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I can't keep up with this anymore. I've tried. Honestly, I have. And I just can't keep up with the latest inclusivity initialism. Am I the only one who is struggling to keep track of the latest woke descriptors? I thought the + symbol was introduced to stop the initialism getting any longer, but since then more letters (and a number) have been added to both ends of the initialism.

'Headbutting a keyboard is now a sexuality': Justin Trudeau is mocked for using the latest sexual identities acronym 2SLGBTQQIA+

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I can't keep up with this anymore. I've tried. Honestly, I have. And I just can't keep up with the latest inclusivity initialism. Am I the only one who is struggling to keep track of the latest woke descriptors? I thought the + symbol was introduced to stop the initialism getting any longer, but since then more letters (and a number) have been added to both ends of the initialism.

Some people expand it although I have never seen anyone get upset if you use the short version which is what I use, LGBT+ or LGBTQ+ (mainly because I think the letter 'Q' is pretty). Honestly I think whatever intern Tweeted this was just trolling.
 
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That particular acronym appears in Government of Canada documents, hence why it's being used.

Though I do agree that such an acronym is a getting a bit out of hand, especially since there are variations on it and nothing is consistent. At my own organization, I've seen similar acronyms (particularly with respect to gender neutral washrooms), but it does create confusion when people aren't aware of what those different letters mean.

What we really need is a blanket term to cover gender identity/sexuality without having to resort to alphabet soup.
 
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That particular acronym appears in Government of Canada documents, hence why it's being used.

Though I do agree that such an acronym is a getting a bit out of hand, especially since there are variations on it and nothing is consistent. At my own organization, I've seen similar acronyms (particularly with respect to gender neutral washrooms), but it does create confusion when people aren't aware of what those different letters mean.

What we really need is a blanket term to cover gender identity/sexuality without having to resort to alphabet soup.

They do...LBTQIA+ the plus is for anything and everything. This makes as much sense as Latinx. Latin is gender neutral already, whereas Latina is feminine and Latino is masculine.
 
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They do...LBTQIA+ the plus is for anything and everything. This makes as much sense as Latinx. Latin is gender neutral already, whereas Latina is feminine and Latino is masculine.
Yeah, I thought the Q stood for queer(whatever that means:rolleyes:) and it represented any sexual identity that was not hetero.
 
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Yeah, I thought the Q stood for queer(whatever that means:rolleyes:) and it represented any sexual identity that was not hetero.

True, I didn't think of that. Then again, I'm not a part of the movement so...
 
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Latinx bothers me than any of this other stuff, because it's based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how language works -- namely that grammatical gender is the same as or always a reference to/congruent with biological sex. Y'know, like how tables have XX chromosomes and female sex organs in Spain, but male sex organs in Russia. :rolleyes:
 
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I can't keep up with this anymore. I've tried. Honestly, I have. And I just can't keep up with the latest inclusivity initialism. Am I the only one who is struggling to keep track of the latest woke descriptors? I thought the + symbol was introduced to stop the initialism getting any longer, but since then more letters (and a number) have been added to both ends of the initialism.

'Headbutting a keyboard is now a sexuality': Justin Trudeau is mocked for using the latest sexual identities acronym 2SLGBTQQIA+

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I live in a super queer city and no one uses that term. I’m literally in queer woke central here. No one expects you to use it. I just use the term "queer community."
 
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They do...LBTQIA+ the plus is for anything and everything. This makes as much sense as Latinx. Latin is gender neutral already, whereas Latina is feminine and Latino is masculine.
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I am definitely an ally for LGBTQ+ but dang, I REALLY have to laugh when there are many european language that are STEEPED and cannot be seperated from gender expression. Leave em be.

As for the OP, I also, as an ally, have moments of frustration. Being inclusive is important but it is not practical to be listing every oppressed minority every time you want to make large supportive comments.

And the gender identification sometimes, to me, is just too much forme to bother with. So yeah. If you want to identify as an elephant, have at 'er, I just don't care. I won't talk about having sex with my wife or what I identify with if you do the same.
 
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I do like 2S though. That one refers to the First Nations understanding that some folks have both the "spirit" of a man and a woman. We just elected our first 2S person here in Edmonton Alberta. I think THAT is the last addition to LGBQT that I would include. After that, it gets burdensome for me.
 
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I can't keep up with this anymore. I've tried. Honestly, I have. And I just can't keep up with the latest inclusivity initialism. Am I the only one who is struggling to keep track of the latest woke descriptors? I thought the + symbol was introduced to stop the initialism getting any longer, but since then more letters (and a number) have been added to both ends of the initialism.

'Headbutting a keyboard is now a sexuality': Justin Trudeau is mocked for using the latest sexual identities acronym 2SLGBTQQIA+

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Who cares? I just call people " he" or ,"she".
 
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I think THAT is the last addition to LGBQT that I would include. After that, it gets burdensome for me.
It will never be the last, because that's the nature of wokeism.

Once someone comes up with a new letter, or combination of letters and/or numbers, then those who wish to be woke and right-on are duty-bound to include it. If you ignore the newly invented oppressed group, then someone somewhere is going to claim their virtue-signalling points by calling you out for ignoring that group. At best, you might be publicly accused on Twitter of being phobic about the newly invented group. At worst, a twitter pile on might occur, and then you'll have to issue a grovelling apology, and make a mental note to be more careful next time.

I'm glad I don't use Twitter and Facebook. The potential opportunities for slipping up and incurring the wrath of the mob seem endless. It must feel absolutely exhausting if you're trying really hard to be woke, and then you make a mistake because you didn't give full acknowledgement to some oppressed group.

What we really need is a blanket term to cover gender identity/sexuality without having to resort to alphabet soup.
Some joker commenting below the line at the Mail has already suggested a term to cover all of the oppressed groups:

NWNS (Not White Not Straight)

They do...LBTQIA+ the plus is for anything and everything. This makes as much sense as Latinx. Latin is gender neutral already, whereas Latina is feminine and Latino is masculine.
Yeah, but progressives love coming up with new terms. It helps them filter people. If you're not using their new term, you're probably not one of them, and you probably don't meet their minimum standard of wokeness.

I find the new trend for using the term 'People of Colour' rather odd. It's not so long since people considered the term 'Coloured People' to be racist. But as I said, I just can't keep up with the latest woke terms and descriptors, and the reasons given for creating them.
 
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That particular acronym appears in Government of Canada documents, hence why it's being used.

Though I do agree that such an acronym is a getting a bit out of hand, especially since there are variations on it and nothing is consistent. At my own organization, I've seen similar acronyms (particularly with respect to gender neutral washrooms), but it does create confusion when people aren't aware of what those different letters mean.

What we really need is a blanket term to cover gender identity/sexuality without having to resort to alphabet soup.
Do you know what the "2SL" part is, just out of curiosity? I know the others, but that one is a head scratcher.
 
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Anything with the letter Q elicits a reflexive chuckle from me nowadays. It is involuntary and I simply can't help but laugh. Yet it has absolutely nothing to do with the word queer. I can't keep up with the woke generation and their evolving acronyms. To each their own.
 
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Do you know what the "2SL" part is, just out of curiosity? I know the others, but that one is a head scratcher.
It's 2S, which means "Two Spirit." It's an umbrella term to describe people in First Nations and American Indian communities who did not match standard gender roles.
 
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It's 2S, which means "Two Spirit." It's an umbrella term to describe people in First Nations and American Indian communities who did not match standard gender roles.
Not an "umbrella term".

It's actually a very historical and precise word. It means they believe that the spirit of both a man and woman resides in them. And, in fact, 2 spirited people in First Nations history tended to be revered and viewed as a bridge between genders.
 
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Not an "umbrella term".

It's actually a very historical and precise word. It means they believe that the spirit of both a man and woman resides in them. And, in fact, 2 spirited people in First Nations history tended to be revered and viewed as a bridge between genders.
"Two Spirit" dates from 1990. It's not a historical word, and in fact different First Naitons who had a similar concept had different words and names for it.
 
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