Nebraska governor signs order narrowly defining sex as that assigned at birth

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

Bradskii said:
So beard, adams apple (which is a lot less visible depending on body fat), fat, bones, voice...I think that will do. Maybe if the dude in post 112 sounded effeminate then he'd be the check out girl. He's got a fair distribution of fat. Got the beard. No telling on the Adams apple (maybe you'd demand to look).

So, you give a pass to the woman with the beard in the shop. But not the dude with the beard in the picture. But if the woman was taking hormones to transition you'd say she then couldn't use the ladies.

But wait...maybe she's a guy who wants to be a woman. Hence the effeminate voice. The body fat. Are you then going to insist a guy uses the women's rest room?

And what if she is a woman who wants to be a man? She can't use the men's?

Looks like to make a complaint you need to determine if it's a guy or a gal, and then decide if he or she is transgender and then decide which way he or she is transgendering. This is such a mess of impressions, nonsensical notions and barely credible opinions that I guess we're now down to what you cringingly refer to as the dinky dangler. You'll need to check on that before you can make any decisions.

And the person in Wal-Mart? 'Excuse me, officer. This person just used the women's rest room and she has a husky voice!'

Good grief...

Oh that's just the tip of the iceberg. We haven't even touched on smells; and men perspire more.

I'm so thankful that I don't get so confused about the sexes of transgenders (even with all of their attempted deception), as they do themselves.

RileyG · Sep 24, 2023

Bradskii said:
In which case it shouldn't matter to you whatsoever what the person looks like. If the person with the beard has XX then you can tell any woman who complains that she has nothing to complain about.

Fair enough, as I stated before, some women have facial hair.

Mayzoo · Sep 24, 2023

HARK! said:
First of all I would tell my daughter to go to the bathroom before were left to go grocery shopping. That's a tip that I learned from my mother, when I was a little boy.

In the rare case that she might need to use the restroom while we were out and about, I would never take my daughter into the men's room. I would wait for her outside of the women's restroom. I wouldn't want to have to worry about her being in there alone with a man exposing himself.

You may be comfortable sending a 3+-year-old girl into a restroom alone, and you may be patient enough to wait outside while they get distracted/scared and will not come back out, but many folks are not comfortable with that.

I have been in the restroom numerous times with what appeared to be a man that came in. Never had one expose themselves. I have never heard another female IRL mention that a man exposed themselves in a women's restroom. They used the stalls to presumably use the restroom and left. How often are men going into women's restrooms and exposing themselves? Do you have any stats on how often this is happening? I thought the favorite place for men to expose themselves was parks and beaches.

RDKirk · Sep 24, 2023

Mayzoo said:
You may be comfortable sending a 3+-year-old girl into a restroom alone, and you may be patient enough to wait outside while they get distracted/scared and will not come back out, but many folks are not comfortable with that.

I have been in the restroom numerous times with what appeared to be a man that came in. Never had one expose themselves. I have never heard another female IRL mention that a man exposed themselves in a women's restroom. They used the stalls to presumably use the restroom and left. How often are men going into women's restrooms and exposing themselves? Do you have any stats on how often this is happening? I thought the favorite place for men to expose themselves was parks and beaches.

Men don't gratuitously expose ourselves even in the men's restroom. That would weird. We turn toward the urinal, unzip, then zip back up (or at least be tucked back in) before we turn away from the urinal.

We don't even look at each other in the men's room. That would be weird.

We don't even strike up conversations with strangers while standing at the urinals. That would be weird.

We don't open conversations with strangers while holding our business in our hands. That would be weird.

The Barbarian · Sep 24, 2023

RDKirk said:
Nobody talks to a stranger while holding their business in their hands. That would be weird.

Unwritten rules...
"If there are multiple urinals, away use the one farthest away from any one being used."

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

Mayzoo said:
You may be comfortable sending a 3+-year-old girl into a restroom alone, and you may be patient enough to wait outside while they get distracted/scared and will not come back out, but many folks are not comfortable with that.

I have been in the restroom numerous times with what appeared to be a man that came in. Never had one expose themselves. I have never heard another female IRL mention that a man exposed themselves in a women's restroom. They used the stalls to presumably use the restroom and left. How often are men going into women's restrooms and exposing themselves? Do you have any stats on how often this is happening? I thought the favorite place for men to expose themselves was parks and beaches.

What percentage of times do men use women's restrooms without exposing themselves. Do you have any stats.

Do you have any stats on what percentage of men expose themselves when they visit parks and beaches.

I'd like to compare all of your stats.

Pommer · Sep 24, 2023

HARK! said:
What percentage of times do men use women's restrooms without exposing themselves. Do you have any stats.

Do you have any stats on what percentage of men expose themselves when they visit parks and beaches.

I'd like to compare all of your stats.

Have you ever been in a “ladies room”?

Typically there’s a counter with a large mirror behind it this may be 2-3m long.
Each toilet is housed in its own stall.

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

Pommer said:
Have you ever been in a “ladies room”?

Typically there’s a counter with a large mirror behind it this may be 2-3m long.
Each toilet is housed in its own stall.

And?

The Barbarian · Sep 24, 2023

HARK! said:
And?

I suppose that would make it really difficult to even know who was transgendered.

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

The Barbarian said:
I suppose that would make it really difficult to even know who was transgendered.

Why is that?

Bradskii · Sep 24, 2023

HARK! said:
Why is that?

The same reason you have no idea of the sex of the check out woman. Women don't walk around in the john, or anywhere else, exhibiting their genitals. You'll have to go by smell. Or whatever your chosen sense is at any given time..

'Nebraska’s Republican Gov. Jim Pillen has confirmed they will also be measuring body fat, scanning voice box sizes, using accurate sensory equipment to detect feminine odors, highly sensitive audio equipment to determine voice pitch and perspiration measurements in order to determine who will be allowed in women's restrooms. He refused to say what amount of facial hair would be allowed or whether a direct genital examination was going to be required in borderline cases.'

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

Bradskii said:
The same reason you have no idea of the sex of the check out woman.

False premise.

Bradskii said:
Women don't walk around in the john, or anywhere else, exhibiting their genitals.

Flashers and rapists do.

If there is someone in there that sort of looks like a woman; but sort of looks like a man too, especially if he has a bulge and a beard; and he is standing around loitering, watching women come and go; I would say that deserves a call to the police.

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

Bradskii said:
'Nebraska’s Republican Gov. Jim Pillen has confirmed they will also be measuring body fat, scanning voice box sizes, using accurate sensory equipment to detect feminine odors, highly sensitive audio equipment to determine voice pitch and perspiration measurements in order to determine who will be allowed in women's restrooms. He refused to say what amount of facial hair would be allowed or whether a direct genital examination was going to be required in borderline cases.'

Excellent!

Bradskii · Sep 24, 2023

HARK! said:
False premise.

Flashers and rapists do.

If there is someone in there that sort of looks like a woman; be sort of looks like a man too, especially if he has a bulge and a beard; and he is standing around loitering, watching women come and go; I would say that deserves a call to the police.

'Pillen is also proposing a check on what he terms 'bulges in the genital area' as soon as suitable equipment can be developed. Bulge size is yet to be determined.'

But hey, I thought facial hair was OK. Let's have some consistency here please! And 'sort of looks like a woman but looks like a man too'? What? And standing around is out? Looks like Pillen will need a timer as well. In and out, girls. No loitering!

This is positively Pythonesque. Surely nobody can treat this as serious commentary...

The Barbarian · Sep 24, 2023

HARK! said:
Why is that?

That level of privacy makes it pretty unlikely that anyone would notice.

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

Bradskii said:
'Pillen is also proposing a check on what he terms 'bulges in the genital area' as soon as suitable equipment can be developed. Bulge size is yet to be determined.'

I feel confident that women wont need any special technology to screen what bulges don't belong in a public shower room with them.

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

The Barbarian said:
That level of privacy makes it pretty unlikely that anyone would notice.

I've never seen a restroom that had multiple stalls, with exterior doors that lead directly to each individual stall. What's the difference between that and a string of private restrooms, sort of like a row of portapottys?

Ana the Ist · Sep 24, 2023

Belk said:
<Sits back and awaits the inevitable consequences of drafting legislation without considering the ramifications>

What ramifications?

Always in His Presence · Sep 24, 2023

HARK! said:
I like the law. It helps to prevent boys from raping girls, in the girl's bathroom at school, because they can lay there in wait for them, because they say to themselves, "oh, I'm special."

100% accurate by clearly defining sex at birth helps prevent this perversion in many different ways

HARK! · Sep 24, 2023

Ana the Ist said:
What ramifications?

Good question. Fewer rapes maybe?

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