The Spin Is So Bad, I'm Dizzy

Chesterton said:

Outrage as Sky's Kay Burley asks if hostage deal shows Israel places less value on Palestinian lives - The Jewish Chronicle

<p>Breakfast presenter accused of asking 'disgusting' question live on TV</p>

www.thejc.com

I'm posting this for the sick comedy of it. I laughed out loud at about 3:13 in the video when the guy's facial expression changes.

But, you have to wonder. I don't know anything about the TV news business, but unless this lady has the IQ of a doorknob (which we can't rule out), she didn't just come up with this question off the top of her head. Likely there was a meeting, or at least a consultation with a higher-up, where it was decided that this would be a great rhetorical question to try to make Israel the bad guy, to make white black, to make up down.

OTOH, there was the time when Israel traded over 1,000 Palestinian criminals for one single innocent Israeli citizen, Gilad Shalit. So, I don't know, maybe the lady has a point. If I had been one of the 1,000 criminals I think I'd have been kind of insulted that my life was worth a small fraction of another's life. But if you have a life-affirming culture side by side with a death-loving culture, I don't know, maybe your life is worth less. Just sayin'.

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Chesterton said:

OTOH, there was the time when Israel traded over 1,000 Palestinian criminals for one single innocent Israeli citizen, Gilad Shalit. So, I don't know, maybe the lady has a point. If I had been one of the 1,000 criminals I think I'd have been kind of insulted that my life was worth a small fraction of another's life. But if you have a life-affirming culture side by side with a death-loving culture, I don't know, maybe your life is worth less. Just sayin'.

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Chesterton said:

Oh okay, so you agree with this evil lady's pretzel logic. So you think every trade should be a one for one trade? You'd still be wrong because Israel trades convicted Palestinian criminals for innocent Israelis. You trade an attempted murderer for someone who's only guilty of attending a dance party? Sounds like the Israelis value Palestinians lives more.

By the way, it's the Israeli government, and Israeli lives, not necessarily Jewish, but thanks for letting your true colors show.

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Chesterton said:

Oh okay, so you agree with this evil lady's pretzel logic.

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Chesterton said:

So you think every trade should be a one for one trade?

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Chesterton said:

You'd still be wrong because Israel trades convicted Palestinian criminals for innocent Israelis.

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Chesterton said:

You trade an attempted murderer for someone who's only guilty of attending a dance party? Sounds like the Israelis value Palestinians lives more.

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Chesterton said:

By the way, it's the Israeli government, and Israeli lives, not necessarily Jewish, but thanks for letting your true colors show.

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rambot said:

Its not pretzel logic.

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Chesterton said:

I haven't heard anyone from the Israeli government say the numbers are appropriate. I guess this tells me your opinion of Palestinian lives.

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Of the 300 names Israel proposed for potential release, 233 of them have not been convicted of any crimes; they are categorized simply as “under arrest.”

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Chesterton said:

I'd sooner go to Joseph Goebbels than Scahill for reliable information.

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Chesterton said:

You think Israel has nothing better to do than just arrest innocent people for the fun of it?

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Chesterton said:

This is what they're surrounded by:

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Pommer said:

Maybe we should cease trying to identify “the good guys” and “the bad guys” and reserve judgement until this all is behind us?

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Chesterton said:

And Palestine just grabs people and blows them up, and shoots them, and stabs them, and rapes them and beats them and kidnaps them. Very respect worthy, huh?

I don't know. But can you find me examples of Israeli children saying they are very happy about Palestinians getting stabbed?

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In administrative detention, a person is held without trial without having committed an offense, on the grounds that he or she plans to break the law in the future. As this measure is supposed to be preventive, it has no time limit. The person is detained without legal proceedings, by order of the regional military commander, based on classified evidence that is not revealed to them. This leaves the detainees helpless – facing unknown allegations with no way to disprove them, not knowing when they will be released, and without being charged, tried or convicted.

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Pommer said:

Maybe we should cease trying to identify “the good guys” and “the bad guys” and reserve judgement until this all is behind us?

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rambot said:

It's really funny you say this! I was just thinking about this on one of my many errands in the car while I was driving.

Ultimately, I don't know which side to land on but I lean to the latter.

I can understand your take on this and my first thought [as a prisoner] would have been "Boy Hamas doesn't value my life if they it's only worth 1/999 in exchange"

Then I realized, it's not Hamas devaluing that life. It's the Jewish government. If they are willing to trade that many for so few Jewish lives, that shows what their opinion is of a Palestinian life.

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