Thanks for your reply.
I am not saying there was a problem with God, I am saying there are problems with the text, and our view of it.
That is human logic interfering with the text. The text itself is quite simple.
Genesis 1:5
God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Is there anything difficult in there? I should think that sentence is easy enough for an 8 year old child to understand.
People keep putting their own logic, reasoning, intellect before God, before what the text says.
The issue is self not the text. People have this burning need to make things to make sense to their intellect rather than simply trusting. But the very nature of a miracle is it doesn't make sense, it defies all logic and reasoning.
There is an OT text that speaks about the sun standing still. This is quite remarkable and worthy of writing about.
That is quite the verse I agree. Again there is no way of knowing how God did that, only that he did. We can speculate and put forward ideas, but at the end of the day we are looking at another act of God that defies logic. We can either put our logic first and end up saying it doesn't mean what it says it means or simply trust that it did.
But we have no explanation in the text of Genesis chapter one for how the first day could be measured by a sundown and sunrise when the sun had yet to be created.
No we don't, does that matter?
This wanting an explanation is your intellect.
God gave us our intellect, but the intellect wasn't given for spiritual matters. Faith isn't your mind engaging and having something make logical sense and then you gain faith, it's your spirit. Belief in something isn't the same as faith.
Does Jesus raising on the third day make logical sense? Do you have a well thought out reason for how it happened or do you simply have faith that it did? That faith needs to extend past the resurrection of Jesus into all the things God shows us. Be it healing the blind to talking donkeys to the sun standing still.
Speculation is fine so long as it doesn't become a stumbling block. Don't let your intellect become a stumbling block to your faith.
Even you agree that the "light" came from something other than the sun. But hopefully neither of us would claim an actual sunset and sunrise without a created sun.
Why not?
You do realize that the wording sunrise and sunset are only figurative language?
If the earth is a sphere (I honestly don't care if its round, flat or a potato) then the sun does not actually rise and set at all.
As I said, what I said was pure speculation. Remember also that God is not held in time like we are so
perhaps the sun was there but also not there due to some time warp. My real guess is that the truth is so far out of our ability to even comprehend that its nothing we can even formulate into an idea.
If God says that there was a 'sunset' and a 'sunrise' then I will have faith that there was. I am quite sure that when we see God we will understand.
And again, this is a problem with the text, not with God. It seems that some people confuse the two, as if they are one and the same. The Bible is not God. (or shouldn't be a god)
Scripture is not God but it is God's breathed word to us. .
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
Hebrews 4:12
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Romans 10:17
Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.
Scripture does not claim to be a good book full of truth and teaching, it claims to be God's breathed word that is living and can divide between soul and spirit.