Italy had no births for 3 months - zero.

RileyG · Oct 24, 2023

Prayers for Italy and their future.

RileyG · Oct 24, 2023

JimR-OCDS said:
During the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, Northern Italy had a large number of people who got
sick and died. This was because the population in that area of Italy was so low, it was mostly old people
living there. As a result, Italy began a campaign of letting young immigrants from China to live there.
They took on jobs that old people could not do anymore. Any, during the Chinese New Year in February
of that year, many of the immigrants when back to China for the New Year celebration. They returned with
the COVID infection and infected the elderly Italian population. This was the main cause of driving the
COVID infection rate up in that area.

So, yes, Italy has a problem with repopulating itself. I even read about 8 years ago of villages becoming
extinct as a result. However, I doubt that there were zero births in three months.

Also, Japan has a repopulation problem and because of their anti-immigration policies, the population
of native Japanese is in peril. It has much to do with their focus on creating robots to do the mundane
task that they won't have people to do.

How sad.

Gnarwhal · Oct 24, 2023

Meanwhile I assume they have the same immigration crises that France, Spain, Greece and other European countries are having with people pouring in from North Africa and the Middle East. That doesn't bode well for Italy.

chevyontheriver · Oct 24, 2023

Gnarwhal said:
Meanwhile I assume they have the same immigration crises that France, Spain, Greece and other European countries are having with people pouring in from North Africa and the Middle East. That doesn't bode well for Italy.

Italian can always be replaced by Arabic.

chevyontheriver · Oct 24, 2023

Dewi Sant said:
It sounds like a error in statistical reporting.
What is possible is that Italy has experienced zero population growth over a three month period.
This would mean there are births, but with the average Italian woman producing 1.24 children, it is easily offset with the mortality rate.

They already bury 12 for each 7 born. Immigration may make up the difference.

chevyontheriver · Oct 24, 2023

WarriorAngel said:
There was a Catholic chatter or Christian, I wish I remembered the source I was listening to.
WHO SAID.... China is also losing birth rates.
And not because of their 3 child policy in effect now... because they are not even having that many.

Their one child policy, now thankfully trash-canned, set up an expectation. I think most Chinese now treat that as the new norm.

I just heard something about Chinese medicine, where there is a lot of self-harm from people who don't have much to live for.

chevyontheriver · Oct 24, 2023

JimR-OCDS said:
During the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, Northern Italy had a large number of people who got
sick and died. This was because the population in that area of Italy was so low, it was mostly old people
living there. As a result, Italy began a campaign of letting young immigrants from China to live there.
They took on jobs that old people could not do anymore. Any, during the Chinese New Year in February
of that year, many of the immigrants when back to China for the New Year celebration. They returned with
the COVID infection and infected the elderly Italian population. This was the main cause of driving the
COVID infection rate up in that area.

So, yes, Italy has a problem with repopulating itself. I even read about 8 years ago of villages becoming
extinct as a result. However, I doubt that there were zero births in three months.

Also, Japan has a repopulation problem and because of their anti-immigration policies, the population
of native Japanese is in peril. It has much to do with their focus on creating robots to do the mundane
task that they won't have people to do.

They better be making robots that can befriend people so they don't feel so alone. But would that really work?

JimR-OCDS · Oct 24, 2023

chevyontheriver said:
They better be making robots that can befriend people so they don't feel so alone. But would that really work?

If you like concerning Si-Fi type series, check out The 100, on Netflix.

The possibility which AI could cause.

Gnarwhal · Oct 24, 2023

chevyontheriver said:
Italian can always be replaced by Arabic.

All the romantic languages seem to be trending that way, and now the Latin ones as well. More than a shame, it's a travesty.

WarriorAngel · Oct 24, 2023

JimR-OCDS said:
If you like concerning Si-Fi type series, check out The 100, on Netflix.

The possibility which AI could cause.

Loved that series til they went all lesbian with a fan fave [who I loved with Bellamy. ]
They always have to ruin good stuff.
BTW you do know they ^^ married in real life.

They ruined Lagacies too.
It's now a requirement to ruin story lines with gays.

I'm a sci fi fan.

WarriorAngel · Oct 24, 2023

chevyontheriver said:
Their one child policy, now thankfully trash-canned, set up an expectation. I think most Chinese now treat that as the new norm.

I just heard something about Chinese medicine, where there is a lot of self-harm from people who don't have much to live for.

They're up to 3 now because low birth rates.
The low volume of women might be a key to that.
Depressed men without wives.

WOMEN get to pick and choose mates in China now, and they usually go for money now.
So the poor men who may love a woman don't stand a chance.

Ergo the low number of women has messed up lives.

GodsGrace101 · Oct 25, 2023

WarriorAngel said:
I do not know either if truth.
But I did also find that in 2021 concerns of dropping rates.

Why post nonsense if you don't know it's true?
I didn't watch your link.

LizaMarie · Oct 25, 2023

chevyontheriver said:
It’s hard to recover from walking off a demographic cliff. Children are a sign of hope for the future. A paucity of children is a sign of hopelessness.

Yes exactly. Children are the future. This is why although I am a conservative and mostly believe in smaller government I believe that our government should encourage family formation, marriage and children. I think births should either be free or greatly reduced, child tax credits, long maternity leaves, etc. And I personally support a national abortion ban set at six weeks.(heartbeat) I realize that will be hard to get through but I'm going to vote in the primary for the candidate who has declared they would sign it, or would sign a ban.

Sword of the Lord · Oct 25, 2023

So, who is ready for the Muslim world majority? I for one can't wait until England is a Caliphate. (Sarcasm)

Westerners are so deluded

JimR-OCDS · Oct 25, 2023

WarriorAngel said:
Loved that series til they went all lesbian with a fan fave [who I loved with Bellamy. ]
They always have to ruin good stuff.
BTW you do know they ^^ married in real life.

They ruined Lagacies too.
It's now a requirement to ruin story lines with gays.

I'm a sci fi fan.

The point is that this could actually happen, that an AI Computer teaches itself to break into the Chinese
Defense system and make it look like the US has launched nuclear missiles at them, which they respond
to with actually launching their own, which then triggers the US to really launch missiles and of course
this also triggers Russia to launch their own. Meanwhile, those up in the space station watch as they
see the earth come to an end. Hopefully, I won't be around to see it.

chevyontheriver · Oct 25, 2023

Sword of the Lord said:
So, who is ready for the Muslim world majority? I for one can't wait until England is a Caliphate. (Sarcasm)

Westerners are so deluded

They don't even need 51% to take over in any particular country. Just to be a semi-cohesive group when they vote. They should be able to take over with about 25%. Then the Sharia Law comes into effect in Europistan.

WarriorAngel · Oct 26, 2023

chevyontheriver said:
They don't even need 51% to take over in any particular country. Just to be a semi-cohesive group when they vote. They should be able to take over with about 25%. Then the Sharia Law comes into effect in Europistan.

Research shows 15% they riot for Sharia and start taking it upon themselves.

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