Seeing the Day Approaching.

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Wow. I had no idea the gay agenda was even encroaching on the Southern Baptists now. I wouldn't have expected that.


It's all related, and thank you for your informative posts. I was reading through your link, and if trends continue it suggests that society will almost universally consider homosexuality as morally acceptable by 2040. It jumped from only 40% to over 70% in just two decades, with no signs of letting up.

A friend of mine had some dreams a few years back which suggested that eventually even the Catholic church would condone homosexuality, and if all of society gets to that place within the next two decades, one wonders how they would not relent on their long-held position on it; most churches, in fact.

All that will be left will be those who still hold to the clear meaning of scripture on the issue, and because there are some rather sophisticated (but false) interpretations on the passages that teach against the practice, the remaining few who still teach it to be a sin will be vilified as "ignorant homophobes" filled with nothing but "hate."

Should be interesting, in a not-so-interesting sort of way. I know what my stand is because I know the word of God, and it won't be changing, no matter what churches start teaching it is morally acceptable or not.

A friend of mine told me that homosexuality back in our days of the 1980s was about 1% of the population, and now some 10-20% identify as non-heterosexual, whether it be homosexual, bisexual, trans-sexual, pan-sexual, etc. Something is going terribly wrong because there is no way that high a percentage of homosexuals would be cited today were our secular society not only failing to condemn it, but celebrating it. Its to me a sign the end is near.

I was Troop Chaplain and Assistant Scoutmaster when the Boy Scouts voted to allow openly gay children in, then they allowed gay adult leaders, and now even girls can get into Boy Scouts. I resigned the day the vote went through as did a bunch of other managers where I worked.
 
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Hi HIH,

Rome is NOT the religion of the world that the 10 kings destroy. (Rev. 17: 16)

You have just been talking about this religion - respect (all religions the same), tolerate (all sexual perversions), be inclusive of all..... etc etc. That is the UN`s moral `laws` which have permeated every aspect of society even man`s religious institutions.

Also the `fig tree` we know is Israel and that generation the Lord talks about is fast coming to an end. Thus it will be in our life time that the Lord comes. Early next year or at latest the year after.

All the ducks are lining up.

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Not early next year... but at the END of the year.
BTW, you are right about the fig tree and there being few of us left.


Mar 13:20
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved:
but for the ELECT'S sake, whom He hath CHOSEN, He hath shortened the days.


And, always remember, Jesus PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see all these things"
(the fulfillment of all His Great Tribulation prophecies) before He Returns [Mat 24:33]


In fact, the Last Saints preaching about the fulfillment of all Great Tribulation / Revelation Beast
prophecies is, in and of itself, one of the last "signs" of the end - since it happens
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound" [Rev 10:7-11]


Only Judgment happens AFTER the Seventh Trumpet sounds.
As it "begins to sound" the Last Saints preach "closed-up" and "sealed" mysteries
(about Daniel's prophecies) which are only revealed at the "time of the end" [Dan 12:8-10]
Correct understanding of Daniel's prophecies is KEY to understanding the end [Mat 24:15]


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Details of the anti-Christ –


His nationality – Assyrian. (Isa. 31: 8 Micah 5: 5)

The region he comes from – the Ancient Assyrian Empire. (Dan. 11: 35 – 43)

Leader of Ancient Assyrian region - Iraq, Syria & Jordan. (Dan. 7: 8)

Leader of Islamic Federation – 10 kings of Islam. (Dan. 7: 8, Rev. 17: 12)

He rules the world – (Rev. 16: 13 & 14, 19: 19)

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Of course, the BIBLE PROMISES the truth about Daniel's prophecies,
including the identity of his four Kingdoms/Beasts, would remain "closed-up" and "sealed"
until the Last Saints "shall understand" at the "time of the end". [Dan 12:8-10]


Your theory about the "Little Horn" and Daniel's Beast MUST BE WRONG
because that theory was developed while the Truth of Daniel's prophecies
remained "closed-up" and "sealed".


They are just a private interpretation which contradicts Scripture and, therefore,
is proven to be incorrect.


Also... yes, there is more:
Dan 7:11-12 completely destroys your theory.


It PROMISES that, after the destruction of the fourth beast (an Islamic Federation in your theory)
AFTER it is "given to the burning flame"... aka "cast alive into the Lake-of-Fire" [Rev 19:20]
THEN the other Kingdoms/Beasts (Babylon and Persia and Greece - whatever)
continue to exist on earth for a period the Bible specifically NAMES
as the "Season and Time".


Dan 7:11-12 destroys your theory.


Dan 7:11-12
I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the [Little]horn spake:
I beheld even till the [fourth] beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given
to the burning flame. [aka the Lake of Fire] As concerning the rest of the beasts,
they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged
for a Season and Time.


Unless you are willing to teach that PEOPLE exist on earth for a "Season and Time"
after the fourth beast/kingdom is "cast alive into the Lake of Fire" or the "Burning Flame"...
then you will have to come up with a NEW theory about the identity of the four Beasts.


I am not aware of any church or theologian teaching PEOPLE exist on earth for a period
NAMED the "Season and Time".... AFTER the fourth Beast has been destroyed
in the "Burning Flame" [Dan 7:11-12] or the "Lake of Fire". [Rev 19:20]


No church/theologian in history (to my knowledge) ever taught such a thing.
Clearly YOU do not teach about such an event AFTER the Islamic Federation?!?


Hint:
The Beasts represent spiritual "kingdoms"... not physical/political kingdoms.


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btw, for anyone wondering, that coiled gold colored rope on the General's right shoulder - it a ceremonial
lanyard. A lanyard is a small diameter rope that is used in artillery to yank on that causes a striker to strike a primer that fires the artillery round. The striker is like a hammer on a handgun.

I was in the U.S army artillery, a long, long time ago for three years, a 155mm self propelled howitzer unit - stationed in Germany no less.... is how I know what lanyards are. In our dress greens, we had ceremonial lanyards to. So anytime you see a military person with a coiled rope on his shoulder, it is an indication that he/she was involved with the artillery.
 
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If you think that Rome is Daniel's fourth beast then you must believe that people exist on earth
for a period NAMED the "Season and Time" after the destruction of the fourth beast (rome).
Do you teach people exist on earth AFTER the destruction of the fourth beast?

Greetings, 5th Kingdom.

No, I don't think that actually. Completely to the contrary. But unfortunately this particular subject matter is so involved that I usually pass on getting into discussing it all these days.

Maybe later, however.

God bless, and thanks for the post.
- H
 
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Of course, the BIBLE PROMISES the truth about Daniel's prophecies,
including the identity of his four Kingdoms/Beasts, would remain "closed-up" and "sealed"
until the Last Saints "shall understand" at the "time of the end". [Dan 12:8-10]


Your theory about the "Little Horn" and Daniel's Beast MUST BE WRONG
because that theory was developed while the Truth of Daniel's prophecies
remained "closed-up" and "sealed".


They are just a private interpretation which contradicts Scripture and, therefore,
is proven to be incorrect.


Also... yes, there is more:
Dan 7:11-12 completely destroys your theory.


It PROMISES that, after the destruction of the fourth beast (an Islamic Federation in your theory)
AFTER it is "given to the burning flame"... aka "cast alive into the Lake-of-Fire" [Rev 19:20]
THEN the other Kingdoms/Beasts (Babylon and Persia and Greece - whatever)
continue to exist on earth for a period the Bible specifically NAMES
as the "Season and Time".


Dan 7:11-12 destroys your theory.


Dan 7:11-12
I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the [Little]horn spake:
I beheld even till the [fourth] beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given
to the burning flame. [aka the Lake of Fire] As concerning the rest of the beasts,
they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged
for a Season and Time.



Unless you are willing to teach that PEOPLE exist on earth for a "Season and Time"
after the fourth beast/kingdom is "cast alive into the Lake of Fire" or the "Burning Flame"...
then you will have to come up with a NEW theory about the identity of the four Beasts.


I am not aware of any church or theologian teaching PEOPLE exist on earth for a period
NAMED the "Season and Time".... AFTER the fourth Beast has been destroyed
in the "Burning Flame" [Dan 7:11-12] or the "Lake of Fire". [Rev 19:20]


No church/theologian in history (to my knowledge) ever taught such a thing.
Clearly YOU do not teach about such an event AFTER the Islamic Federation?!?


Hint:
The Beasts represent spiritual "kingdoms"... not physical/political kingdoms.


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Hi 5th kingdom,

Must have missed your comment, sorry. Thank you for replying in such detail.

Remember that NO mention of the Body of Christ is in the Old Testament. It was a revelation given to the apostle Paul. (Eph. 3: 3 - 5) The OT concerns Israel and the nations and THEIR future.

I don`t believe those beastly Federations of Dan. 7 are historic, because as you so rightly point out how can their lives be prolonged, as God`s word says. (Dan. 7: 12)

Those `beastly Federations are in our time, for we see the final Gentile Global Government forming.
 
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