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SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND DELIVERANCE MINISTRY

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There has been barricades of controversies and disagreement bombarding the global church today regarding the ministry of Spiritual warfare and deliverance as it concerns the Christians .
While a school of thought presupposes that at the point of salvation, we need no further deliverance of what so ever because of 2 Cor. 5:17 and Colo. 2:14-15.
Yet another school of thought asserts that after Salvation a Christian can still need deliverance through Spiritual Warfare prayers .
The paramount Question is CAN A CHRISTIAN EVER NEED ANOTHER KIND OF DELIVERANCE AFTER SALVATION ?

CAN A GENERATIONAL DEFICIENCY OR NEGATIVE FAMILY PATTERN ( reoccurring Sickness,traits, hereditary situation,etc) AFFECT A CHRISTIAN? .
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We know that Mary M had 7 demons cast our of her and that Jesus speaks of the danger of spirits returning to an unoccupied space in a person.

Matt 12:43 “Now when the unclean spirit comes out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. 45 Then it goes and brings along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they come in and live there; and the last condition of that person becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation.”

Therefore Mary must have had the Holy Spirit in her before He delivered her of the demons. Otherwise they could return to the unoccupied space.

However kicking off this discussion we need to make a clear distinction between Possession and Oppression.

I hold the position that it is impossible to be possessed as a believer because the Holy Spirit is in residence (if you define possession as a complete indwelling takeover and control).

Oppression however is a spiritual vulnerability that renders one prone to attack from the outside.

This is dealt with by confession, repentance, renounciation, cleansing, infilling, healing and sealing.

Christians can suffer from this oppression through trauma, sin, abuse etc.

Simon the sorcerer is a good example of a believer who was still carrying spiritual wickedness.
 
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We know that Mary M had 7 demons cast our of her and that Jesus speaks of the danger of spirits returning to an unoccupied space in a person.

Matt 12:43 “Now when the unclean spirit comes out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. 45 Then it goes and brings along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they come in and live there; and the last condition of that person becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation.”

Therefore Mary must have had the Holy Spirit in her before He delivered her of the demons. Otherwise they could return to the unoccupied space.

However kicking off this discussion we need to make a clear distinction between Possession and Oppression.

I hold the position that it is impossible to be possessed as a believer because the Holy Spirit is in residence (if you define possession as a complete indwelling takeover and control).

Oppression however is a spiritual vulnerability that renders one prone to attack from the outside.

This is dealt with by confession, repentance, renounciation, cleansing, infilling, healing and sealing.

Christians can suffer from this oppression through trauma, sin, abuse etc.

Simon the sorcerer is a good example of a believer who was still carrying spiritual wickedness.
I agree.
Having experiencing both.
Being Possessed by an unclean spirit or demon as an unbeliever is a great deal different than being influenced or oppressed by them after being Born Again
This is why I think using media to do deliverances over broad audiences is not necessarily a good idea.
 
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I agree.
Having experiencing both.
Being Possessed by an unclean spirit or demon as an unbeliever is a great deal different than being influenced or oppressed by them after being Born Again
This is why I think using media to do deliverances over broad audiences is not necessarily a good idea.

Sounds like hokus pokus to me - I agree...
 
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CAN A GENERATIONAL DEFICIENCY OR NEGATIVE FAMILY PATTERN ( reoccurring Sickness,traits, hereditary situation,etc) AFFECT A CHRISTIAN? .
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Absolutely. You don't need to look any further than Adam and Eve.
 
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There has been barricades of controversies and disagreement bombarding the global church today regarding the ministry of Spiritual warfare and deliverance as it concerns the Christians .
While a school of thought presupposes that at the point of salvation, we need no further deliverance of what so ever because of 2 Cor. 5:17 and Colo. 2:14-15.
Yet another school of thought asserts that after Salvation a Christian can still need deliverance through Spiritual Warfare prayers .
The paramount Question is CAN A CHRISTIAN EVER NEED ANOTHER KIND OF DELIVERANCE AFTER SALVATION ?

CAN A GENERATIONAL DEFICIENCY OR NEGATIVE FAMILY PATTERN ( reoccurring Sickness,traits, hereditary situation,etc) AFFECT A CHRISTIAN? .
I wait your inputs
Joel 2:32 " And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered:"

As our bother answered YES.. also the verse I posted.. no matter what it is.. its that easy.. call on HIs name you SHALL be delivered.
 
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Fearnot87

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We know that Mary M had 7 demons cast our of her and that Jesus speaks of the danger of spirits returning to an unoccupied space in a person.

Matt 12:43 “Now when the unclean spirit comes out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. 45 Then it goes and brings along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they come in and live there; and the last condition of that person becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation.”

Therefore Mary must have had the Holy Spirit in her before He delivered her of the demons. Otherwise they could return to the unoccupied space.

However kicking off this discussion we need to make a clear distinction between Possession and Oppression.

I hold the position that it is impossible to be possessed as a believer because the Holy Spirit is in residence (if you define possession as a complete indwelling takeover and control).

Oppression however is a spiritual vulnerability that renders one prone to attack from the outside.

This is dealt with by confession, repentance, renounciation, cleansing, infilling, healing and sealing.

Christians can suffer from this oppression through trauma, sin, abuse etc.

Simon the sorcerer is a good example of a believer who was still carrying spiritual wickedness.

We know that Mary M had 7 demons cast our of her and that Jesus speaks of the danger of spirits returning to an unoccupied space in a person.

Matt 12:43 “Now when the unclean spirit comes out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. 45 Then it goes and brings along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they come in and live there; and the last condition of that person becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation.”

Therefore Mary must have had the Holy Spirit in her before He delivered her of the demons. Otherwise they could return to the unoccupied space.

However kicking off this discussion we need to make a clear distinction between Possession and Oppression.

I hold the position that it is impossible to be possessed as a believer because the Holy Spirit is in residence (if you define possession as a complete indwelling takeover and control).

Oppression however is a spiritual vulnerability that renders one prone to attack from the outside.

This is dealt with by confession, repentance, renounciation, cleansing, infilling, healing and sealing.

Christians can suffer from this oppression through trauma, sin, abuse etc.

Simon the sorcerer is a good example of a believer who was still carrying spiritual wickedness.
Yes I concur with you, a Christian can't be possessed by Demon or Satan but rather can be oppressed .



Regarding my first question , I think after salvation Satan doesn't give up on believers rather he becomes more agressive and this is why ,sometimes we start experiencing strange oppositions in destiny pursuit or our spiritual walk with God .

For instance , it's possible that a Christian might still need deliverance for Anger or certain addiction or reoccurring situations in their lives and families.

Again I found out from the Scripture that someone's Family linage can affect you either positively or Negatively as a Christian but not until u deal with it in a place of Warfare and Deliverance prayers and this is where the principles of generational blessings or Generational Deficiency comes into play .

In my second question about Deficiencies in Family linage affecting a Christian or not, I would say yes it can , except someone stops it through converted Deliverance prayers .

A case study of Generational Family Deficiency .

Genesis 49:3-4
NKJV: “Reuben, you are my firstborn,
My might and the beginning of my strength,
The excellency of dignity and the excellency of power. Unstable as water, you shall not excel,
Because you went up to your father’s bed;
Then you defiled it—
He went up to my couch.

Deuteronomy 33:6
NKJV: “Let Reuben live, and not die,
Nor let his men be few.”

After the Jacob placed a curse on Reuben , his linage experienced shortage in male children and possibly premature death of their male children until Moses broke the curse .
I have seen many born again christians experiencing situation like this but not until they received Spiritual warfare and deliverance prayers .
To some it could be poverty, divorce , addiction, witchcraft , anger , premature death , childlessness and etc.

HOW DO YOU NOTICE A GENERATIONAL FAMILY DEFICIENCY?

When there is a negative reoccurring of family pattern of a particular situation.

It's now left for you to carry forensic Spiritual investigation regarding your linage
and then engage the principles of Spiritual warfare and deliverance prayers .

A CASE STUDY OF GENERATIONAL FAMILY BLESSINGS

2 Timothy 1:5
NKJV: when I call to remembrance the genuine faith that is in you, which dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice, and I am persuaded is in you also.

Apostle Paul identifies a particular positive generational spiritual blessing of Godliness in Timothy's linage and commends him .

In Nutshell, Salvation of our Soul is one thing but the Salvation of our Family tree or linage is another thing and it's our responsibility to deal with negative issues associated with our linage .
When we fail to identify and deal with these spiritual deficiencies associated with our linage,they can hamper the tendency of a fulfilled Christian life as we might encounter series of opposition,afflictions,crisis and repeated occurances.But in no doubt Heaven is ours when we die .
 
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