Judaism and SDA, physicians, heal on sabbath ?

Part 1.




From a Judaism website:



"Doctors working on Shabbat



Next question, is one allowed to transgress the Shabbos to heal a Goy? Technically no. However the Chachamim stressed that if they knew this they would kill us, therefore it is in our best interest to heal them ("משום איבה"). I fear to add this but Halacha is just that.

So, can one heal an animal on Shabbos? Basically no. However, one can make the animal comfortable until a doctor can administer to the animal."




From Adventist UK website:




"The following applications of Sabbath observance principles are recommended:

(a) Emergency Medical Care

Provide emergency care willingly and cheerfully whenever needed with high levels of excellence.
However, Adventist institutions, physicians, dentists and other caring-personnel should refrain from
carrying out work on the Sabbath which can safely be left until another day.


(b) Discontinuation of routine activities

Discontinue all routine activities that could be postponed. Usually this means a complete closing of
those facilities and departments not immediately related to patient care, and the maintenance of a
minimum number of qualified people in other departments to handle emergencies.

(c) Postponement of non-essential services
Postpone non-urgent diagnostic and therapeutic services. Decisions as to what is necessary or of an
emergency nature should be made by the attending physician.


SABBATH WORK IN NON-SDA HOSPITALS AND OTHER HEALTH-CARE FACILTITIES


"The law forbids secular labour on the rest day of the Lord; the toil that gains a livelihood must cease; no
labour for worldly pleasure or profit is lawful upon that day; but as God ceased His labour of creating, and
rested upon the Sabbath and blessed it, so man is to leave the occupations of his daily life, and devote
those sacred hours to healthful rest, to worship, and to holy deeds." The Desire of Ages, p. 207.

(b) Agreeable duties during Sabbath hours

Where work schedules or other factors make this impossible, they make very clear the types of duty
they are willing to perform on the Sabbath in providing necessary medical and hygienic care of the
patient and his environment in emergency procedures, and in similar service.


(c) Loyalty to God

Where the above conditions cannot be met, our members should make loyalty to God's requirements
paramount. In these circumstances they should seek advice from their church pastor or the local
conference/mission.



5. MORAL DECISIONS REGARDING SABBATH OBSERVANCE


A church official should make efforts to contact the organisation in which an Adventist member is
experiencing Sabbath problems, to clarify the reasons why such a member is refusing to carry out certain
duties on their Sabbath day. Great willingness, however, should be shown to sacrifice privileges such as
vacation time in exchange for Sabbath privileges."





Before 2000 years ago, it seems the law was more strict for the Jews of Israel, for a physician not to be working on the sabbath, or anyone working ( secular) work, that apparently changed with revisions of the law, and how the Jews were not allowed to defend themselves to fight on sabbath, to be allowed to defend their lives on sabbath, and how anything that saved life was allowed, such as physicians permitted to do procedures which would save life, or if their intervention would let someone die, if they were unable to help.

The SDA church took the same views of course, that all non life saving, non essential medical care, not be undertaken on sabbath, to leave non essential medical healing to the next day, to let someone else do those healings on sabbath day, that is a non Adventist.

Part 2.



Pay attention now, to the revelations of the Lord.

Israel was required not to seek the Lord by these same laws they are yet under ( and therefore not under faith) they were required to return to the Lord, to be healed of the hurt, which is to be done by two days of reviving, and the third day rising, and the third day living in His sight.

Jesus gave word to Herod, how the devils are to be cast out ( of the kingdom of heaven) by Jesus ( on the preparation day and on the sabbath day) doing cures, ( healing us) those two days, and that third day being perfected.

The Son of man was three days in the heart of the heart and did rise the third day...






Hosea 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.






The harvest was missed by Israel ( in the law) they were not saved.

Israel, the daughter of the people of the Lord, were hurt, and there was no physician in Gilead to give health to the daughter of His people to be recovered.

Jesus shows that harvest ( of faith) and how more labourers ( healers/physicians) are needed to help with Christ the Lord of the harvest.

Jesus Christ is that physician, and the sick had need of Jesus that physician, who called the sinner to repentance...





Jeremiah 8:20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.
21 For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken hold on me.
22 Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?

Luke 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

Luke 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.







Luke the beloved physician joined Jesus from the law, to be of faith. Luke now in the ministry heals as Jesus heals..





Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.

2 Timothy 4:11 Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.






The secrets of the old testament are revealed, look at who is virtuous, she will do him good ( and not evil on any day) all the days of her life.

The Messiah, will know to refuse the evil, and to choose the good by the sweetness taken ( the Holy Ghost anointing)...




Proverbs 31:10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.





Now compare Israel, children in whom is no faith, forward foolish and sottish, with none understanding, they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Can Israel accustomed to doing evil, do good ?

God told Israel, to seek good, and not evil, that they may live ( to live in the commandments of the Lord)

For Israel to hate the evil, and to love the good, to establish judgment, so the Lord may be gracious to the remnant of Joseph.

But Israel did hate the good, and they did love the evil...






Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Amos 5:14 Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the Lord, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken.

Amos 5:15 Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the Lord God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

Micah 3:2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;





Now Jesus brought that knowledge of good, and the god trees of the Lord bring forth good, and the corrupt trees ( of satan) bring forth evil. The good can only bring good, and the evil can only do corruption. The generation of Israel being evil, could not speak good things.

Jesus also shows the resurrection of life and the resurrection of damnation, the ones who did good go to life, and the ones who did evil go to death ( and damnation)..






Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Matthew 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.




Apostle Paul speaks how the good cannot be done, and the evil is done. It is the law, that evil is present, preventing the doing of good ( by Israel in the law)

Now the ones of faith abhor the evil, and cleave to what is good ( doing).

To be wise unto that which is good ( by the knowledge and faith of Christ in the Gospel) and to be simple concerning what is evil.

Ever following what is good, to all men, to eschew evil ( hate evil) and to do good, to seek peace and ensue it.

To not follow what is evil ( doing) but that which is good, as we will see the example of God in Christ is to do good to be of God, and he that does evil ( doing differently than Jesus Christ as we shall see what is done by HIm has not seen God ( they know not Christ)






Romans 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

Romans 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Romans 12:9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Romans 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

1 Peter 3:11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.

3 John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

Part 3.




Israel is represented by the Pharisees ( the evil generation that cannot know good, as they know not God and know not faith)

Jesus asking if it is lawful to heal on the sabbath days ?

We know SDA doctors and doctors in Judaism prefer to heal not on sabbath days.

The man had a withered hand ( none life threatening) and Jesus has to ask the same Pharisees, if it is lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil ?

The Pharisees of Israel we see could not answer Jesus ( by hardness of heart) because even unto this day, Judaism and SDA both disagree that it is lawful to do good on the sabbath days, and to heal when it is non life threatening....






Matthew 129 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

Mark 3: 1 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand.
2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.
3 And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth.
4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
6 And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.


Luke 6:6 And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered.
7 And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him.
8 But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.
9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?
10 And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
11 And they were filled with madness; and communed one with another what they might do to Jesus.




On this occasion, it is a woman which had a spirit of infirmity ( Jesus casts out the spirits of evil that caused infirmity) and Jesus lays His hands on her and heals her.

Jesus not saving life ( non life threatening) on the sabbath day, completely infuriates the Jews of the synagogue, ( as Jesus even heals in their synagogue on the sabbath day in front of them all)

Jesus shows to them how it is satan that has bound the woman all those years, and Jesus had come to release the bonds of satan, on the very sabbath days.

The leader of the synagogue gave rules, that healing on the sabbath is wrong, ( as state the Jews of Judaism and SDA until this day also)...






Luke 13:10 And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.
11 And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.
12 And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity.
13 And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.
14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
17 And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed: and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him.







Here is more revelations regarding the infirmity of the people healed.


Jesus ( our true high priest) took upon Himself our infirmities and bare our sicknesses.


The high priest offered sacrifices for sins, as he himself was also filled with infirmities.

Jesus did not need as those high priests to offer up sacrifices, as He offered up Himself in sacrifice.

The law was by making high priests which have infirmity, but the word of promise made the Son who is consecrated ( sanctified) for evermore...





Matthew 8:17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Hebrews 5:1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.
3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.

Hebrews 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.





Another non life threatening healing, and the Pharisees we see never answer to Jesus if it is right or wrong to heal ?

Neither could the Pharisees answer why they are hypocrites, to do some form of healing themselves on the sabbath ( when it is for their own good)...





Luke 14:1 And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.
2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy.
3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?
4 And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go;
5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?
6 And they could not answer him again to these things.



This is an important revelation of Jesus for us.

Again a man having infirmity for many years, lay at a place in Jerusalem, where a pool in any day being troubled, could heal people, making them whole, of whatever disease they had ( it did not have to be life threatening, as healing is healing to God)

The man was impotent ( unable to walk) and Jesus healed him and commanded also to take up his bed.

The Jews spoke with the cured man, and said it was not lawful for him to take up his bed, as it was the sabbath day. ( the Jews disagree of Jesus making men whole on the sabbath when it is non life threatening as the SDA's also practice no healing on sabbath day and avoid it, as their own websites state)..






John 5:3 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.
4 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.
9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.
11 He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk.
12 Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk?
13 And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place.
14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
15 The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole.
16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.





Jesus spoke to the Jews who He shows, they keep no laws at all.

Jesus again shows how Moses gave circumcision of the fathers, and not of the law, and they then on sabbath day do that circumcision ( that was given of he fathers in faith) and Jesus makes men whole also on the sabbath to keep the righteousness of the law, and the Jews then are to judge righteously( Jesus Christ is the true circumcision in the Spirit and not in the letter of the law of Moses and Israel, that kills)...





John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee?
21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.
22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.




Pharisees are dishonest, and cannot speak good or truly. Their swords are for deception only.

Jesus this time anoints the blind mans eyes, on the sabbath day, and the Pharisees of course concluded that Jesus is not of God, because He kept not the sabbath to not heal as a physician on the sabbath day, ( Judaism and SDA's has not changed that opinion according to their own printed statements that even oppose what their own Messiah did good on every sabbath of healing whatever infirmity and rested not, neither did His disciples rest from healing and miracles of God, on each and every sabbath and on every day, the same.)....





John 9:10 Therefore said they unto him, How were thine eyes opened?
11 He answered and said, A man that is called Jesus made clay, and anointed mine eyes, and said unto me, Go to the pool of Siloam, and wash: and I went and washed, and I received sight.
12 Then said they unto him, Where is he? He said, I know not.
13 They brought to the Pharisees him that aforetime was blind.
14 And it was the sabbath day when Jesus made the clay, and opened his eyes.
15 Then again the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. He said unto them, He put clay upon mine eyes, and I washed, and do see.
16 Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.

https://adventist.uk/fileadmin/shar...ATH-OBSERVANCE-AND-THE-MEDICAL-PROFESSION.pdf



"Adventist institutions, physicians, dentists and other caring-personnel should refrain from
carrying out work on the Sabbath which can safely be left until another day."



BobRyan:


"doing good on the Sabbath" including providing medicine and necessary care to patients that were not "about to die if they do not get a treatment".




There are rules of course for Adventists on sabbath regarding medical staff/workers.


It is easy to understand in that religion, that the rules were altered before SDA of the 1800's, as the Jews in Judaism to make exceptions to their own laws, in 100-200 CE, to allow work on sabbath that was saving life.


But to avoid all other work, it is easy to understand, that Judaism and SDA do give guidelines, to not do non essential, ( life threatening) work on sabbath which can be left to another day ( and avoided )




It also was in this thread, the Jews could not and never did answer Jesus, was it lawful to do good or evil on sabbath ?


It was also revealed why they were unable to answer, as Jesus came to give knowledge ( faith) to know what good was, which was doing good in every way on sabbath.


That is the whole point of this thread, how sabbath was for doing good in every way, the same as any other day.

Jesus did good, ( well) each and every day, healing, helping, working the works of God.

Jesus sent the disciples to do all they saw in Him.

The Jews in Judaism, did not ( and do not) follow the example of Jesus and the Apostles of the Lord ( they cease from all healing on sabbath, if it can be avoided. It would make no sense otherwise, as we saw Israel did not agree to Jesus healing and helping in every way on sabbath, so why would that have changed without faith in Christ.

SDA, also insist Jesus keeps sabbath, by resting, how could He do that when He has shown it is lawful to do good on sabbath, not evil, and how knowing to do good, and dong it not ( healing non essential non life threatening on all and every day) to them it is sin.


Jesus and the disciples, did on sabbath, what they did on non sabbath, as they had no secular lives, to follow Jesus is to leave that secular life, as Christ left being carpenter to be Messiah at age 30, and as the disciples Peter James, and John, left being fishermen, at a similar age to Jesus and at the same time, to be fishers of men.


If we do not lose our life the same as them ( as we see Apostle Paul as example to follow of loosing all things to suffer with Christ and gain the knowledge of salvation, we are following men's ideas and men's subtle excuses, which means we are following nothing at all.




James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.