Today at 09:55 AM Andrew said this in Post #26
but the truths are the same.
Christians can expect to suffer persecution for being good Christians. That is Biblical suffering as spoken of by Peter and Paul. But Christians shld not expect to suffer sickness, lack, accidents and premature deaths like that's supposed to be God's doing and God's 'good' plans. The latter type of sufferings of cse still happens, that's where WOF comes in to deal with these things so that the Christian can walk victorious in Christ.
But still I have not seen that this has been shown through scripture.
That said, the devil can throw lemons and eggs at you but God can always turn them into omelette and lemonade for you but that doesnt mean we start saying God threw the lemons and eggs at us in the first place. That is blasphemous.
First I said that God allows things to come into our lives to get us closer to him. He allows things to happen to us to bring us closer to him not that he causes things directly. Also Satan does not cause tornados or earthquakes or anything like that. God does and it is fine because of sin. Also like you said everything works out for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose.
do you have scripture for this?
Here is just some but the whole Bible is about giving praise to God and getting us to do it.
Matt 22:36-37
36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?"
37 And He said to him, "YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'
(NAU)
What is the greatest commandment of the law? To love and give honor and praise to God. So the OT is all about giving praise to God.
Deut 5:7-11
7 "You shall have no other gods before Me.
8 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, {or} any likeness {of} what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
9 "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth {generations} of those who hate Me,
10 but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
11 "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain.
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The first of the ten commandments are about God and his name and that his name should be praise and honored. That he should be worshipped only.
Phil 2:8-11
8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,
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so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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John 11:4
4 But when Jesus heard {this} He said, "This sickness is not to end in death, but for the glory of God, so that the Son of God may be glorified by it."
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man was sick so that God would get glory.
1 Cor 10:31
31 Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
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We should do all things for his glory.
2 Cor 1:20
20 For as many as are the promises of God, in Him they are yes; therefore also through Him is our Amen to the glory of God through us.
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WE have promises from God so that he can get glory.
2 Cor 4:15
15 For all things {are} for your sakes, so that the grace which is spreading to more and more people may cause the giving of thanks to abound to the glory of God.
(NAU)
All things are for our sakes so that we can give glory to God.