For a Dress up day, mind you...

rambot · Mar 7, 2024

A teacher had to resign for wearing a dress.
https://news.yahoo.com/teacher-resigns-viral-libs-tiktok-120233672.html?guccounter=1https://news.yahoo.com/teacher-resigns-viral-libs-tiktok-120233672.html?guccounter=1

In my mind this would be akin to being harrassed for him dressing up as a woman for Halloween.

So...does he deserve it?

eleos1954 · Mar 8, 2024

rambot said:
A teacher had to resign for wearing a dress.
https://news.yahoo.com/teacher-resigns-viral-libs-tiktok-120233672.html?guccounter=1https://news.yahoo.com/teacher-resigns-viral-libs-tiktok-120233672.html?guccounter=1

In my mind this would be akin to being harrassed for him dressing up as a woman for Halloween.

So...does he deserve it?

The article says ... A Texas teacher has chosen to resign ... he wasn't forced to resign

rambot · Mar 8, 2024

eleos1954 said:
The article says ... A Texas teacher has chosen to resign ... he wasn't forced to resign

I didn't write he was forced to resign.

But you didn't answer the question I asked:

Did he deserve the mistreatment? Did he deserve the call ins and harrassment?

Always in His Presence · Mar 8, 2024

rambot said:
A teacher had to resign for wearing a dress.
https://news.yahoo.com/teacher-resigns-viral-libs-tiktok-120233672.html?guccounter=1https://news.yahoo.com/teacher-resigns-viral-libs-tiktok-120233672.html?guccounter=1

In my mind this would be akin to being harrassed for him dressing up as a woman for Halloween.

So...does he deserve it?

According to your link - it was not "Dress up Day" - it was Spirit Day at the high school - Those days are when you wear your school jackets or colors, athletes wear their jersey's. Male teachers wear the school color, not a bra and panties. It is just one more demonstration of the perversion of traditions and those who pervert it are suddenly the 'victims".

Always in His Presence · Mar 8, 2024

rambot said:
A teacher had to resign for wearing a dress.

rambot said:
I didn't write he was forced to resign.

eleos1954 · Mar 8, 2024

rambot said:
I didn't write he was forced to resign.

But you didn't answer the question I asked:

Did he deserve the mistreatment? Did he deserve the call ins and harassment?

eleos1954 said:
The article says ... A Texas teacher has chosen to resign ... he wasn't forced to resign

The video states he decided to leave because of the negativity from outside of the district ... don't say exactly what that "negativity" was or where exactly it came from. Do we know?

rambot · Mar 8, 2024

hislegacy

Yes, he felt compelled to resign; he had to resign.

Again, I didn't say an outside for compelled him to resign. You don't need to obfuscate; answer the question. It's a super simple one.

The video states he decided to leave because of the negativity from outside of the district ... don't say exactly what that "negativity" was or where exactly it came from. Do we know?

Did you not read the article?

Simple question folks:
Should a male teacher who dresses as a female for a school spirit day, receive harrassment from anyone to the point where he feels it is best to leave their place of employment?

Always in His Presence · Mar 8, 2024

rambot said:
hislegacy

Yes, he felt compelled to resign; he had to resign.

Again, I didn't say an outside for compelled him to resign. You don't need to obfuscate; answer the question. It's a super simple one.

Again - deep breath - I never said anything about an outside call for him to resign - I quoted you with no editorial. I am not obfuscating anything. Your zeal has once again mixed you up, thinking I am another poster - Please stop - it is making one of us look bad - and it is not me.

rambot said:
Did you not read the article?

How do you think I quoted from it?

rambot said:
Simple question folks:
Should a male teacher who dresses as a female for a school spirit day, receive harrassment from anyone to the point where he feels it is best to leave their place of employment?

Thank for correcting yourself - not dress up day - School Spirit Day.

Here is my reply.

If the Schools colors are pink and the mascot is a man in a dress - then no
If the school colors are not pink and the mascot is not a man in address them criticism is warranted.
Free speech and al.

Always in His Presence · Mar 8, 2024

Hey! I am open to correction.

Here is the School Logo

And here is the teacher in question

Please explain how his dress is possibly connected to the school theme?

As I stated - this is another example of the perversion of a public image and when called out for perverting it - they instantly become a victim.

rambot · Mar 8, 2024

hislegacy said:
Hey! I am open to correction.

Here is the School Logo

View attachment 343785

And here is the teacher in question

View attachment 343786

Please explain how his dress is possibly connected to the school theme?

As I stated - this is another example of the perversion of a public image and when called out for perverting it - they instantly become a victim.

This man is not transgender. This man is not a drag queen.

He's a dude who dressed up and wore a dress.

It wasn't an identity. It wasn't a statement. His students dared him and they thought it was hilarious. Are you aware that you can dress up like things and not feel tied to it in any way? I once dressed up as Gulliver but didn't identify that way. Heck, I dressed up as a girl hobo for one halloween.

Are people all truly THAT triggered by this? A person just wearing clothes for fun is now enough to get the jimmies rustled?
Sad

Always in His Presence · Mar 9, 2024

rambot said:
It wasn't an identity. It wasn't a statement.

Got proof? That is not in the link in the OP.

rambot said:
His students dared him and they thought it was hilarious.

Got proof? That is not in the link in the OP.

rambot said:
Are you aware that you can dress up like things and not feel tied to it in any way? I once dressed up as Gulliver but didn't identify that way. Heck, I dressed up as a girl hobo for one halloween.

It was NOT Halloween - it was Spirit Day - didn't we already address this? repeating it does not reduce the lack of legitimacy of the statement.

The man chose to do something in public -
The video of him doing the action in public was put on social media
Social media and the public responded with their opposition to the action

That is called freedom of speech.

It's the same as the posters come on here and consistently voice their opinions to Christians and Christianity. That is their freedom of speech. Might not agree with it - but neither instance is a 'trigger'.

Additionally, the much beloved teacher CHOSE to resign.

Always in His Presence · Mar 9, 2024

Is it a one time thing? Oh, look:

Tell me again how it is a one time thing?

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Always in His Presence · Mar 9, 2024

nuff said? They say a picture is worth 1,000 words...

rambot · Mar 9, 2024

hislegacy said:
Got proof? That is not in the link in the OP.

Got proof? That is not in the link in the OP.

An online petition calling for Tjachyadi to be reinstated, which amassed more than 20,500 signatures, argued that he did not “deserve to be defamed and lose his job” over the incident, adding that “many students in his class encouraged him to wear the dress in the first place.”

hislegacy said:
It was NOT Halloween - it was Spirit Day - didn't we already address this? repeating it does not reduce the lack of legitimacy of the statement.

It shouldn't actually matter whether it's halloween or spirit day or anything.

hislegacy said:
The man chose to do something in public -
The video of him doing the action in public was put on social media
Social media and the public responded with their opposition to the action

Sure. Some people compained about some thing or othere. But it's clear the vast majority of people supported the teacher.

hislegacy said:
That is called freedom of speech.

Yup. Kvetching is free speech. I don't think he should have stepped down. I think the community AND the school should have ignored the whiners. Frankly, I think everyone should. All they do is spout out their own nonsense fears that are meaningless.

hislegacy said:
It's the same as the posters come on here and consistently voice their opinions to Christians and Christianity. That is their freedom of speech. Might not agree with it - but neither instance is a 'trigger'.

Additionally, the much beloved teacher CHOSE to resign.

Yes. If your pictures are legitimate and not AI and are actually him (seriously doubt the one of "him" from the back is him but the others seem likely and the other masked options ain't really that impressive; AND he's wearing colourful flowers on his head? Yeah.....what a unforgiveable action that is.), perhaps it is a habit he enjoys.

He probably didn't want this habit to come out because members of the community will shame him.

What happenned last time?
Alabama mayor's apparent suicide underscores the dangers of outing

And then the harassers step back and say "well they had mental health issues". Yes, they have mental health issues because of how religious bigots choose to label and hate them not because of a persona deficiency.

I love seeing the pictures of him wearing a dress at school and the students behaving in a really nice and simple way: Not caring. Because ultimately, him wearing a dress has no impact on them; on their life; on their psyche; on their development; on their well being; on their sexualization; on their soul.

Nithavela · Mar 9, 2024

rambot said:
So...does he deserve it?

Obviously. He triggered the hate machine, so he needs to be destroyed.

Nithavela · Mar 9, 2024

hislegacy said:
Hey! I am open to correction.

Here is the School Logo

View attachment 343785

That looks sillier than a man in a pink dress.

LovebirdsFlying · Apr 1, 2024

In my high school English class, a group of students in the class who outright adored our male teacher bought him a gag gift toward the end of the year. It was a bra, size 52DD. Very large, very cumbersome. Looked almost like a pony's harness. They filled it with messages of appreciation written across the cups. He laughed, put that bra on over his shirt, and proudly wore it the rest of the day.

If he had been forced to resign over it, we would have been heartbroken. He was a great teacher. As a writer now, I still remember many of the things he taught us about analyzing text in advertising, picking up subtleties in a story, etc.

That was the 1980's. Even earlier, in the 1970's, a group of male teachers at my elementary school dressed in ridiculous looking drag for a comedy skit put on during an assembly. Should any of these teachers have been forced out the door for making their students laugh? Would they nowadays? Or would their actions even be considered some kind of phobic?

Niels · Apr 7, 2024

rambot said:
Simple question folks:
Should a male teacher who dresses as a female for a school spirit day, receive harrassment from anyone to the point where he feels it is best to leave their place of employment?

No. It should be unacceptable to harass students or teachers. If he violated the school dress code, then he should be spoken to privately by the school administration, but not subject to harassment. If parents don't like the dress code, then they may try to have that changed, but don't harass the teacher.

rjs330 · Apr 8, 2024

rambot said:
This man is not transgender. This man is not a drag queen.

He's a dude who dressed up and wore a dress.

It wasn't an identity. It wasn't a statement. His students dared him and they thought it was hilarious. Are you aware that you can dress up like things and not feel tied to it in any way? I once dressed up as Gulliver but didn't identify that way. Heck, I dressed up as a girl hobo for one halloween.

Are people all truly THAT triggered by this? A person just wearing clothes for fun is now enough to get the jimmies rustled?
Sad

In my mind, today that's a very unwise thing to do. His wearing a dress didn't have anything to do with Spirit day as it wasn't the school colors, it also wasn't Halloween. So yes I do believe he deserves to be criticized for his lack of wisdom. I mean he dressed in drag even if he's not a drag at queen. He was just asking to be criticized. It was highly inappropriate. If it was Halloween and such and all the teachers were dressing in costum s I think this could be easily dismissed. I would dismiss it.

You just can't do that today. Dress in drag and just think everyone is going to just go along with it. Just another example of how allowing the drag or gender nonsense in schools is affecting everyone.

The fact that he resigned was on him. He could have apologized and said it was poor judgement and moved on.

rjs330 · Apr 8, 2024

rambot said:
love seeing the pictures of him wearing a dress at school and the students behaving in a really nice and simple way: Not caring. Because ultimately, him wearing a dress has no impact on them; on their life; on their psyche; on their development; on their well being; on their sexualization; on their soul.

That's absolutely a falsehood. You of all people know for a fact that adults and teachers have great influence upon the kids. That's exactly why you want this no sense to be taught in school. Sexualizing kids is the goal. Influencing the children is the goal. Indoctrinating kids who are easily influenced by this stuff is the goal. These kids kinda haven't fully developed and are not mature enough to handle all the issues involved.

But you know this. Maturity is what is needed by the heart teachers, not immaturity and throwing all their fetishes on table in front of the kids.

For a Dress up day, mind you...

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