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Jimmy Fallon is making fun of Biden in his opening monologue.
As has Colbert. And Jon Stewart's first night back was nothing more than him highlighting Biden's weaknesses. He took some heavy hits from some left wing commentators about it. Which only shows that they they don't get it. If there are genuine concerns about anybody running for office then the problems need to be discussed. Air them in public. Discuss them. Shine a light on them. It's difficult to make reasonable political arguments if you have your butt in the air and your head in the sand.

Was Trump made fun of? Is he being made fun of? You bet. Because his faults are legion. But for the jibes and the digs at him to carry any weight then whoever is jibing and digging must be prepared to share that load when it's applicable.
 
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As has Colbert. And Jon Stewart's first night back was nothing more than him highlighting Biden's weaknesses. He took some heavy hits from some left wing commentators about it. Which only shows that they they don't get it. If there are genuine concerns about anybody running for office then the problems need to be discussed. Air them in public. Discuss them. Shine a light on them. It's difficult to make reasonable political arguments if you have your butt in the air and your head in the sand.

Was Trump made fun of? Is he being made fun of? You bet. Because his faults are legion. But for the jibes and the digs at him to carry any weight then whoever is jibing and digging must be prepared to share that load when it's applicable.
People who do comedy should worry about being funny. They got pretty lopsided about who they made fun of the last few years but Trump was an easy target. Biden is too though. Seems he’s no longer off limits.
 
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People who do comedy should worry about being funny. They got pretty lopsided about who they made fun of the last few years but Trump was an easy target. Biden is too though. Seems he’s no longer off limits.
Fallon isn't a comedian. He's just a late night show host who interviews people with films to promote. He isn't funny and leaves something to be desired as an a interviewer. Not exactly unwatchable. But I don't watch him.

Colbert is a comedian. And he is funny (did stand up and improv for many years). He also commentates on political matters in what might be considered an amusing way. And interviews people with films to promote. I watch him for the comedy.

Stewart is a savvy political commentator who uses humour to drive home his points. They give them an edge. I listen to most of what he does. Exceptionally talented guy.
 
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Parody?!? You're the parody!
We really need another icon for friendly other than that twee little heart. Hit someone with that and the rainbow and you could be sending out all sorts of signals that could be misinterpreted.
 
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Fallon isn't a comedian. He's just a late night show host who interviews people with films to promote. He isn't funny and leaves something to be desired as an a interviewer. Not exactly unwatchable. But I don't watch him.

Colbert is a comedian. And he is funny (did stand up and improv for many years). He also commentates on political matters in what might be considered an amusing way. And interviews people with films to promote. I watch him for the comedy.

Stewart is a savvy political commentator who uses humour to drive home his points. They give them an edge. I listen to most of what he does. Exceptionally talented guy.
You don’t remember Fallon on SNL?
 
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You don’t remember Fallon on SNL?
We don't get it down here. Unless it's buried deep in some entertainment channel I might have and on in the early hours. I've seen quite a few episodes on Youtube. But not a big fan.

I do realise that Myers was a regular - forgot to mention him as a late night show host. He's smart. Good interviewer. Used to watch him occasionally. But the comedy...dire most of the time. He needs better writers. Always seems forced. The audience must be juiced up before it starts. They laugh at anything.

Maybe I'm hard to please.
 
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We don't get it down here. Unless it's buried deep in some entertainment channel I might have and on in the early hours. I've seen quite a few episodes on Youtube. But not a big fan.

I do realise that Myers was a regular - forgot to mention him as a late night show host. He's smart. Good interviewer. Used to watch him occasionally. But the comedy...dire most of the time. He needs better writers. Always seems forced. The audience must be juiced up before it starts. They laugh at anything.

Maybe I'm hard to please.
I really liked Fallon’s bit where he said you can sing any 80s song to the tune of Can’t Touch This and he demonstrated. I didn’t know Myers had a talk show.
 
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Fallon isn't a comedian. He's just a late night show host who interviews people with films to promote. He isn't funny and leaves something to be desired as an a interviewer. Not exactly unwatchable. But I don't watch him.

Colbert is a comedian. And he is funny (did stand up and improv for many years). He also commentates on political matters in what might be considered an amusing way. And interviews people with films to promote. I watch him for the comedy.

Stewart is a savvy political commentator who uses humour to drive home his points. They give them an edge. I listen to most of what he does. Exceptionally talented guy.
Trevor NOah is also exceptionally talented. Better than anyone, he got the tone and cadence of Trump spot on.
 
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Fallon isn't a comedian. He's just a late night show host who interviews people with films to promote. He isn't funny and leaves something to be desired as an a interviewer. Not exactly unwatchable. But I don't watch him.

Colbert is a comedian. And he is funny (did stand up and improv for many years). He also commentates on political matters in what might be considered an amusing way. And interviews people with films to promote. I watch him for the comedy.

Stewart is a savvy political commentator who uses humour to drive home his points. They give them an edge. I listen to most of what he does. Exceptionally talented guy.
 
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On Monday, one of Trump’s former Mar-a-Lago employees, Brian Butler, anonymously referred to in court documents as “Trump Employee 5,” confessed that he had been part of an orchestrated move to transport the documents out of Mar-a-Lago and to Bedminster, New Jersey, ahead of a meeting between Trump and the Justice Department in June 2022—two months before the FBI raid at the Florida estate.
"A couple of weeks ago, Judge Cannon says she’s going to release the names of the witnesses. You go from highs and lows in this,” Butler said.

Witnesses in Trump documents case can remain private, judge rules

WASHINGTON, April 9 (Reuters) - A federal judge decided on Tuesday to allow the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald Trump for allegedly mishandling classified documents to shield the identities of possible witnesses in the case for now.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon agreed to reconsider a prior ruling that prosecutors argued would have revealed the names of certain witnesses who spoke to investigators, and subjected them to intimidation and harassment from Trump and his supporters.

[But hey, at least her terrible initial ruling got Butler to openly confess to the public!]
 
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Witnesses in Trump documents case can remain private, judge rules

WASHINGTON, April 9 (Reuters) - A federal judge decided on Tuesday to allow the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald Trump for allegedly mishandling classified documents to shield the identities of possible witnesses in the case for now.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon agreed to reconsider a prior ruling that prosecutors argued would have revealed the names of certain witnesses who spoke to investigators, and subjected them to intimidation and harassment from Trump and his supporters.

[But hey, at least her terrible initial ruling got Butler to openly confess to the public!]

Amendment VI​

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
 
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Amendment VI​

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
My read is that Trump and his team know who the witnesses are, they just won't be identified in public filings.
 
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My read is that Trump and his team know who the witnesses are, they just won't be identified in public filings.
Then why, as per the article, would the release supposedly subject the witnesses to harassment from Trump?
 
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Then why, as per the article, would the release supposedly subject the witnesses to harassment from Trump?

It is possible that while the witnesses identities have been given to Trump's lawyers, they are not allowed to pass that information onto Donald. More likely, the judge has ordered Trump not to speak to anyone except his lawyers about who the witnesses are, and specific and severe punishments were threatened/promised for anyone who divulges the identity of a witness to a person not authorized to know.
 
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...to be confronted with the witnesses against him...

He will be. What gave you the idea that that wouldn't happen? It's idiotic to suggest that the identity of the witnesses will not be available to the prosecution.
 
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Then why, as per the article, would the release supposedly subject the witnesses to harassment from Trump?
I don't think they're worried so much about harassment from Trump, but more from Trump's followers. Trump can be subject to a gag order and penalized if he breaks that gag order; but if the witness information is publicly available, Trump's ardent followers might threaten them or try to intimidate them.

-- A2SG, after all, they've done it before.....
 
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Amendment VI​

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

That's a confrontation with witnesses *AT TRIAL*. (You know, that thing Trump keeps making efforts to delay.)
 
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