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In Acts 10 Peter has a vision in which a sheet filled with unclean animals is let down from heaven three times. Let's look at what Peter learned from this vision,

Acts 10:
1 There was a certain man in Cesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.
5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:
6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

So what was Cornelius told by the angel to do? He's told to send for Peter and where Peter is to be found.

7 And when the angel which spake unto Cornelius was departed, he called two of his household servants, and a devout soldier of them that waited on him continually;
8 And when he had declared all these things unto them, he sent them to Joppa.
9 ¶On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon’s house, and stood before the gate,
18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
19 ¶While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

So Peter is puzzled by what this dream meant and while he is thinking this over the messengers sent by Cornelius arrive and the HS tells him to go with them.

21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?
22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
23 Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
24 And the morrow after they entered into Cesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends.

So Peter goes with the messengers from Cornelius and goes to Cesarea

25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.

So after Cornelius had sent the messengers to Peter he had called together many of his friends and relatives.

28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

What does Peter tell the people? That it is unlawful for a Jew to associate with people of another nation, but God had shewed him that what he should not consider any man unclean.

29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?
30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,
31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.
32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.
33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

Then Peter understands the meaning of his dream.

34 ¶Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

What happens next?

44 ¶While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 answered Peter,For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

So what was the meaning of Peter's dream? That any food a Gentile chooses to eat is OK? Not even. It's that the Jewish Christians should preach the gospel to anyone and everyone. That they should no longer be prejudiced against the Gentiles as the Pharisees had taught them.

Everything Paul taught makes sense in this context.
 

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I have just one thing to add to my opening post. There is no Biblical evidence of any of the apostles ever preaching the gospel to the Gentiles before this occurrence. So before this all Christians were Jews. Cornelius was the very first Gentile Christian. So up to that time all Christians worshiped on the Sabbath and kept all the dietary laws given to Moses. The chances of any of the apostles teaching anyone worship on Sunday are between zip, nada, and zilch.
 
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I have just one thing to add to my opening post. There is no Biblical evidence of any of the apostles ever preaching the gospel to the Gentiles before this occurrence. So before this all Christians were Jews. Cornelius was the very first Gentile Christian. So up to that time all Christians worshiped on the Sabbath and kept all the dietary laws given to Moses. The chances of any of the apostles teaching anyone worship on Sunday are between zip, nada, and zilch.
They congregated and broke bread on Sunday, which they called the Lord's Day. Their focus was totally on Christ and the Resurrection. And the Jews keeping the Saturday Sabbath and dietary laws of Moses were persecuting and killing them because of that. Scripture makes it quite clear that the Jews considered Christians guilty of breaking the Sabbath and dietary law.
 
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They congregated and broke bread on Sunday, which they called the Lord's Day. Their focus was totally on Christ and the Resurrection. And the Jews keeping the Saturday Sabbath and dietary laws of Moses were persecuting and killing them because of that. Scripture makes it quite clear that the Jews considered Christians guilty of breaking the Sabbath and dietary law.
Not the Christian Jews. The Pharisees. The disciples did not teach anyone to worship on Sunday. There is no scripture that shows the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. Scripture saying people got together to eat isn't the same as saying saying they got together to worship,

This was the Sunday of the resurrection.

Luke 24: 12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.
13 ¶And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
......
29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.
30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Bread was a really common food among the poorer people in those days just as it is today. There's a reason it is called the staff of life. So saying people got together to eat is in no way a commandment to worship on that day as we all eat every day.

You're going to have to demonstrate from scripture that Christian Jews were killing Gentile Jews for eating the wrong foods as scripture says just the opposite.

Acts 15: 24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Philippians 3: 4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

So what law is Paul speaking of? The law of the Pharisees which is opposed to the Gospel as he was obviously breaking God's law by putting Christians to death.

Acts 26: 9 I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10 Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them.
11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.
 
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Not the Christian Jews. The Pharisees. The disciples did not teach anyone to worship on Sunday. There is no scripture that shows the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. Scripture saying people got together to eat isn't the same as saying saying they got together to worship,

This was the Sunday of the resurrection.

Luke 24: 12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.
13 ¶And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
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29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.
30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Bread was a really common food among the poorer people in those days just as it is today. There's a reason it is called the staff of life. So saying people got together to eat is in no way a commandment to worship on that day as we all eat every day.

You're going to have to demonstrate from scripture that Christian Jews were killing Gentile Jews for eating the wrong foods as scripture says just the opposite.

Acts 15: 24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Philippians 3: 4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

So what law is Paul speaking of? The law of the Pharisees which is opposed to the Gospel as he was obviously breaking God's law by putting Christians to death.

Acts 26: 9 I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10 Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them.
11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.
There's no such thing as a Christian Jew. After the resurrection they were all former Jews who became Christians. They were punished for teaching Christianity in the synogogs. They gathered together as a Christian congregation in houses on Sunday, the Lord's Day, the day of the Resurrection, to break bread ie take communinion (Acts 20:7).
 
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There's no such thing as a Christian Jew. After the resurrection they were all former Jews who became Christians. They were punished for teaching Christianity in the synogogs. They gathered together as a Christian congregation in houses on Sunday, the Lord's Day, the day of the Resurrection, to break bread ie take communinion (Acts 20:7).
So Paul, and all the disciples, DNA changed after the resurrection so they were no longer Jews? That's odd as DNA still proves Jews are a separate race.

Your quote from Acts 20 ignores the fact that the Biblical day goes from sunset to sunset.

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.*n2
6 ¶And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.*n3
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Notice everyday started at evening.

And Jesus rose on the first day of the week,

Matthew 28: 1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.

So when Paul preached on the first day of the week He was preaching on Saturday night. That's why Eutychus fell asleep and fell out the window as scripture says Paul preached a long time.
 
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So Paul, and all the disciples, DNA changed after the resurrection so they were no longer Jews? That's odd as DNA still proves Jews are a separate race.

Your quote from Acts 20 ignores the fact that the Biblical day goes from sunset to sunset.

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.*n2
6 ¶And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.*n3
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Notice everyday started at evening.

And Jesus rose on the first day of the week,

Matthew 28: 1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.

So when Paul preached on the first day of the week He was preaching on Saturday night. That's why Eutychus fell asleep and fell out the window as scripture says Paul preached a long time.
They stopped being Jewish in becoming Christians but remained Hebrew biologically.

A day going from sunset to sunset isn't any different than a day going from midnight to midnight. They took communion on Sunday and Paul preached on into what technically was Monday.
 
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They stopped being Jewish in becoming Christians but remained Hebrew biologically.

A day going from sunset to sunset isn't any different than a day going from midnight to midnight. They took communion on Sunday and Paul preached on into what technically was Monday.
No difference between sunset to sunset and midnight to midnight? Really? So the God didn't really mean what He said in Genesis, or in Matthew 28? He was just flapping His gums, so to speak, just to hear Himself talk. Sorry, but to tell the truth I find that ludicrous.
 
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No difference between sunset to sunset and midnight to midnight? Really? So the God didn't really mean what He said in Genesis, or in Matthew 28? He was just flapping His gums, so to speak, just to hear Himself talk. Sorry, but to tell the truth I find that ludicrous.
I obviously meant in how we regard what day it is. If someone says let's get together Monday morning, you're not going to think they mean 12:01 AM. Or 4:16 PM for that matter.
 
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I obviously meant in how we regard what day it is. If someone says let's get together Monday morning, you're not going to think they mean 12:01 AM. Or 4:16 PM for that matter.
That was not obvious to me. It is also a form of attempting to bypass what scripture says about the beginning and ending of the Biblical day. Eutychus died because Paul preached so late into the night. Not because Paul started preaching early in the morning as most people back then were early risers because they didn't have street lights and artificial lights in their homes like we do.

To understand truth we need to look at events in the context of the times, not apply modern life to back then.
 
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That was not obvious to me. It is also a form of attempting to bypass what scripture says about the beginning and ending of the Biblical day. Eutychus died because Paul preached so late into the night. Not because Paul started preaching early in the morning as most people back then were early risers because they didn't have street lights and artificial lights in their homes like we do.

To understand truth we need to look at events in the context of the times, not apply modern life to back then.
I agree, Paul didn't start preaching early in the morning. But that doesn't leave us with only nighttime to work with. Sunset can be as late as 7:48 PM in Israel.
 
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I agree, Paul didn't start preaching early in the morning. But that doesn't leave us with only nighttime to work with. Sunset can be as late as 7:48 PM in Israel.
So? If Paul preached after they ate and, as scripture says, preached till midnight that was very late for them.
 
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So? If Paul preached after they ate and, as scripture says, preached till midnight that was very late for them.
Aren't you contending that early Christians must have only taken communion on Saturday?
 
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Aren't you contending that early Christians must have only taken communion on Saturday?
Nope. Why should that be? Jesus gave us the communion service on a Thursday night. It's true that most denominations do it during church, but there is no scriptural evidence requiring that.
 
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Nope. Why should that be? Jesus gave us the communion service on a Thursday night. It's true that most denominations do it during church, but there is no scriptural evidence requiring that.
When Christians got together to worship the main feature of that was communion. So the argument in these threads is did they do that on the Jewish Saturday sabbath day, or did they do that on Sunday the Christian Lord's Day?
 
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@Ceallaigh @Clare73 @Marilyn C Take note also that Peter seen all manner of animals but would eat nothing. Because that which was clean was now common because it intermingled with the unclean animals.
Peter seeing this said that he never ate anything common or unclean making a distinction between the two. types of animals he did see.
And the voice from heaven answered Him and said, "what God has cleansed call thou not common." With that being understood God never mentions the unclean only that which was made common by it's interaction with the unclean. This point is missed by most.

It is also worthy of a mention that the Greek word here in Acts 10 translated common is the same Greek word used in Romans 14.
Let that sink in for a moment.

Acts 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
Acts 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Acts 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
Acts 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
Acts 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
 
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@Ceallaigh @Clare73 @Marilyn C Take note also that Peter seen all manner of animals but would eat nothing. Because that which was clean was now common because it intermingled with the unclean animals.
Peter seeing this said that he never ate anything common or unclean making a distinction between the two. types of animals he did see.
And the voice from heaven answered Him and said, "what God has cleansed call thou not common." With that being understood God never mentions the unclean only that which was made common by it's interaction with the unclean. This point is missed by most.

It is also worthy of a mention that the Greek word here in Acts 10 translated common is the same Greek word used in Romans 14.
Let that sink in for a moment.

Acts 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
Acts 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Acts 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
Acts 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
Acts 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
What's your point?
 
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When Christians got together to worship the main feature of that was communion. So the argument in these threads is did they do that on the Jewish Saturday sabbath day, or did they do that on Sunday the Christian Lord's Day?
I don't know that I agree with your assertion as there are only three mentions of "breaking bread" in the NT. The main reason the first Christians got together to worship was for communion? I don't see that in scripture. In the case of the story of Eutychus there is no mention of communion and there aren't many mentions of it in the NT other than Paul saying people were participating unworthily. Most of the interpretations of it I see are Sunday keepers attempting to justify their abandonment of the Sabbath.

Acts 2: 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
This reference to breaking bread is to me a continuation of the thought of how the early Christians shared all things among themselves as it specifically mentions eating their food with thanksgiving.

It's all about how they lived their daily lives.
 
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I don't know that I agree with your assertion as there are only three mentions of "breaking bread" in the NT. The main reason the first Christians got together to worship was for communion? I don't see that in scripture. In the case of the story of Eutychus there is no mention of communion and there aren't many mentions of it in the NT other than Paul saying people were participating unworthily. Most of the interpretations of it I see are Sunday keepers attempting to justify their abandonment of the Sabbath.

Acts 2: 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
This reference to breaking bread is to me a continuation of the thought of how the early Christians shared all things among themselves as it specifically mentions eating their food with thanksgiving.

It's all about how they lived their daily lives.
The term "breaking bread" is in reference to Matthew 26:26.

While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Matthew 26:26.
 
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What's your point?
That Peter seen all manner of animals but would eat nothing. Because that which was clean was now common because it intermingled with the unclean animals.
Peter seeing this said that he never ate anything common or unclean making a distinction between the two. types of animals he did see.
And the voice from heaven answered Him and said, "what God has cleansed call thou not common." With that being understood God never mentions the unclean only that which was made common by it's interaction with the unclean. This point is missed by most.

It is also worthy of a mention that the Greek word here in Acts 10 translated common is the same Greek word used in Romans 14.
Let that sink in for a moment.

Acts 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
Acts 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Acts 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
Acts 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
Acts 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
 
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