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Illegal Immigrants on camera attempt Break in on Texas Ranch House 50 miles from border

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"The woman told Melugin that after they failed to get into her house, which she has spent $13,000 upgrading after previous break in attempts, they successfully entered her neighbor's home, but fled by the time Border Patrol responded. "


 
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"The woman told Melugin that after they failed to get into her house, which she has spent $13,000 upgrading after previous break in attempts, they successfully entered her neighbor's home, but fled by the time Border Patrol responded. "
They're just here to do the jobs that Americans don't want to do.

Some go back home when their work is done.

My doctor's dad lives in Laredo. He is afraid to leave his home for more than 15 minutes, because of break ins. He runs out to the grocery store, and hurries back, after being a victim of multiple break ins. Even in that short amount of time away from home, one day he came back from the from buying groceries, to find his refrigerator being floated across the Rio Grande on inner tubes.
 
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I could not ascertain from the video if the burglars were undocumented or even immigrants at all.

Jumping to the conclusuon they are undocumented immigrants seems prejudiced to me.
 
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I could not ascertain from the video if the burglars were undocumented or even immigrants at all.

Jumping to the conclusuon they are undocumented immigrants seems prejudiced to me.
Well if they were locals; it shouldn't take law enforcement very long to narrow down the whereabouts of this gang.

Edwards County is a county located on the Edwards Plateau in the U.S. state of Texas. As of the 2020 census its population was 1,422.[1]


The fact that border residents, in sparsely populated areas, continue to have their homes burglarized regularly, would lead me to believe that it might be related to all of the illegals pouring over the border.

I know that this is a wild hunch; but based on some eye witness accounts, from people who I know who have experienced it for themselves; I'm going with it.
 

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If we can find a single instance of white native born US citizens committing a crime, can we start a thread about how all crimes in that area must be committed by them? Or is it only OK when it is scary brown people doing it?
 
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Wild hunches are called "profiling."

Profiling is what causes police to pull black drivers over for traffic stops, sometimes resulting in violence or death, for example.

Let the Texas police do their investigations. I hope they find the perpetrators, whoever they might be.

Did it ever occur to you that undocumented immigrants who had just crossed the border might want nothing more than to stay "under the radar?"

If I had walked or jumped trains all the way from El Salvador through Mexico, enduring hunger, cold, sickness, and deprivation, and then crossed through the border, I would not want to put the police on my tail. I would want to get further up north, away from the border, preferably to family or friends who were already there, and find work.
 
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If we can find a single instance of white native born US citizens committing a crime, can we start a thread about how all crimes in that area must be committed by them? Or is it only OK when it is scary brown people doing it?
It's not OK when anyone does it; but it's easier to control and identify suspects, when they are U.S. citizens.

More secure borders means more security from crime. Melanin is not illegal.
 
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Wild hunches are called "profiling."
When you see someone crossing the border, with your property, or your neighbors property; and you take a guess at where they came from; it's more than a wild hunch.

Let the Texas police do their investigations.
My neighbor had his garage cleaned out in the middle of the night. One of the things that were missing was a Gator (a small utility vehicle). He called the police; and they told him that his property was probably in Mexico by now. They didn't intend to look for it. He told them that he wished that he had heard them and woken up. They told him that if he had woken up; he would have probably been dead.

This might not seem like a big deal for those in D.C., and don't have to live with it.
 
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Did it ever occur to you that undocumented immigrants who had just crossed the border might want nothing more than to stay "under the radar?"
Some of them stand around and wait for processing. like these from about two weeks ago.

 
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Title 42 is still in force per the Supreme Court.

Texas has its National Guard at the border, and the National Guard is trained and paid for by the federal government.


Maybe you should stop blaming Biden. There are military at the border and the policy sending immigrants back to Mexico immediately is in force.
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Other conservative states have sent their National Guards there at times, too, at least in 2021.

 
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They're just here to do the jobs that Americans don't want to do.

I would challenge that notion.


1) Steven Crowder has a video for years where he tried to recruit some illegals at a Home Depot or similar place to do some day work for $10 cash an hour. This was a long time ago, before Covid inflation, Ukraine war inflation., probably around 2010-2012 or so. He could not get any of them to the job. He however tried to get some good ole boys that were out of work and managed to hire some out of work Anglo's at that price. The Mexican and Latinos were incensed at him driving away in his pickup with a crew of White Southerners they cussed, yelled at them for "Stealing their jobs", and made obscene gestures as they departed (why I am not linking or bothering to look up the video with the TOS).



2) Due to unhappy life events I myself have had to work various kinds of survival jobs, especially security. Even that field has been impacted, according to official regulations you cannot work these jobs if you are not a citizen or at least have a Greem card. These previous standards however did not keep companies from hiring illegal immigrants at the airports prior to 9/11 where a number of such people were working as baggage screeners and airport security even though they did not meet the existing hiring criteria of the times (companies deliberately hired illegals that they could pay under the table to fill these jobs). This problem that was uncovered by congress, and states like New York yet was nevertheless addressed simply by doubling down with more regulations like more training hours, which sadly did not do much to raise the pay for what is otherwise a low paid job. Basically, it was virtue signaling, doing symbolic action, when the problem was them not enforcing the existing standards not that those standards were too low in the first place!



3) The same thing is supposed to be true for driving Uber and Lyft. In theory you are supposed to be native or Green card, but I don't think they got any way to enforce it and many illegals drive for those companies. My best friend was a full-time driver for 3 years prior to Covid, he did not think it was a big problem due to overall demand for the service. But as a driver you are given bonuses based on scarcity and demand, if there are less drivers around that does help you get more money. And yes, that was another thing, I was seriously considering too for myself as far as survival jobs went before Covid.




4) An unofficial caste system. One thing I have noticed since I've been a kid is nearly all the hotel and motel maids on the west coast have been Latino. I kind of just accepted that, unconsciously. It wasn't until 2014 when I moved to North Carolina for over 5 years where I realize this was not a given. There are in fact working class Whites and Blacks that want these kinds of jobs that we seem to be unofficially ceding over to Latinos.

But this is not the only area, The same goes for many other related jobs like Landscaping and parking lot cleaning (people that drive those street sweeping vehicles in parking lots to keep them clean of trash, leaves etc.). These sorts of jobs likewise have been unofficially ceded to Latinos on the West Coast but on the east coast there are still poor Whites and Blacks that are happy to do them. They are however being slowly forced out by the competition of ever-increasing illegal Latin's.
 
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Steven Crowder has a video for years where he tried to recruit some illegals at a Home Depot or similar place to do some day work for $10 cash an hour. This was a long time ago, before Covid inflation, Ukraine war inflation., probably around 2010-2012
In some parts of Texas they've wised up since then. They want what legals want + pick them up + drop them back off + buy them lunch. Supply and demand. One problem with this is that labor is subject to the laws of supply and demand, just like any other commodity. Construction workers depend on making good money during the booms, to carry them through the lean times, when they have to work for less money. Illegals take away good wages from Americans by saturating the labor market. They drive up the cost of rental property; and they increase the tax burden of people who are here legally.
 
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In some parts of Texas they've wised up since then. They want what legals want + pick them up + drop them back off + buy them lunch. Supply and demand. One problem with this is that labor is subject to the laws of supply and demand, just like any other commodity. Construction workers depend on making good money during the booms, to carry them through the lean times, when they have to work for less money. Illegals take away good wages from Americans by saturating the labor market; and they increase the tax burden of people who are here legally.

Yeah, I have seen that a lot myself.


It is interesting that sometimes the locals can exceed expectations when used. I worked security at a construction site of an apartment complex that was being retrofit to meet building standards. The place was across the street from the University of North Carolina in northern Charolotte. The place had to be refurbished because some college kids had a big spring break party and overloaded the upstairs apartment with four times more people than it was built for, and the place began to buckle. After they inspected it, they however realized that a lot of the place was not up to the existing building code, so they had to retrofit it with new braces etc.


Anyway, we had lots of Latino's working the place as both carpenters and various helpers (the people who cart away debris, sweep up, move tools and building materials). You had a lot of Latin men working as carpenters, while Latin females as the helper workers. But for months we had lots of Little problems.

1) There was a lot of ongoing theft that we constantly had to police.


2) There were occasional problems where people misread or misunderstood directions originally in English writing or spoken language, which caused things like doors, bathtubs, windows being installed in the wrong place or incorrectly. Where the problem had to be fixed before you moved on.


3) The last straw that broke the camel's back was fraternization among the male and female contractors where there were reports of couples having sex in stairways. There was event that happened when the head boss had an inspector in the area that got was the straw that broke the camel's back. There was also another big event where it was figured out that a day worker was secretly living in one of the apartments. You could tell by the trash, and what cinched it was him pooping in the toilet that was not yet hooked up to the water line.


Anyway, the boss got so mad he canned all the foreign labor that had worked on the project for many months. He opted to have native workers only and stopped the project a few days to a week while they recruited. So, we had workers from all over the South Some of the people working on the project came from over 1000 away from states like Luisanna.



But it worked like a charm. Not only did it fix the language problem and mistakes made by it but the problem of theft also seemed to go away too, along with the cringe stuff like people having sex in staircases. The only thing we sort of had to watch for is people wanting to sleep on cite because of insurance reasons rather than them doing something like pooping in uninstalled toilets.
 
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Illegals take away good wages from Americans by saturating the labor market.
Agree, I've seen this myself in construction.
They drive up the cost of rental property;
True, there are only so many affordable units available.
and they increase the tax burden of people who are here legally.
This one I don't understand what taxes you are referring to and how they increase the burden.
 
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This one I don't understand what taxes you are referring to and how they increase the burden.
Here is just one example; but a very costly one.

Some of these people rent apartments, and it's wall to wall mattresses inside, in every room. Multiple families living there. They send their children to school. This means that the tax payers have build more schools, and provide more school buses. This raises local property taxes. I'm not talking about a few children. In my county there is a huge chunk of the population that doesn't speak English. In El Paso, one might even need to visit more than one grocery store to find anyone who speaks English.
 
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4) An unofficial caste system. One thing I have noticed since I've been a kid is nearly all the hotel and motel maids on the west coast have been Latino. I kind of just accepted that, unconsciously. It wasn't until 2014 when I moved to North Carolina for over 5 years where I realize this was not a given. There are in fact working class Whites and Blacks that want these kinds of jobs that we seem to be unofficially ceding over to Latinos.

Do the Latino maids consider it a "caste system"?

Full disclosure, my spouse, who is Latina, worked as a Hotel Manager/Supervisor for several years here in Arizona. Most of the staff were from Mexico or other Latin American countries. On the rare occasion a non-latino was hired, they didn't last 1 month and did a lousy job. There's a reason Latino's are hired (and other immigrants): They know the value of hard work and the dollar. It's also true that most were not working here legally, and they kept wages low. Only know, in the post covid era, are hotel wages rising and still, hotels can't find enough workers....
 
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Here is just one example; but a very costly one.

Some of these people rent apartments, and it's wall to wall mattresses inside, in every room. Multiple families living there. They send their children to school. This means that the tax payers have build more schools, and provide more school buses. This raises local property taxes. I'm not talking about a few children. In my county there is a huge chunk of the population that doesn't speak English. In El Paso, one might even need to visit more than one grocery store to find anyone who speaks English.
Yes, that has been a huge chunck of the school problem and why our public schools do not compete with the rest of the world. Much of the world is built around one native language, or in places like Canada they had French as the language of Quebec and a secondary language of the country for centuries. Meanwhile, we think we can just accept people willy-nilly into our public schools that already have other issues yet are surprised when our schools lag behind the rest of the world.



As a person that once also spent an inordinate amount of time in ER rooms due to once acting as a living assistant to a Hypochondriac, I can say this also impacts our Health Care system to and was a huge motivation for forcing Obamacare down our throats. (The number of illegals using the ER as their primary care source and not paying for it). I spent many of my evenings in an ER room into the wee hours of the morning in San Jose, California in 2003-2004 at the main public hospital and half the place was speaking Spanish and the place was packed due to the amount of traffic it got. I'm sure the average waiting time in many places is up by 2 hours with all the illegal immigration.
 
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Here is just one example; but a very costly one.

Some of these people rent apartments, and it's wall to wall mattresses inside, in every room. Multiple families living there. They send their children to school. This means that the tax payers have build more schools, and provide more school buses. This raises local property taxes. I'm not talking about a few children. In my county there is a huge chunk of the population that doesn't speak English. In El Paso, one might even need to visit more than one grocery store to find anyone who speaks English.
Yes, more people means more accommodations must be made for schools, police, fire, water, etc, etc. But those people go to work and they pay income taxes, state taxes, county taxes, city taxes, sales taxes, and employee taxes (social security and medicare). They buy goods and services just like anyone else.

If they aren't working then they aren't keeping wages down.
Living together is very common among all immigrants. They do this to help each other get established in small businesses, secure jobs, and even buy property one family at a time. Green carders do the same living together, sharing a vehicle, etc. so that they can send money home to their families where they will return to.

I agree it must be annoying to live in the US and not be able to walk in any common business and not find anyone who speaks English.
 
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