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Biden’s actions lead us to believe that the best women for a job is a man.

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She was one of about a dozen women given this award this year, in her case in particular because of her activism for trans rights in the face of discrimination.
 
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The White House issued an award to Alba Rueda, a biological man, on International Women’s Day during the 2023 International Women of Courage Awards.
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'In Argentina, Alba Rueda is a transgender woman who was kicked out of classrooms, barred from sitting for exams, refused job opportunities, subjected to violence, and rejected by her family,” Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks said as Rueda received the award from First Lady Jill Biden and Secretary of State Anthony Blinken.'

So should we recognise her courage in the face of such opposition? Nah...who are you kidding. We'll belittle her to make a facile point about transgender people in general. I mean, c'mon. What else did you honestly expect...
 
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From the link:

'In Argentina, Alba Rueda is a transgender woman who was kicked out of classrooms, barred from sitting for exams, refused job opportunities, subjected to violence, and rejected by her family,” Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks said as Rueda received the award from First Lady Jill Biden and Secretary of State Anthony Blinken.'

So should we recognise her courage in the face of such opposition? Nah...who are you kidding. We'll belittle her to make a facile point about transgender people in general. I mean, c'mon. What else did you honestly expect...
There’s no “her”.
 
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Considering her commitment to be a woman in the face of such oppositions, she certainly seems to me to be deserving of the award. And the OP very helpfully provides a prime example of the kind of attitudes she has to overcome.
 
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Considering her commitment to be a woman in the face of such oppositions, she certainly seems to me to be deserving of the award. And the OP very helpfully provides a prime example of the kind of attitudes she has to overcome.
It’s not a her. A her doesn’t need to commit to being a her.
 
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It’s not a her. A her doesn’t need to commit to being a her.
Yep, that's the example. Again, very helpful of you.

Now in this case, I can't find any indication that Rueda had sexual reassignment surgery, and lacking that I wouldn't actually consider Rueda to be a woman. Still, I'm fine using whatever pronouns people want me to refer to them as, I'm just polite that way. If she hasn't had the surgery, I wouldn't be inclined to give her the award if I was in the award giving position, but I'm not going to object to her getting the award either. As long as she does a good job acting the part while knowing her limitations, I'll let it slide.
 
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Yep, that's the example. Again, very helpful of you.

Now in this case, I can't find any indication that Rueda had sexual reassignment surgery, and lacking that I wouldn't actually consider Rueda to be a woman. Still, I'm fine using whatever pronouns people want me to refer to them as, I'm just polite that way. If she hasn't had the surgery, I wouldn't be inclined to give her the award if I was in the award giving position, but I'm not going to object to her getting the award either. As long as she does a good job acting the part while knowing her limitations, I'll let it slide.
You keep saying “she”. That’s not truthful.
 
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You keep saying “she”. That’s not truthful.
Is your real name Hammster? I tend to doubt it. I'm not being truthful by referring to you as Hammster, but I'm gonna do it anyway, because internet handles. Nicknames. Preferred pronouns. Whatever. I'm not hung up on terminology. If you want to be referred to as brzmenkydisnirka, I'm going to have a problem with that, because it's hard to remember. But if it's reasonable, then I'll work with it, because I'm polite that way.

I've been playing online games for decades. I don't know what the other gamers are like in real life. I'll use their game names and refer to them by their avatar gender unless and until the other gamer tells me otherwise. I don't see much of any difference with transgender people in real life.
 
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Is your real name Hammster? I tend to doubt it. I'm not being truthful by referring to you as Hammster, but I'm gonna do it anyway, because internet handles. Nicknames. Preferred pronouns. Whatever. I'm not hung up on terminology. If you want to be referred to as brzmenkydisnirka, I'm going to have a problem with that, because it's hard to remember. But if it's reasonable, then I'll work with it, because I'm polite that way.

I've been playing online games for decades. I don't know what the other gamers are like in real life. I'll use their game names and refer to them by their avatar gender unless and until the other gamer tells me otherwise. I don't see much of any difference with transgender people in real life.

Are you really using this as an argument? When you play online games, do you really believe you are the character, and want everyone else to believe you are the character?
 
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Are you really using this as an argument? When you play online games, do you really believe you are the character, and want everyone else to believe you are the character?
No, I'm saying it's like a forum handle. I use the forum handle, I use the avatar gender. Is this a difficult concept for you?
 
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No, I'm saying it's like a forum handle. I use the forum handle, I use the avatar gender. Is this a difficult concept for you?
No, it’s not. I’m not a Hammster, and I don’t try to convince others that I am.
 
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Singling out a victim of violence (or those who support them) for ridicule is un-Christ-like. In parts of Latin America, transpeople are subject to serious threats of violence, discrimination, and marginalization.
 
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Singling out a victim of violence for ridicule is un-Christ-like. In parts of Latin America, transpeople are subject to serious threats of violence, discrimination, and marginalization.
Mocking sinfulness is very Christ-like.
 
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Mocking sinfulness is very Christ-like.

Not when it harms people who have been the victims of violence. You are pitting "truth" against love, that is sinful. God is love.

The loving, Christ-like thing to do is to support people who have been victims of violence, for whatever reason. Nobody should have to face violence because of who they are.
 
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Not when it harms people who have been the victims of violence. You are pitting "truth" against love, that is sinful. God is love.

The loving, Christ-like thing to do is to support people who have been victims of violence, for whatever reason. Nobody should have to face violence because of who they are.
I’m mocking the president because he gave a woman award to a dude.
 
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I’m mocking the president because he gave a woman award to a dude.

I'm fairly certain the White House knows about the history of Ms. Rueda. You seem to be trying to score some kind of cheap point by ridicule and mockery at the expense of human dignity.
 
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No, I'm saying it's like a forum handle. I use the forum handle, I use the avatar gender. Is this a difficult concept for you?
This is more like if I called myself Jane, made myself up to look like a woman for my avatar and listed myself as female in my profile.
 
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I'm fairly certain the White House knows about the history of Ms. Rueda. You seem to be trying to score some kind of cheap point by ridicule and mockery at the expense of human dignity.
He’s a dude. Mocking him would be identifying him as a woman.
 
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