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New House Report on J6 Lays Out Damning Details of How Nancy Pelosi Failed America During Capitol Riots

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There is not only exonerating evidence that shows decisively that Donald Trump had nothing to do with inciting a pre-planned attack on the Capitol, but the report raises extremely serious questions about J6 security failures, including the potential complicity of former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who showed willful neglect to authorize National Guard troops.
 

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There is not only exonerating evidence that shows decisively that Donald Trump had nothing to do with inciting a pre-planned attack on the Capitol, but the report raises extremely serious questions about J6 security failures, including the potential complicity of former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who showed willful neglect to authorize National Guard troops.
Not only did Nancy and others involved fail to take responsibility for the security failures, but they used taxpayer money to pin the blame on others.
 
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False. As Speaker of the House, Pelosi does not direct the National Guard. Further, as the Capitol came under attack, she and the Senate Majority leader called for military assistance, including the National Guard.
 
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False. As Speaker of the House, Pelosi does not direct the National Guard. Further, as the Capitol came under attack, she and the Senate Majority leader called for military assistance, including the National Guard.
My statement was true. The article goes on:

"Speaker Pelosi’s failure to authorize National Guard troops during the attack on the Congress, despite repeated requests from former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund through her House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving, led to prolonged disruption of the official election challenges, which were launched by Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) and sustained by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) at 1:12 p.m."
 
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There is not only exonerating evidence that shows decisively that Donald Trump had nothing to do with inciting a pre-planned attack on the Capitol, but the report raises extremely serious questions about J6 security failures, including the potential complicity of former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who showed willful neglect to authorize National Guard troops.
But why would Pelosi need to authorize the National Guard for a peaceful tour group??
 
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Speaker Pelosi’s failure to authorize National Guard troops
Only the State Governor or the President can activate the NG.
 
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Obviously the hyperpartisan House Committee, ignoring volumes of evidence that resulted in Colorado and several other states removing Trump from the ballot and grand juries indicating him based on those volumes of evidence, finding a paragraph or two which, if blasted on loud hyperbolic megaphones, was able to convince Trump loyalists he was innocent. ROFL.
 
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My statement was true. The article goes on:

"Speaker Pelosi’s failure to authorize National Guard troops during the attack on the Congress, despite repeated requests from former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund through her House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving, led to prolonged disruption of the official election challenges, which were launched by Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) and sustained by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) at 1:12 p.m."

So it is not only a false claim but a partisan one, since the Senate Majority Leader is equally responsible for the security of Congress, which was a Republican on 1/6 -- yet for some reason this partisan report only talks about Pelosi. Additionally, as has been stated (and you seem to agree with) no one in Congress, to include Pelosi, can "authorize" the National Guard, they can only make a request.

What is more, we know that the National Guard was requested on 1/6, when the attack started, yet Pres. Trump never authorized sending them (activated, if you prefer, as the two terms mean basically the same in this instance) -- instead, in a move of questionable validity -- it was VP Pence that ended up authorizing the National Guard.
 
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"Authorize," not "activate."
In this context can you tell me the distinction between the two? This thread has all the hallmarks of yet another anti Dem hit piece founded on a falsehood.
 
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So it is not only a false claim but a partisan one, since the Senate Majority Leader is equally responsible for the security of Congress, which was a Republican on 1/6 -- yet for some reason this partisan report only talks about Pelosi. Additionally, as has been stated (and you seem to agree with) no one in Congress, to include Pelosi, can "authorize" the National Guard, they can only make a request.

What is more, we know that the National Guard was requested on 1/6, when the attack started, yet Pres. Trump never authorized sending them (activated, if you prefer, as the two terms mean basically the same in this instance) -- instead, in a move of questionable validity -- it was VP Pence that ended up authorizing the National Guard.
Actually President Trump offered the National Guard before January 6th but Pelosi didn't want them.
 
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In this context can you tell me the distinction between the two? This thread has all the hallmarks of yet another anti Dem hit piece founded on a falsehood.
There's no falsehood, people wield power yet aren't the ones who do the authorizing. Democrats, for example, fully blame Trump for scuttling the Senate bill that would continue the invasion. Yet Trump currently does not hold any government office of any kind. The Sergeant at Arms formally reported to Pelosi. It's just more of the double standard.
 
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There's no falsehood, people wield power yet aren't the ones who do the authorizing.
So there's no distinction? Shouldn't you post as retraction?
 
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Actually President Trump offered the National Guard before January 6th but Pelosi didn't want them.
You’re privy to the communications that would allow you to make such an assertion?
 
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There's no falsehood, people wield power yet aren't the ones who do the authorizing. Democrats, for example, fully blame Trump for scuttling the Senate bill that would continue the invasion.
Trump fully credits himself for scuttling the bipartisan bill which gives the administration the funds and tools it needs. As you know, the border patrol union endorsed this bill.
Yet Trump currently does not hold any government office of any kind. The Sergeant at Arms formally reported to Pelosi.
Trump controls the Republican Party at this point.
It's just more of the double standard.
Yeah, from your side. Note that full blame is put on Pelosi while McConnell isn't ever blamed even where their responsibility overlapped. What's with that?

Actually President Trump offered the National Guard before January 6th but Pelosi didn't want them.
Why didn't he just authorize? He hardly needed her permission. Was Pelosi fully briefed on the planned insurrection like Donald was?
 
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Obviously the hyperpartisan House Committee, ignoring volumes of evidence that resulted in Colorado and several other states removing Trump from the ballot and grand juries indicating him based on those volumes of evidence, finding a paragraph or two which, if blasted on loud hyperbolic megaphones, was able to convince Trump loyalists he was innocent. ROFL.
Yes, hyperpartisan is the key word here. It isn't mentioned, but were there any Democrats or Independents allowed any part on this sub-committee to point blame at Democrats?

I also don't understand the accusation of "collusion" between the DOJ and DA Fani Willis. Since when is it considered improper for law agencies to exchange information?
 
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Yes, hyperpartisan is the key word here. It isn't mentioned, but were there any Democrats or Independents allowed any part on this sub-committee to point blame at Democrats?

I also don't understand the accusation of "collusion" between the DOJ and DA Fani Willis. Since when is it considered improper for law agencies to exchange information?
Since it involves a politician of the party favoured by that person. All other facts are thrown into the bin at that point and don't matter.
 
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