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America is specifically designed to oppress Blacks

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At least that's what this guy believes: Blacks are systematically oppressed in America because that's the way the Whites want it. :rolleyes:

I'm not going to bother to address his beliefs, but I will say that I've heard a lot of this type of drivel from various sectors of the Black community in the last 10 years or so, and it always boils down to the same thing: Blacks will never have a chance in America, because the whole system is designed to repress them.

My question remains: If the Blacks who feel this way truly believe that they can never rise above the second-class status they supposedly suffer from in America, then ***WHY IN HEAVEN'S NAME DO THEY STAY HERE?!??*** :mad: If I truly believed I could never better myself in a certain country, you can bet I'd be moving heaven and earth to get out of that country. Why would I stay in a place that was so detrimental to me, and live in such conditions, all the while whining and moaning and complaining about how rough I had it?

If every last American Black who feels this way about America were to sell everything that they own and pool their money, I have no doubts that they could probably purchase a homeland for themselves somewhere in the world. They might have to pioneer it, but wouldn't it be worth it for them to be out from under such a repressive system?

 

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If every last American Black who feels this way about America were to sell everything that they own and pool their money, I have no doubts that they could probably purchase a homeland for themselves somewhere in the world. They might have to pioneer it, but wouldn't it be worth it for them to be out from under such a repressive system?
That was already tried in Liberia somewhere around 150 years ago. But the returnees oppressed and essentially colonized the natives and it was a rocky road. Liberia is still not a stable country because of the ethnic discord.
 
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That was already tried in Liberia somewhere around 150 years ago. But the returnees oppressed and essentially colonized the natives and it was a rocky road. Liberia is still not a stable country because of the ethnic discord.
Yes, I'm familiar with Liberia; it's sort of the American equivalent of Sierra Leone, which is where Britain sent its poverty-stricken Black population, deporting them from London to West Africa.

From the late 1700's to the early 1920's there were numerous plans to more or less send every Black in the United States somewhere else, due to the idea that Blacks and Whites would never be able to live in harmony with one another. (This was primarily a White concept, especially in the South, right up into the 1960s; oddly enough, at the current time, it's more of a Black idea, with the Blacks themselves believing they can never achieve equality in America.) Liberia and Sierra Leone were only two of the actual colonies that got started; there were several others in the works that never got off the ground.

Among American leaders who felt that Blacks would be better off "among their own people", and thus shipped out of North America, were Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe (who supported the Liberia experiment), Abraham Lincoln (who wanted to send them to what is now Panama), James Madison, Daniel Webster, John Marshall, and Francis Scott Key, among others. Possible homeland sites included Africa, Cuba, Hispaniola, and the Pacific Northwest. Nothing ever came of such ideas, but the concept has been around for a long, long, long time.
 
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At least that's what this guy believes: Blacks are systematically oppressed in America because that's the way the Whites want it. :rolleyes:

I'm not going to bother to address his beliefs, but I will say that I've heard a lot of this type of drivel from various sectors of the Black community in the last 10 years or so, and it always boils down to the same thing: Blacks will never have a chance in America, because the whole system is designed to repress them.

My question remains: If the Blacks who feel this way truly believe that they can never rise above the second-class status they supposedly suffer from in America, then ***WHY IN HEAVEN'S NAME DO THEY STAY HERE?!??*** :mad: If I truly believed I could never better myself in a certain country, you can bet I'd be moving heaven and earth to get out of that country. Why would I stay in a place that was so detrimental to me, and live in such conditions, all the while whining and moaning and complaining about how rough I had it?

If every last American Black who feels this way about America were to sell everything that they own and pool their money, I have no doubts that they could probably purchase a homeland for themselves somewhere in the world. They might have to pioneer it, but wouldn't it be worth it for them to be out from under such a repressive system?

You wouldn't by any change be white, would you?
 
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You wouldn't by any change be white, would you?
LOL. My ethnic breakdown is as follows:

English..........42%
German........36%
Scots.............17%
Irish...............5%
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TOTAL..........100%

My English ancestors came from Manchester; my German ancestors from Alsace-Lorraine. My Scots ancestors came from the "Highlands and Islands", specifically from Argyll and the Isle of Skye. And my Irish ancestors came from County Kildare. So, in other words, totally Caucasian, completely Northern European.

None of them came to the United States directly from Europe; both sets of great-great grandparents came from Europe to Canada, and their descendants entered the U.S. after the Civil War. Most of my father's family are still Canadians, in Ontario, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan.

Now, your turn. Your point is.....? :)
 
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The liberals like saying stuff like this. Most of the blacks I know don't complain about living in America.
 
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Now, your turn. Your point is.....? :)
That you enjoy and most likely take for granted the benefits of being white and cannot fathom the challenges of being black.
 
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That you enjoy and most likely take for granted the benefits of being white and cannot fathom the challenges of being black.
Most of the challenges faced by blacks comes from being raised by single mothers. Blacks raised in stable families tend to do very well for themselves.
 
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