Advice for Christians who have some incurable disease

Curiousmind · Nov 21, 2023

Hi,

So we know that some diseases or conditions are not curable by current medical technology for example Aids, broken spin leading to paralysis, born blind, born deaf etc.

We know that God sometimes do miracles, he can heals ofc, there are many real life testimonies, but sometimes he decides not yet, maybe later time, or not to heal at all.

Should the christian keep praying for a miracle ? How many times must the christian pray, 1000 times ? After 1000 times you know it is not the will of God to heal ?
or
Should the christian keep praying untill his last breath, untill the day he really dies.

I guess keep praying untill the day he dies, is the way to go, you loose nothing by praying and believing in a miracle from God.

Br

DW_in_AR · Nov 21, 2023

When the disciples asked Jesus how they should pray, he told them to pray for their daily bread (Luke 11:3). He didn't tell them to ask for miracles. (Though maybe for some people, getting their daily needs met is a miracle.) He didn't say we can't ask for one, but I wouldn't say someone "should" do so.

NBB · Nov 22, 2023

Yes, seek the power of God, seek a good church, seek the Holy spirit.
Don't accept the problem, don't give up, seek the healing, "anything is possible for those who believe" God doesn't lie.

Hazelelponi · Nov 22, 2023

Curiousmind said:
Hi,

So we know that some diseases or conditions are not curable by current medical technology for example Aids, broken spin leading to paralysis, born blind, born deaf etc.

We know that God sometimes do miracles, he can heals ofc, there are many real life testimonies, but sometimes he decides not yet, maybe later time, or not to heal at all.

Should the christian keep praying for a miracle ? How many times must the christian pray, 1000 times ? After 1000 times you know it is not the will of God to heal ?
or
Should the christian keep praying untill his last breath, untill the day he really dies.

I guess keep praying untill the day he dies, is the way to go, you loose nothing by praying and believing in a miracle from God.

Br

Why keep on? Paul prayed 3 times and decided the answer was no to healing and simply something given to him to keep him humble.

I have an incurable disease but at some point you just live with it and ask God not for healing but for the strength to bear under the burden.

Healing is wonderful and I would praise God if it comes but I just pray for strength and live the day as it comes as best I can...

Curiousmind · Nov 22, 2023

Hazelelponi said:
Why keep on? Paul prayed 3 times and decided the answer was no to healing and simply something given to him to keep him humble.

I have an incurable disease but at some point you just live with it and ask God not for healing but for the strength to bear under the burden.

Healing is wonderful and I would praise God if it comes but I just pray for strength and live the day as it comes as best I can...

Well If God told you, if you are convinced God told you to stop praying for healing , you can stop.

Laodicean60 · Dec 4, 2023

Curiousmind said:
I guess keep praying untill the day he dies, is the way to go, you loose nothing by praying and believing in a miracle from God.

This is true, God healed my heart in September after a heart attack for what reason I don't know. I'm getting an echo this week and am curious about my ejection fraction number. If one of my kids were sick or someone I knew I would pray till the day they died. It's not really up to me for the reason God does what He does or doesn't do. Be Blessed

Richard T · Dec 4, 2023

Praying for healing is fine, but at some point you have to really believe that you have received, that God heard the prayer. You have to move from hoping to having faith. Confession is also important, you confess you are saved and you believe in your heart. The big question is how do you get to where you can believe? Is god willing? yes, Jesus said he was willing, James says the elders can pray, we are to lay hands on the sick to see them recover. There are so many scriptures that see healing as a promise from God I would concentrate on those, rather than Paul's thorn in the flesh which some dispute as to whether it was physical or not. Paul also had revelations that warranted the humility and when he asked God three times for removal, there was no doubt God refused him, Paul was not merely going by circumstances, he was hearing God. That is what we have to do, that at some point we need to seek God so diligently that we can get the revelation that we are healed, confess it and then it will manifest.

The reason I can say this with confidence is not only from the bible, but I have experience both in receiving and waiting for years. The lack is not on God's part, but instead it is on us. There is no condemnation, but there is no reason to give up just because you do not have the results you expect in some fixed time frame.

Laodicean60 · Dec 4, 2023

Richard T said:
really believe that you have received

So true. The hard part of believing comes from our heart, We all have our worldview and we don't see this all the time which leaves us with doubt. I remember 13 years ago something happened ay age 50. "Maybe baptized in the Holy Spirit as some would say but I started reading the bible like a maniac. When I got to the NT and came to the healing part. I flat outprayed to God and told him I couldn't believe this healing stuff and I prayed for a couple of months. Even though I wanted to believe the bible. Three months later my brother-in-law was healed through the laying of hands and I praised God for His answer. I've prayed for a lot of things since then but my heart attack was another answered prayer. It still freaks me out. Be Blessed

com7fy8 · Dec 4, 2023

We don't have to guess what God wants us to pray. But submit to Him and discover what He has us doing, including what He has us praying in sharing with Him >

"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Phililpians 2:13)

Don't treat Him like He's distant and impersonal and theoretical, but submit to Him and discover what He has us do. And with God we trust Him to use any situation for His good >

"casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:7)

So, maybe it is wise to not give a lot of attention to healing, but attention to personally trusting Him and doing what He has us do.

And see where He guides our attention.

linux.poet · Dec 7, 2023

I think the most important thing here is submit to God's will. A regular prayer for healing from the disease is good, but a wise Christian should also pray for strength to bear up under the affliction, and that God may be glorified in his choice to heal or not heal. Perhaps a better witness is how you bear up under the disease rather than being healed.

But it is easy for the well to make such counsel. If one is suffering from an incurable disease, I would join them in pouring out their pain before the Lord and praying for them how they wish to be prayed for. If I was in agony looking for prayer and comfort and healing, that is what I would want. Wisdom frequently goes out the window when you are in physical agony and just need relief. Just pay attention to the needs of the individuals.

GaHillBilly · Dec 31, 2023

All Christians are born with an incurable and fatal disease: aging.

When you are young, it's easy to put that out of your mind . . . even though the Bible warns you not to do so
(ie, Mt 10:28: do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. and many others.)

All Christians are also born with other incurable -- in this life -- problems, including the propensity to sin. And while there are some believers who are convinced that some few Christians can live sinlessly in this life, my own observations suggest few if any have actually witnessed the life of a sinless Christian.

So while God does sometimes heal aspects of the problems or injuries we have, the general rule is that our hope is not for this but for the life after life:

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. - Romans 8:18

What is really scary are my many Christian post-retirement age-peers . . . who are afraid to talk of death. If you are 70 . . . and your hope is NOT in heaven, but in some new medical treatment . . . what hope do you really have?

It seems to me that the correct answer is that all Christians should seek and pray to live lives conformed to God's will and purpose, whether they have only the incurable disease of "aging" or whether they also have some other disease as well. It's fine to ask to be healed, so long as we are prepared to be told, along with Paul, that "my grace is sufficient for you".

Curiousmind · Dec 31, 2023

GaHillBilly said:
All Christians are born with an incurable and fatal disease: aging.

When you are young, it's easy to put that out of your mind . . . even though the Bible warns you not to do so
(ie, Mt 10:28: do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. and many others.)

All Christians are also born with other incurable -- in this life -- problems, including the propensity to sin. And while there are some believers who are convinced that some few Christians can live sinlessly in this life, my own observations suggest few if any have actually witnessed the life of a sinless Christian.

So while God does sometimes heal aspects of the problems or injuries we have, the general rule is that our hope is not for this but for the life after life:

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. - Romans 8:18

What is really scary are my many Christian post-retirement age-peers . . . who are afraid to talk of death. If you are 70 . . . and your hope is NOT in heaven, but in some new medical treatment . . . what hope do you really have?

It seems to me that the correct answer is that all Christians should seek and pray to live lives conformed to God's will and purpose, whether they have only the incurable disease of "aging" or whether they also have some other disease as well. It's fine to ask to be healed, so long as we are prepared to be told, along with Paul, that "my grace is sufficient for you".

Young and sick is a problem, old and sick not so relatively, u already lived ur life.

Bobber · Dec 31, 2023

DW_in_AR said:
When the disciples asked Jesus how they should pray, he told them to pray for their daily bread (Luke 11:3). He didn't tell them to ask for miracles. (Though maybe for some people, getting their daily needs met is a miracle.) He didn't say we can't ask for one, but I wouldn't say someone "should" do so.

Depends on how you look at the Lord's prayer. I see healing as a part of Your kingdom come your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And Jesus went about doing good (on earth) healing all which where oppressed of the devil. Acts 10:38. You can even consider there's different types of bread......give us this day our daily bread......in Matt 16:26 we read that healing is the children's' bread. And the Spirit also said through James YES pray for ANY who are sick. James 5:14

GaHillBilly · Dec 31, 2023

Curiousmind said:
Young and sick is a problem, old and sick not so relatively, u already lived ur life.

That's a common view among pagans, but I thought this was a forum for Christians.

Perhaps you can explain your thinking, and the biblical reasons for it, a bit further?

GaHillBilly · Dec 31, 2023

Bobber said:
I see healing as a part of Your kingdom come your will be done on earth . . .

Perhaps you do see it that way. But isn't it more relevant how Christ, or even the Apostle Paul saw it?
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John quotes Christ as telling his disciples that "in this life, you will have trouble"; Paul explains patiently that God had refused to heal him, in spite of Paul's repeated requests; and while James clearly tells Christians to ask for healing, he does not promise that God will always, or even mostly, give an affirmative response.

Euthymios · Jan 27, 2024

Curiousmind said:
Hi,

So we know that some diseases or conditions are not curable by current medical technology for example Aids, broken spin leading to paralysis, born blind, born deaf etc.

We know that God sometimes do miracles, he can heals ofc, there are many real life testimonies, but sometimes he decides not yet, maybe later time, or not to heal at all.

Should the christian keep praying for a miracle ? How many times must the christian pray, 1000 times ? After 1000 times you know it is not the will of God to heal ?
or
Should the christian keep praying untill his last breath, untill the day he really dies.

I guess keep praying untill the day he dies, is the way to go, you loose nothing by praying and believing in a miracle from God.

Br

I would say, never lose hope. Around 200 million people alive today have experienced an unusual event, such as healings, in direct response to prayer. This is discussed in Craig Keener's book, "Miracles: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts." This book also catalogues the most verified miracles in Christian history, from all around the world. Great book, two volumes.

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