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ralliann · Jan 7, 2023

What bible do the Eastern Orthodox use? Do you have study bibles?
I ask because several times in the threads here it is repeated "You need to read it in the Greek". So I am curious to know which bible is used and if there are study bibles to help in this area?

Cody J Dunbar · Jan 7, 2023

Orthodox Study Bible is what I and many others typically use. it is based on the Septuagint, and the New King James version is what a lot of folks will recommend.

As for the New Testament, there are some translation errors in the KJV and the NKJV this isn't that hard to believe because they were translated by protestants. From what I have been told the most accurate translation in English is the EOB Eastern Orthodox Bible. Although I don't own one myself. Maybe someone else can confirm.

ralliann · Jan 7, 2023

Cody J Dunbar said:
Orthodox Study Bible is what I and many others typically use. it is based on the Septuagint, and the New King James version is what a lot of folks will recommend.

As for the New Testament, there are some translation errors in the KJV and the NKJV this isn't that hard to believe because they were translated by protestants. From what I have been told the most accurate translation in English is the EOB Eastern Orthodox Bible. Although I don't own one myself. Maybe someone else can confirm.

I have software that keys the strongs concordance numbers to the byzantine NT Greek. Along with the septuagint old testament, but no strongs, just Hebrew. But I am seeing words used differently between the lxx and the Byzantine. Thank you

ArmyMatt · Jan 7, 2023

the most common as far as I can see is the OSB

ralliann · Jan 7, 2023

ArmyMatt said:
the most common as far as I can see is the OSB

Ok thank you. I looked this up. Some are expensive some not so much. But look like the same thing.

ArmyMatt · Jan 7, 2023

ralliann said:
Ok thank you. I looked this up. Some are expensive some not so much. But look like the same thing.

there is also the older version which was the NT and Psalms

Mountainmike · Jan 8, 2023

Cody J Dunbar said:
Orthodox Study Bible is what I and many others typically use. it is based on the Septuagint, and the New King James version is what a lot of folks will recommend.

As for the New Testament, there are some translation errors in the KJV and the NKJV this isn't that hard to believe because they were translated by protestants. From what I have been told the most accurate translation in English is the EOB Eastern Orthodox Bible. Although I don't own one myself. Maybe someone else can confirm.

Id love to see a list of the most critical translation errors - do you know of one?

Cody J Dunbar · Jan 8, 2023

No, I don't have a list. I know that a lot of the translation changes have to do with the Mother of God.

One example is Luke 11:27-28 "And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."

"Rather" is not the correct word. The greek should translate to the word "indeed"

"And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea indeed, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."

This is just one example and there are more but this is a good one because you can see how that changes the way you would perceive the Theotokos.

ralliann · Jan 8, 2023

Cody J Dunbar said:
Orthodox Study Bible is what I and many others typically use. it is based on the Septuagint, and the New King James version is what a lot of folks will recommend.

As for the New Testament, there are some translation errors in the KJV and the NKJV this isn't that hard to believe because they were translated by protestants. From what I have been told the most accurate translation in English is the EOB Eastern Orthodox Bible. Although I don't own one myself. Maybe someone else can confirm.

The Kjv has the Masoretic text for the old testament. I would like to see a bible that gives the lxx for old testament. Since the new is written in the Greek, and many say we need to read it in the Greek, why not a concordance for old testament Greek?

Phronema · Jan 9, 2023

ralliann said:
The Kjv has the Masoretic text for the old testament. I would like to see a bible that gives the lxx for old testament. Since the new is written in the Greek, and many say we need to read it in the Greek, why not a concordance for old testament Greek?

The Orthodox Study Bible Old Testament is a translation of the Septuagint.

Lukaris · Jan 9, 2023

The complete Orthodox Study Bible can be read online.

https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/books/file/18430-The-Orthodox-Study-Bible.pdf

ralliann · Jan 9, 2023

Lukaris said:
The complete Orthodox Study Bible can be read online.

https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/books/file/18430-The-Orthodox-Study-Bible.pdf

Thank you! Wow.

Cody J Dunbar · Jan 10, 2023

ralliann said:
The Kjv has the Masoretic text for the old testament. I would like to see a bible that gives the lxx for old testament. Since the new is written in the Greek, and many say we need to read it in the Greek, why not a concordance for old testament Greek?

The reason for the Septuagint, from what I understand, is that it is the version of the old testament Jesus and his disciples would have read. The new testament quotes the old testament A LOT, so it is essential to know what they were quoting.

ralliann · Jan 10, 2023

Cody J Dunbar said:
The reason for the Septuagint, from what I understand, is that it is the version of the old testament Jesus and his disciples would have read. The new testament quotes the old testament A LOT, so it is essential to know what they were quoting.

I agree mostly

E.C. · Jan 11, 2023

Cody J Dunbar said:
The reason for the Septuagint, from what I understand, is that it is the version of the old testament Jesus and his disciples would have read. The new testament quotes the old testament A LOT, so it is essential to know what they were quoting.

Plus the Masoretic Text wasn't compiled until well after the time of Christ. By that point the Jews had a vested interest in prophecies mentioned in certain books and verses NOT lining up with Christ.

ArmyMatt · Jan 11, 2023

E.C. said:
Plus the Masoretic Text wasn't compiled until well after the time of Christ. By that point the Jews had a vested interest in prophecies mentioned in certain books and verses NOT lining up with Christ.

yep. it’s interesting that the record of Chanukah is in my Bible, but not in the one of my Jewish fellow chaplains.

E.C. · Jan 12, 2023

ArmyMatt said:
yep. it’s interesting that the record of Chanukah is in my Bible, but not in the one of my Jewish fellow chaplains.

That's a wee bit scandalous, you'd think?

ArmyMatt · Jan 13, 2023

E.C. said:
That's a wee bit scandalous, you'd think?

indeed, there is a look of shock/interest when I let them read Maccabees.

notRusskiyMir · Jan 15, 2023

Chanukah (Hanukkah)/Maccabees is interesting in that the events described were traumatic for the Jews and their religion. This was, of course, pre-Christian pagans which attempted to wipe out Hebrew writings. The pain went far further than desecrating the Temple. The Seleucids destroyed Torahs wherever they found them. That was a big reason that the post-Temple Jews - a small group of rabbis - worked hard to assemble a reasonable Torah around 190 AD/CE, but the work wasn't done until the 11th century. Rabbis published 2 revised versions of the Septuagint, which weren't accepted. The original Septuagint was in general use by Jewish communities until the 4th century, roughly related to Christianity being made a legal religion in the Roman empire, when Hebrew was generally mandated.

The Liturgist · Jan 25, 2023

Lukaris said:
The complete Orthodox Study Bible can be read online.

https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/books/file/18430-The-Orthodox-Study-Bible.pdf

Also its available on Scribd along with a host of other EO writings, which would cost a few hundred bucks purchased individually.

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