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Sex with children decriminalized?

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Nowhere in the report is there any mention of sexual activity between adults and children. The report also did not call for the decriminalisation of sexual activity between adults and children.

 
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Nowhere in the report is there any mention of sexual activity between adults and children. The report also did not call for the decriminalisation of sexual activity between adults and children.

Isn't this from the report?

With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.

Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.
 
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Isn't this from the report?

With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.

Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.
Well if they go with the trans-age thing, then I suppose a 14 year old could identify as a 23 year old. And we have to respect this. I suspect this is what may happen. I see no difference between a pre-teen boy declaring himself a girl and a 14 year old declaring themselves an adult. Wait for it.
 
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We were discussing this just a few weeks ago here on CF. Leftists poo-pooed it. "It will never happen."
Ok...

Tell us you didn’t read the report or hear the talk associated with it without telling us you didn’t read the report or hear the talk associated with it.

Some instances they mentioned have unfair/unjust sex enforcement standards that need addressing:

* When the age of consent for sex or marriage is dictated by gender, caste, or income. For example, they cited a country where the age to marry/consent to sex for women is 12 while it is 18 for men. The reasons for the discrepancy is because poorer families want to offload their daughters ASAP, because patriarchal societies feel a lower age better guarantees a female virgin on the wedding night, because age-to-marry is determined when they’re able to have children, or because richer people want to exploit poorer through bribery and trafficking.

* When both parties engage in sex and are underage of a similar age, but the male is held to statutory charges when the female isn’t.

* Places that prosecute sex workers more harshly than the Johns for sex work. Examples include areas where sex work is a felony or heavy misdemeanor, whereas solicitation is a misdemeanor or ticketable offense only.

* When one or both parties are married off and underage via arranged marriage despite the fact that one or both may not consent to the marriage. Some places will fault those in the marriage or charge them with rape despite the fact they were coerced into the marriage.

* Instances where a woman is pregnant and underage but only the man is punished for underage sex despite the fact that they both engaged in it.

* Women being trafficked into the sex industry and being unable to escape, yet still being charged for crimes that occur related to their sex work despite their inability to escape.

* When a couple legally marries at an age that is consistent with the age of consent in their area and moves somewhere their marriage would not be valid because the age of consent is higher.

* Instances when age is reported by years instead of realistic age. For example, when girl has sex one week before her 16th birthday and a boy has sex two weeks after turning 18. By the law, an 18 year old had sex with a 15 year old, but by practice somebody who was about to turn 16 had sex with somebody who was still basically 17. By law, it looks predatory but by practice, two comparably aged people had sex.

In the article, they never say “adults having sex with kids should be legal.” They say that adolescent sex, marriage, and relationships have special considerations that should be examined to make sure one party or the other doesn’t take the brunt of the consequences from underage sex. They defined the ages they’re focusing on is adolescents, aged 10-18. 10 because that’s the lowest age of marriage and consent in some member countries, and 18 because that is the lowest age of majority held by member countries. They also said that ideally it would be 13-18, but elected to choose 10 so as to highlight practical concerns that occur with a consent age being so low and the ramifications of such rules.
 
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Isn't this from the report?

With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.

Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.
Yes, that's in the report. See the post above this one (#8) for an excellent explaination.
 
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Well if they go with the trans-age thing, then I suppose a 14 year old could identify as a 23 year old. And we have to respect this. I suspect this is what may happen. I see no difference between a pre-teen boy declaring himself a girl and a 14 year old declaring themselves an adult. Wait for it.
Trans age is not a thing. One Twitter account said it, it was determined it was a troll, and that is the end of it. Besides which, age is a mathematical formulation, that is unchanging. Current year (X) - birth year (Y) = Age.

Gender identity is a complex, non-mathematical determination that takes into account hormones, genetics, physical presenting gender, and other factors. One can be born with the presenting gender of male, but have the chromosomes and genetics that make them truly female. In those situations, the only factor making them male is their genitals, the rest is all constructed to that of a female person. I
 
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Yes, that's in the report. See the post above this one (#8) for an excellent explaination.
Sorry I guess I'm missing the obvious? But when I read the actual report HERE, PRINCIPLE 16 – CONSENSUAL SEXUAL CONDUCT seems like it is saying sex between minors and adults wouldn't be criminal.
 
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Sorry I guess I'm missing the obvious? But when I read the actual report HERE, PRINCIPLE 16 – CONSENSUAL SEXUAL CONDUCT seems like it is saying sex between minors and adults wouldn't be criminal.
Not to mention the title of the article.
 
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Sorry I guess I'm missing the obvious? But when I read the actual report HERE, PRINCIPLE 16 – CONSENSUAL SEXUAL CONDUCT seems like it is saying sex between minors and adults wouldn't be criminal.
If you read Principle 16 in context with the full report it becomes clear that its only refering to sex between adolescents.
 
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Not to mention the title of the article.
The article in the OP is from the organization Live Action which is known for posting misleading and sensational headlines.
 
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Wyoming Republicans would support that!


No to abortion, no to birth control... yes to child marriages? Not exactly a good recipe for a developed western nation.
 
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Trans age is not a thing. One Twitter account said it, it was determined it was a troll, and that is the end of it. Besides which, age is a mathematical formulation, that is unchanging. Current year (X) - birth year (Y) = Age.

Gender identity is a complex, non-mathematical determination that takes into account hormones, genetics, physical presenting gender, and other factors. One can be born with the presenting gender of male, but have the chromosomes and genetics that make them truly female. In those situations, the only factor making them male is their genitals, the rest is all constructed to that of a female person. I

The first trans woman in Britain, Roberta Coswell, actually had an intersex genetic condition known as "XX male syndrome". Many with the condition have ambiguous genitalia. That's where the whole notion of "assigned male at birth" comes from. It's not from anything "woke", it's from medicine studying intersexed individuals. Medicine itself recognized it could make mistakes in gendering someone.
 
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