Ukraine War in 2024: What Happens Now?

Vambram · Dec 30, 2023

Ukraine War in 2024: What Happens Now?

What if there will be little to no aid for Ukraine coming from Washington anytime soon? What does that mean for Kyiv in 2024? What does it mean for Russia?

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What if there will be little to no aid for Ukraine coming from Washington anytime soon? What does that mean for Kyiv in 2024? What does it mean for Russia?
The answers to these questions hinge on what one means by “anytime soon.” Much of the Western commentariat appears to assume the worst and that U.S. assistance will dry up completely. But such a scenario is improbable. The White House needs to keep funding Ukraine, and Congress needs to curb the flow of immigrants. Despite the bluster and chest-beating, a compromise is all but inevitable as neither side wants to “lose Ukraine” or fail to “stop the flood” of immigrants in an election year. The only question is whether the funding will resume in a few weeks or months.
Given such circumstances, Kyiv’s strategy is clear: to keep doing what it has been doing very effectively. That means degrading Russia’s navy, air force, transportation networks, and strategic infrastructure and inflicting high casualties on Russian soldiers.
The reality is that Ukraine’s counter-offensive was sputtering almost from the very beginning. It’s not as if the Ukrainians had been relentlessly attacking for the last few months and suddenly realized a few weeks ago (when General Valery Zaluzhny openly spoke of “stalemate”) that they’re making little to no progress. On the contrary, the Ukrainians have long since assumed the same defensive positions that Western policymakers and analysts recommended. The Russian side has been attacking along much of the front while simultaneously engaging in human-wave tactics that have produced few territorial gains and huge casualties.

Avniel · Dec 30, 2023

There’s too many proxy wars to continue to fund them all. This is a strategy to deplete finances on a soon to be failing dollar.

Hans Blaster · Dec 30, 2023

Avniel said:
There’s too many proxy wars to continue to fund them all. This is a strategy to deplete finances on a soon to be failing dollar.

What proxy wars do you speak of?

Russia really did invade Ukraine for their own purposes (conquest/elimination) and we (and others) are providing aid to help them fight back. It's not a proxy war.

stevil · Dec 30, 2023

If Russia take Ukraine it is likely they will invade another of their neighbors.
It is also likely that China will invade Taiwan, seeing that the allies will eventually give up resistance.

Aryeh Jay · Dec 30, 2023

stevil said:
If Russia take Ukraine it is likely they will invade another of their neighbors.
It is also likely that China will invade Taiwan, seeing that the allies will eventually give up resistance.

Will Russia have enough convicts to invade another country?

stevil · Dec 30, 2023

Aryeh Jay said:
Will Russia have enough convicts to invade another country?

Russia has 144 million people. I'm sure they aren't running out of grunts soon.

Aryeh Jay · Dec 30, 2023

stevil said:
Russia has 144 million people. I'm sure they aren't running out of grunts soon.

And they are breaking down the doors to the recruiting offices to join up too.

Pommer · Dec 30, 2023

Aryeh Jay said:
And they are breaking down the doors to the recruiting offices to join up too.

Hoping that the vandalism charges will somehow keep them out?

SimplyMe · Dec 31, 2023

stevil said:
If Russia take Ukraine it is likely they will invade another of their neighbors.
It is also likely that China will invade Taiwan, seeing that the allies will eventually give up resistance.

You do realize the "neighbor" Russia will attack is likely a NATO member, meaning the US will be obligated to go to war -- and send troops -- against Russia. We're far better off funding Ukraine -- where most of the dollars are spent in the US (it is estimated 90%) to supply weapons -- then having to fight to protect a NATO ally from a Russian attack.

Nithavela · Dec 31, 2023

Aryeh Jay said:
And they are breaking down the doors to the recruiting offices to join up too.

From what I've observed, they usually make a video complaining about lack of equipment and training and then walk to their deaths.

7thKeeper · Dec 31, 2023

stevil said:
Russia has 144 million people. I'm sure they aren't running out of grunts soon.

The number doesn't quite tell everything though as their population "pyramid" is horrendous.

Laodicean60 · Dec 31, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
What proxy wars do you speak of?

Russia really did invade Ukraine for their own purposes (conquest/elimination) and we (and others) are providing aid to help them fight back. It's not a proxy war.

Do you think threatening them with NATO all around their borders had anything to do with it?

Nithavela · Dec 31, 2023

SimplyMe said:
You do realize the "neighbor" Russia will attack is likely a NATO member, meaning the US will be obligated to go to war -- and send troops -- against Russia. We're far better off funding Ukraine -- where most of the dollars are spent in the US (it is estimated 90%) to supply weapons -- then having to fight to protect a NATO ally from a Russian attack.

Nah they'll go for Moldovia first.

Nithavela · Dec 31, 2023

Laodicean60 said:
Do you think threatening them with NATO all around their borders had anything to do with it?

Do you think that Russia beating down on its non-NATO neighbours has anything to do with every neighbouring country wanting to join NATO?

Laodicean60 · Dec 31, 2023

No different than the west beating down other countries for finacial gain.

Nithavela said:
Russia beating down on its non-NATO

Crimea was a beaten down, but their demographic was pro Russian. I know Putins lunacy of bringing back the Soviet of old which is his pipe dream. Can you give me a couple examples of Russia beating down non Nato neigbors.

Nithavela · Dec 31, 2023

Laodicean60 said:
No different than the west beating down other countries for finacial gain.

Crimea was a beaten down, but their demographic was pro Russian. I know Putins lunacy of bringing back the Soviet of old which is his pipe dream. Can you give me a couple examples of Russia beating down non Nato neigbors.

Besides Ukraine?

Well, there was the Russo-Georgian war. They support and supported separatist movements in several other countries and regions like Moldovia and Nagorno-Karabakh and strongly influence other former parts of the UDSSR, both with economic support and with sanctions when they don't act like they are supposed to. Support of separatist movements is a big part of Russias strategy, and they also support those movements in far-away and Nato countries.

What's Behind Russian Support for World's Separatist Movements?

And of course there are the regular calls for pressuring and invasion of neighbouring countries on state tv (which is basically just a mouthpiece for the Kremlin). Those calls also include countries who are part of Nato, and I don't think they are meant serious, but still a threat's a threat.

Laodicean60 · Dec 31, 2023

Nithavela said:
Besides Ukraine?

Well, there was the Russo-Georgian war. They support and supported separatist movements in several other countries and regions like Moldovia and Nagorno-Karabakh and strongly influence other former parts of the UDSSR, both with economic support and with sanctions when they don't act like they are supposed to. Support of separatist movements is a big part of Russias strategy, and they also support those movements in far-away and Nato countries.

What's Behind Russian Support for World's Separatist Movements?

And of course there are the regular calls for pressuring and invasion of neighbouring countries on state tv (which is basically just a mouthpiece for the Kremlin). Those calls also include countries who are part of Nato, and I don't think they are meant serious, but still a threat's a threat.

Now has the west done the same in history?

Nithavela · Dec 31, 2023

Laodicean60 said:
Now has the west done the same in history?

How about we leave the whataboutisms at the door? (One of the favorite tactics of Russian propaganda bots, btw)

Laodicean60 · Dec 31, 2023

Nithavela said:
How about we leave the whataboutisms at the door? (One of the favorite tactics of Russian propaganda bots, btw)

It's a question that's hard to answer truthfully.

Nithavela · Dec 31, 2023

Laodicean60 said:
It's a question that's hard to answer truthfully.

It's off topic. Please stop.

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