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Anyone notice that many people are scientifically illiterate

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Then why bother discussing with them at all?? You're not trying to help them understand - you're trying to .......... make sure someone else reading the argument isn't persuaded by the creationist??
Take as you will from the simple observation I made.
 
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???? I was asking not "taking what i will".
You could just explain???
Explain why bother ? I was not offering to do
that. I suppose each has his own reason.

I just observed that leavening the creationist appears to
be impossible, being the which of why a " hand up"
isn't really a thing.
 
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I guess if one cannot discuss the science, that's another option. Not a good or productive one, but it is an option.
There's lo and many a dodge thro which the deniers
display their scientific illiteracy. Among other things
on display.
 
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Explain why bother ? I was not offering to do
that. I suppose each has his own reason.

I just observed that leavening the creationist appears to
be impossible, being the which of why a " hand up"
isn't really a thing.
i'm sorry - i dont know what we are talking about here
 
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That's moved goalpost position many are taking now that the warming has become undeniable. As recently as 10 years ago on this forum many of those one the right claimed it wasn't even warming.

The fact is that there are no natural factors effecting global temperatures other than the increase in anthropogenic atmospheric CO2.
What no ice age? What happened to it?
 
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What no ice age? What happened to it?
Again, the "impending ice age was a media concoction. In Search Of episodes, while entering, are not science.

In actual science, the earth is currently still in the Pleistocene ice age since we still have ice sheets and glaciers. An ice age only ends when they all disappear.

The earth has been in the Holocene interglacial since about 11,000 BCE.
 
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You have got to hand to those scientists.
They came up with this global warming scam in 1967 by predicting the lower stratosphere would cool while the troposphere warms as a result of AGW even before it became politicized.


I of course gullible enough to fall for this scam researched the subject and provided a maths free explanation for lower stratospheric cooling.


This long term scam continued with scientists rigging the satellite results over the last 40 odd years which supported lower stratospheric cooling and therefore AGW.

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They continued their diabolical deeds by also rigging the solar radiation results which indicated "natural warming" caused by increased solar activity or Milankovitch cycles could not possibly be a component of global warming.

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You got to hand to those scientists for a brilliant piece of long term deception.

 
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Again, the "impending ice age was a media concoction. In Search Of episodes, while entering, are not science.
I didnt ask concerning an impending ice age.
In actual science, the earth is currently still in the Pleistocene ice age since we still have ice sheets and glaciers. An ice age only ends when they all disappear.

The earth has been in the Holocene interglacial since about 11,000 BCE.
So, the warming began long before our modern inventions. So what caused the warming to begin?
 
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Again, the "impending ice age was a media concoction. In Search Of episodes, while entering, are not science.

In actual science, the earth is currently still in the Pleistocene ice age since we still have ice sheets and glaciers. An ice age only ends when they all disappear.

The earth has been in the Holocene interglacial since about 11,000 BCE.
People who do get their " science" from the
funny pages must think everyone else does too.
 
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I didnt ask concerning an impending ice age.

So, the warming began long before our modern inventions. So what caused the warming to begin?
You could google what some of the ideas are.
Nobody knows for certain.
 
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I didnt ask concerning an impending ice age.

So, the warming began long before our modern inventions. So what caused the warming to begin?
The end of the Ice Age was part of the natural warming cycle... the current trend is enhanced by human technology.

As an analogy, proving that natural forest fires exist doesn't make arson impossible, Especially when there is clear evidence.
 
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I didnt ask concerning an impending ice age.
Your question was vague so I went with a common misconceptions about climate change. If you have a specific question, please ask it.
So, the warming began long before our modern inventions. So what caused the warming to begin?
Just because people can die due to human activity does not mean all deaths are caused by human activity. I believe the Holocene warming is due to changes in the earths orbit.
 
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Your question was vague so I went with a common misconceptions about climate change. If you have a specific question, please ask it.

Just because people can die due to human activity does not mean all deaths are caused by human activity. I believe the Holocene warming is due to changes in the earths orbit.
Has the earth been warming in the Ice age prior to the conditions causing it today?
No need to concern yourself with vagueness, or misconceptions, I am asking about the warming without limiting it to Ice age done, still is etc.
 
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