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I think that it should be readily obvious that if one has a dinky dangler; he has no place in a women's restroom.
I've been in women's rest rooms. By mistake as it turns out. Their plumbing works different to ours and they invariably sit down in separate cubicles. You might catch a glimpse of a man's tackle in the gents. But it ain't going to happen in the ladies. So unless you want a genital check at the entrance to all women's rest rooms then your point is worthless.
 
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I've been in women's rest rooms. By mistake as it turns out. Their plumbing works different to ours and they invariably sit down in separate cubicles. You might catch a glimpse of a man's tackle in the gents. But it ain't going to happen in the ladies. So unless you want a genital check at the entrance to all women's rest rooms then your point is worthless.
The point is quite valid. You're just looking at from the wrong point in the timeline. This can be readily checked in lockup.
 
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Fair enough.

I don't understand why it's controversial that men should use men's restroom and women should use women's restrooms. That's my opinion.
Maybe you mean what we believe is is a man or a woman. But if the person standing next to me at the urinal looks like a woman, I may, depending on the venue, do a quick double take, but otherwise...no problem. And if the same person was to use the women's rest room where my wife just went in then again...no problem. They're both doing their own thing in separate cubicles.
 
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Maybe you mean what we believe is is a man or a woman. But if the person standing next to me at the urinal looks like a woman, I may, depending on the venue, do a quick double take, but otherwise...no problem. And if the same person was to use the women's rest room where my wife just went in then again...no problem. They're both doing their own thing in separate cubicles.
Man= XY
Women= XX
 
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The point is quite valid. You're just looking at from the wrong point in the timeline. This can be readily checked in lockup.
I have no idea what that is meant to imply.
 
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Man= XY
Women= XX
In which case it shouldn't matter to you whatsoever what the person looks like. If the person with the beard has XX then you can tell any woman who complains that she has nothing to complain about.
 
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The authorities can readily check that after the arrest is made.
Nobody is going to get arrested unless they commit an offence. So no. Nobody is going to see any genitalia in a woman's rest room. The point you made was, and remains worthless.
 
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In which case it shouldn't matter to you whatsoever what the person looks like. If the person with the beard has XX then you can tell any woman who complains that she has nothing to complain about.
I woman with a beard rung up my purchase at a dollar store. She wasn't pretending to be a man. She didn't seem to care much about her appearance. I prayed that she had a good man in her life. I wouldn't dare complain about her.
 
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I woman with a beard rung up my purchase at a dollar store. She wasn't pretending to be a man. She didn't seem to care much about her appearance. I prayed that she had a good man in her life. I wouldn't dare complain about her.
So she's ok to use the ladies rest room? Good to know. Oh, except if she was transgender in which case she couldn't. So it's not based on appearance. Except when it is. Or is it chromosomes? Except when it isn't. Well, I guess we'll need a genital check, lady.
 
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In a perfect world. That's not how law enforcement works.
No, that's actually how it does work. You can't arrest a woman for using the ladies rest room. Unless, as I said, you have someone checking genitals. So no, your point hasn't gained any worth. It is still worthless.
 
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I think you're getting it now.
Presumably you never asked the person. So you would have no idea at all. So now it's your call based on what you you know. Based on what you you have observed. Which bathroom does your shop assistant use?
 
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No, that's actually how it does work. You can't arrest a woman for using the ladies rest room. Unless, as I said, you have someone checking genitals. So no, your point hasn't gained any worth. It is still worthless.
Nonsense. I've worked closely with the Police. It's their job to investigate and arrest (stop) suspicious activity. A jury and/or judge determeines whether or not a law has been broken.

If someone complains that a man (who is actually a woman) is tresspassing in the women's restroom; the police investigate; and the alleged man can't, or isn't willing, to convince the police that the allegation is an error; then they are within their right to arrest her, to sort the matter out.
 
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Presumably you never asked the person. So you would have no idea at all. So now it's your call based on what you you know. Based on what you you have observed. Which bathroom does your shop assistant use?
A beard does not make a man. There were many telling clues to indicate that she is a woman. Her voice alone made it clear; but then I have an outstanding ear. I can hear all sorts of things that most others can't. That said, even a mediocre ear wouldn't struggle to discern her gender if put to a test.
 
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Nonsense. I've worked closely with the Police. It's their job to investigate and arrest (stop) suspicious activity. A jury and/or judge determeines whether or not a law has been broken.

If someone complains that a man (who is actually a woman) is tresspassing in the women's restroom; the police investigate; and the alleged man can't, or isn't willing, to convince the police that the allegation is an error; then they are within their right to arrest her, to sort the matter out.
The man is actually a woman? Then what's to complain about? Has someone been peeking over the top of a cubicle to check which women have what sort of genitalia? Someone can complain if there is suspicious activity. A woman using a cubicle in a women's rest room ain't it.
 
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A beard does not make a man. There were many telling clues to indicate that she is a woman. Her voice alone made it clear; but then I have an outstanding ear. I can hear all sorts of things that most others can't.
So she sounded effeminate. And had a beard. Any other clues we need or can you pick which restroom from that?
 
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So she sounded effeminate. And had a beard. Any other clues we need or can you pick which restroom from that?
There were many clues, bone structure, adams apple. and body fat distribution, among others.

Did you know that Dr. Abravanel discovered that men only have three glands that affect body fat distribution; whereas women have four? He won a Nobel Prize for his work.

Sound is a big one for me personally. There was a guy who worked at Walmart who presented himself as a woman. Many clues told me that he was a man; but as soon as he said one word; there was no question.
 
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There were many clues, bone structure, adams apple. and body fat distribution, among others.

Did you know that Dr. Abravanel discovered that men only have three glands that affect body fat distribution; whereas women have four? He won a Nobel Prize for his work.

Sound is a big one for me personally. There was a guy who worked at Walmart who presented himself as a woman. Many clues told me that he was a man; but as soon as he said one word; there was no question.
So beard, adams apple (which is a lot less visible depending on body fat), fat, bones, voice...I think that will do. Maybe if the dude in post 112 sounded effeminate then he'd be the check out girl. He's got a fair distribution of fat. Got the beard. No telling on the Adams apple (maybe you'd demand to look).

So, you give a pass to the woman with the beard in the shop. But not the dude with the beard in the picture. But if the woman was taking hormones to transition you'd say she then couldn't use the ladies.

But wait...maybe she's a guy who wants to be a woman. Hence the effeminate voice. The body fat. Are you then going to insist a guy uses the women's rest room?

And what if she is a woman who wants to be a man? She can't use the men's?

Looks like to make a complaint you need to determine if it's a guy or a gal, and then decide if he or she is transgender and then decide which way he or she is transgendering. This is such a mess of impressions, nonsensical notions and barely credible opinions that I guess we're now down to what you cringingly refer to as the dinky dangler. You'll need to check on that before you can make any decisions.

And the person in Wal-Mart? 'Excuse me, officer. This person just used the women's rest room and she has a husky voice!'

Good grief...
 
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