have done a disservice to the American people. This is tragic.

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