Classes in some states may soon watch a fetal development video from a Pro-Life group

Vambram · Feb 25, 2024

Sex ed classes in some states may soon watch a fetal development video from an anti-abortion group

An animated fetus that develops over the course of a three-minute video has become a new front in state-level abortion politics.

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What are y'alls thoughts and opinions about this?

2PhiloVoid · Feb 25, 2024

Vambram said:
Sex ed classes in some states may soon watch a fetal development video from an anti-abortion group

An animated fetus that develops over the course of a three-minute video has become a new front in state-level abortion politics.

apnews.com

What are y'alls thoughts and opinions about this?

Wow. Did schools stop showing videos about fetal development at some point? 'Cuz they had those in 8th grade Sex-Ed science when I was a kid, and that was back in the 1980s. And what's more, it didn't have to be presented by a pro-life group in order to be shown.

Of course, on the other hand, it'd be kind of odd to have a fetal development video presented by an abortion advocacy group. I guess their video would be shorter ..............................

Fantine · Feb 25, 2024

Shortly after our state banned abortion, the governor terminated Medicaid for new mothers after 60 days--even though the federal government would cover one year.

So yeah, show the film--alongside a film showing the results of conservative limited government's policies on new mothers and children who grow up hungry, poor, homeless, etc. If they're so pro-life they need to be educated about what that means.

A2SG · Feb 25, 2024

2PhiloVoid said:
Of course, on the other hand, it'd be kind of odd to have a fetal development video presented by an abortion advocacy group. I guess their video would be shorter ..............................

Very short, since there is no such thing as an "abortion advocacy" group.

No one advocates FOR abortions. Sure, some advocate for reproductive rights (the right to choose, which includes not having an abortion), and some advocate for the availability of abortions, especially when medically necessary. But no one, not a single person or group, specifically advocates any woman to have an abortion.

That's a private medical decision, and is only appropriately discussed between a pregnant woman and her medical professionals....

-- A2SG, and it should stay that way....

2PhiloVoid · Feb 26, 2024

A2SG said:
Very short, since there is no such thing as an "abortion advocacy" group.

No one advocates FOR abortions. Sure, some advocate for reproductive rights (the right to choose, which includes not having an abortion), and some advocate for the availability of abortions, especially when medically necessary. But no one, not a single person or group, specifically advocates any woman to have an abortion.

That's a private medical decision, and is only appropriately discussed between a pregnant woman and her medical professionals....

-- A2SG, and it should stay that way....

I don't think I said anything about taking away the rights of women and their choices, did I? ... no, I don't think I did.

But I get what you're saying: you want to see me make a much finer analytic distinction in my choice of terms so that my language reflects the reality to which it refers (i.e. the referent).

Well, I understand. We all want that ...

Larniavc · Feb 26, 2024

Vambram said:
Sex ed classes in some states may soon watch a fetal development video from an anti-abortion group

An animated fetus that develops over the course of a three-minute video has become a new front in state-level abortion politics.

apnews.com

What are y'alls thoughts and opinions about this?

I think school should be for school. Not pushing a political agenda. This is just a way to groom children for hebephiles, probably I expect, no doubt.

Larniavc · Feb 26, 2024

Fantine said:
So yeah, show the film--alongside a film showing the results of conservative limited government's policies on new mothers and children who grow up hungry, poor, homeless, etc.

This is all part of the Christian Agenda. If tou forcr young women to bear children and remove state resources for them they have little choice but to turn to a church for charity.

Boom. Instant dependence and a new Soldier for Christ. This is all as intended.

2PhiloVoid · Feb 26, 2024

Larniavc said:
This is all part of the Christian Agenda. If tou forcr young women to bear children and remove state resources for them they have little choice but to turn to a church for charity.

Boom. Instant dependence and a new Soldier for Christ. This is all as intended.

It's a good thing I subscribe to Poe's Law Magazine.

Vambram · Feb 26, 2024

Larniavc said:
This is just a way to groom children for hebephiles, probably I expect, no doubt.

Your opinion couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

Vambram · Feb 26, 2024

Larniavc said:
This is all part of the Christian Agenda. If tou forcr young women to bear children and remove state resources for them they have little choice but to turn to a church for charity.

Boom. Instant dependence and a new Soldier for Christ. This is all as intended.

Incorrect.

JustOneWay · Feb 26, 2024

Larniavc said:
This is all part of the Christian Agenda. If tou forcr young women to bear children and remove state resources for them they have little choice but to turn to a church for charity.

Boom. Instant dependence and a new Soldier for Christ. This is all as intended.

Yep. Indoctrination. As they said, get to them while they are young.

JustOneWay · Feb 26, 2024

Vambram said:
Your opinion couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

While your opinion has not yet been stated. Why is that? You keep posting threads without directing the discussion, then pick apart other's opinions while never posting yours.

BCP1928 · Feb 26, 2024

Vambram said:
Sex ed classes in some states may soon watch a fetal development video from an anti-abortion group

An animated fetus that develops over the course of a three-minute video has become a new front in state-level abortion politics.

apnews.com

What are y'alls thoughts and opinions about this?

It sexualizes children. Definitely a grooming video.

Fantine · Feb 26, 2024

If churches had taken care of the needy and young mothers in the past, the government never would have had to step up.
They failed miserably, woefully.
The nominally Christian anti-tax crowd didn't spend their Trump tax cuts donating to churches.

eleos1954 · Feb 26, 2024

Vambram said:
Sex ed classes in some states may soon watch a fetal development video from an anti-abortion group

An animated fetus that develops over the course of a three-minute video has become a new front in state-level abortion politics.

apnews.com

What are y'alls thoughts and opinions about this?

I'm for it .... understanding how humans are conceived and how they develop in the womb is fascinating and informative.

A2SG · Feb 26, 2024

2PhiloVoid said:
I don't think I said anything about taking away the rights of women and their choices, did I? ... no, I don't think I did.

You may have to point me to the part of my post where I said that.

2PhiloVoid said:
But I get what you're saying: you want to see me make a much finer analytic distinction in my choice of terms so that my language reflects the reality to which it refers (i.e. the referent).

Well, I understand. We all want that ...

Good. Just so you realize you were referring to a nonexistent, made up group to complain about.

-- A2SG, seems to me there's a term for that kind of argument...something about straw...

2PhiloVoid · Feb 26, 2024

A2SG said:
You may have to point me to the part of my post where I said that.

Good. Just so you realize you were referring to a nonexistent, made up group to complain about.

Yes, I do indeed. That's why there was an 'odd' loaded into my locution.

A2SG said:
-- A2SG, seems to me there's a term for that kind of argument...something about straw...

No. You're implying a strawman about the strawman.

2PhiloVoid · Feb 26, 2024

A2SG said:
You may have to point me to the part of my post where I said that.

Good. Just so you realize you were referring to a nonexistent, made up group to complain about.

-- A2SG, seems to me there's a term for that kind of argument...something about straw...

The trick here is to assert that all Pro-Choice advocates share identical motives and identical definitions by which to express their views on "rights."

But the reality is, they really don't. It's all over the place, just like it is on the other side of the philosophical tracks.

A2SG · Feb 26, 2024

2PhiloVoid said:
Yes, I do indeed. That's why there was an 'odd' loaded into my locution.

It'd be very odd, considering there are no groups such as the one you referred to.

2PhiloVoid said:
No. You're implying a strawman about the strawman.

Nope, no strawmen on my part.

-- A2SG, I didn't make up any nonexistent groups either....

2PhiloVoid · Feb 26, 2024

A2SG said:
It'd be very odd, considering there are no groups such as the one you referred to.

Nope, no strawmen on my part.

-- A2SG, I didn't make up any nonexistent groups either....

You missed the main inference I was getting at in my first post.

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