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Hello everyone! I appreciate your continued support on here. I have actually recovered from many problems in my life and this has been a helpful tool. Praise God! However, recently I have been going through a mental version of what I imagine the terrors of hell to feel like, at least in part.

So, I used to abuse drugs. It was a hard time in my life. But I have, to the Glory of God, overcome it again, Praise the Lord! It was truly awful. I was like that for years. Now, my family didn't know. But I have recently been completely delivered from drug abuse, and I have been delivered from the abuse of many things. And I have been following God, at least I hope so. See, here's the thing: I started to have what seemed to be demonic influences from doing these drugs, and I would feel terror and voices of fear and hate and condemnation. The last time I used drugs to get intoxicated, I was under the influence and heard an angry voice seem to scream into my ears that if I didn't tell everyone in my family that I was abusing drugs, I would go to hell. I was filled with many terrors and great anxiety that night and it has been going on for a while now, ever since. It seems like "conviction mixed with condemnation and anxiety.

But here's the thing, during all this, I had another voice/feeling deep in my heart that seemed to bring peace and hope and teach me how to actually avoid sin and temptation, rather than telling me how evil, hateful, and how much of an Idiot I am. Jesus called people fools, so that suddenly doesn't sound very far off. But here's the thing, I have tried listening to the loud and blaring voice that seems to pierce my soul with anxiety and constant crippling fear. I have told people. It does nothing. It alleviates nothing. On the surface, it seems like the right thing to do, but I have talked to people in my family over and over and it doesn't go away, in fact, it gets worse. It goes away for a bit but then continues on. I don't tell them everything though and maybe I am being punished? It keeps reminding me that God destroys sinners and that God harshly judges people. But even though I "repent" over and over, it still tells me I haven't told people enough or I haven't said it right. I am woken up from sleep with crippling anxiety. Is this an evil Spirit.

The thing is, I have many other voices that also claim to be God, along with the fearful one mentioned above. But the one that seems to reside in my heart tells me the exact opposite. It tells me that I need to get close to God. I need to read the Bible. I need to not worry because my sins are forgiven in the confession to God and that he can make me new. It isn't fearful and intimidating. It tells me that I need to repent of worrying and come to God to be healed. It brings up many Scriptures that are actually used in context, unlike the other ones. It seems like this one just wants me to be saved and to bring honor to God.

It seems like a cut and dry answer but how can I know for sure. The fearful one reminds me that I will go to hell for not picking the right one. The other tells me to trust in God and lean not on my own understanding because he will make my paths straight. But they both use Scripture. The fearful one reminds me that The devil comes as an angel of light. The other one tells me to look at the facts and at scripture. To test the Spirits. To look at the way these voices affect me and to learn from it. But the fearful one tells me that my feelings are unreliable and my experiences and tells me to blindly follow. The other one tells me to look to God and to Scripture. But it's a much quieter voice. The fearful one makes me feel anxious and like tells me that I am only wanting to have my ears tickled and gives me a convicting feeling of anxiety. The other one tells me to trust in God and gives me a convicting feeling that makes me sorry that I have sinned against a God when I sin. Both use Scripture. But the fearful one keeps putting in my mind that I am sunforgiven still, I am headed to hell, unless I repent, I am going to be put in great delusion, I am just looking to have my ears tickled, I am not coming to the light. The light one tells me that I am saved through Grace and that I need to stop worrying and follow the Lord, read the Bible, and trust in God for salvation and forgiveness. It actually gives me comfort and shows me truths that seem to go with the Bible. It even turns my eyes from anxiety and despair to God using the Scriptures.

The only question is, which one do I listen to? I can't afford to choose wrong. The other voice doesn't go away, no matter how much I rebuke it. What should I do? I want to please God

Sorry for the length of this. Thank you for answering me and helping me to anyone that does
 
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Hello everyone! I appreciate your continued support on here. I have actually recovered from many problems in my life and this has been a helpful tool. Praise God! However, recently I have been going through a mental version of what I imagine the terrors of hell to feel like, at least in part.

So, I used to abuse drugs. It was a hard time in my life. But I have, to the Glory of God, overcome it again, Praise the Lord! It was truly awful. I was like that for years. Now, my family didn't know. But I have recently been completely delivered from drug abuse, and I have been delivered from the abuse of many things. And I have been following God, at least I hope so. See, here's the thing: I started to have what seemed to be demonic influences from doing these drugs, and I would feel terror and voices of fear and hate and condemnation. The last time I used drugs to get intoxicated, I was under the influence and heard an angry voice seem to scream into my ears that if I didn't tell everyone in my family that I was abusing drugs, I would go to hell. I was filled with many terrors and great anxiety that night and it has been going on for a while now, ever since. It seems like "conviction mixed with condemnation and anxiety.

But here's the thing, during all this, I had another voice/feeling deep in my heart that seemed to bring peace and hope and teach me how to actually avoid sin and temptation, rather than telling me how evil, hateful, and how much of an Idiot I am. Jesus called people fools, so that suddenly doesn't sound very far off. But here's the thing, I have tried listening to the loud and blaring voice that seems to pierce my soul with anxiety and constant crippling fear. I have told people. It does nothing. It alleviates nothing. On the surface, it seems like the right thing to do, but I have talked to people in my family over and over and it doesn't go away, in fact, it gets worse. It goes away for a bit but then continues on. I don't tell them everything though and maybe I am being punished? It keeps reminding me that God destroys sinners and that God harshly judges people. But even though I "repent" over and over, it still tells me I haven't told people enough or I haven't said it right. I am woken up from sleep with crippling anxiety. Is this an evil Spirit.

The thing is, I have many other voices that also claim to be God, along with the fearful one mentioned above. But the one that seems to reside in my heart tells me the exact opposite. It tells me that I need to get close to God. I need to read the Bible. I need to not worry because my sins are forgiven in the confession to God and that he can make me new. It isn't fearful and intimidating. It tells me that I need to repent of worrying and come to God to be healed. It brings up many Scriptures that are actually used in context, unlike the other ones. It seems like this one just wants me to be saved and to bring honor to God.

It seems like a cut and dry answer but how can I know for sure. The fearful one reminds me that I will go to hell for not picking the right one. The other tells me to trust in God and lean not on my own understanding because he will make my paths straight. But they both use Scripture. The fearful one reminds me that The devil comes as an angel of light. The other one tells me to look at the facts and at scripture. To test the Spirits. To look at the way these voices affect me and to learn from it. But the fearful one tells me that my feelings are unreliable and my experiences and tells me to blindly follow. The other one tells me to look to God and to Scripture. But it's a much quieter voice. The fearful one makes me feel anxious and like tells me that I am only wanting to have my ears tickled and gives me a convicting feeling of anxiety. The other one tells me to trust in God and gives me a convicting feeling that makes me sorry that I have sinned against a God when I sin. Both use Scripture. But the fearful one keeps putting in my mind that I am sunforgiven still, I am headed to hell, unless I repent, I am going to be put in great delusion, I am just looking to have my ears tickled, I am not coming to the light. The light one tells me that I am saved through Grace and that I need to stop worrying and follow the Lord, read the Bible, and trust in God for salvation and forgiveness. It actually gives me comfort and shows me truths that seem to go with the Bible. It even turns my eyes from anxiety and despair to God using the Scriptures.

The only question is, which one do I listen to? I can't afford to choose wrong. The other voice doesn't go away, no matter how much I rebuke it. What should I do? I want to please God

Sorry for the length of this. Thank you for answering me and helping me to anyone that does

Follow in the steps of Jesus .... you will stumble here and there (we all do) but by His grace He will help you to overcome .... it is a life-time battle ... but Jesus has won the war! AMEN!
 
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And I have been following God, at least I hope so.
Pray and trust God who knows all He desires to do with . . . us . . . not just you. Yes, He does speak to us personally, and His communication includes what is in the Bible. Plus, He uses our brothers and sisters in Jesus. And He uses good example. So, you are wise to share with ones who live and love the way God's word says. You can feed on their example.

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

And make sure you are being a good example. This is more important than how much you tell your family about your past > how you are living, now >

"Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, holding fast the word of life," (in Philippians 2:13-16)

Do not give in to arguing and complaining and to fear inside yourself >

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment." (in 1 John 4:18)

If we "first trusted in Christ" (Ephesians 1:12), we are guaranteed how our Heavenly Father corrects us so we are sharing with Him in His love's "peaceable fruit of righteousness" > Hebrews 12:4-14. And in His love, thanks to His correction of our character . . . not only reforming our behavior and acting; but God's correction cures our character > "that we may be partakers of His holiness."

So, this is included in how our Father loves us; so we are wise to actively seek Him to correct us, how He is able . . . so we are not failing and flailing and struggling and confused, but succeeding with God.
 
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Hello everyone! I appreciate your continued support on here. I have actually recovered from many problems in my life and this has been a helpful tool. Praise God! However, recently I have been going through a mental version of what I imagine the terrors of hell to feel like, at least in part.

So, I used to abuse drugs. It was a hard time in my life. But I have, to the Glory of God, overcome it again, Praise the Lord! It was truly awful. I was like that for years. Now, my family didn't know. But I have recently been completely delivered from drug abuse, and I have been delivered from the abuse of many things. And I have been following God, at least I hope so. See, here's the thing: I started to have what seemed to be demonic influences from doing these drugs, and I would feel terror and voices of fear and hate and condemnation. The last time I used drugs to get intoxicated, I was under the influence and heard an angry voice seem to scream into my ears that if I didn't tell everyone in my family that I was abusing drugs, I would go to hell. I was filled with many terrors and great anxiety that night and it has been going on for a while now, ever since. It seems like "conviction mixed with condemnation and anxiety.

But here's the thing, during all this, I had another voice/feeling deep in my heart that seemed to bring peace and hope and teach me how to actually avoid sin and temptation, rather than telling me how evil, hateful, and how much of an Idiot I am. Jesus called people fools, so that suddenly doesn't sound very far off. But here's the thing, I have tried listening to the loud and blaring voice that seems to pierce my soul with anxiety and constant crippling fear. I have told people. It does nothing. It alleviates nothing. On the surface, it seems like the right thing to do, but I have talked to people in my family over and over and it doesn't go away, in fact, it gets worse. It goes away for a bit but then continues on. I don't tell them everything though and maybe I am being punished? It keeps reminding me that God destroys sinners and that God harshly judges people. But even though I "repent" over and over, it still tells me I haven't told people enough or I haven't said it right. I am woken up from sleep with crippling anxiety. Is this an evil Spirit.

The thing is, I have many other voices that also claim to be God, along with the fearful one mentioned above. But the one that seems to reside in my heart tells me the exact opposite. It tells me that I need to get close to God. I need to read the Bible. I need to not worry because my sins are forgiven in the confession to God and that he can make me new. It isn't fearful and intimidating. It tells me that I need to repent of worrying and come to God to be healed. It brings up many Scriptures that are actually used in context, unlike the other ones. It seems like this one just wants me to be saved and to bring honor to God.

It seems like a cut and dry answer but how can I know for sure. The fearful one reminds me that I will go to hell for not picking the right one. The other tells me to trust in God and lean not on my own understanding because he will make my paths straight. But they both use Scripture. The fearful one reminds me that The devil comes as an angel of light. The other one tells me to look at the facts and at scripture. To test the Spirits. To look at the way these voices affect me and to learn from it. But the fearful one tells me that my feelings are unreliable and my experiences and tells me to blindly follow. The other one tells me to look to God and to Scripture. But it's a much quieter voice. The fearful one makes me feel anxious and like tells me that I am only wanting to have my ears tickled and gives me a convicting feeling of anxiety. The other one tells me to trust in God and gives me a convicting feeling that makes me sorry that I have sinned against a God when I sin. Both use Scripture. But the fearful one keeps putting in my mind that I am sunforgiven still, I am headed to hell, unless I repent, I am going to be put in great delusion, I am just looking to have my ears tickled, I am not coming to the light. The light one tells me that I am saved through Grace and that I need to stop worrying and follow the Lord, read the Bible, and trust in God for salvation and forgiveness. It actually gives me comfort and shows me truths that seem to go with the Bible. It even turns my eyes from anxiety and despair to God using the Scriptures.

The only question is, which one do I listen to? I can't afford to choose wrong. The other voice doesn't go away, no matter how much I rebuke it. What should I do? I want to please God

Sorry for the length of this. Thank you for answering me and helping me to anyone that does

First of all, this sounds like the enemy Satan is working hard to draw you away from our God with his chatter and whispers in your mind --he is an expert at that (the "beguiler", as God calls him). If you have the Lord Jesus in your heart (as John 3:16) you ARE saved for Heaven and are sealed by the Holy Spirit in you (note John 14; 1 Jn. 5:10-13 in your Holy Bible --very important to know and appreciate --thanking God daily). Due to your history of dabbling in drugs and such, you are exposed to this; though you have physically stopped the drugs ??.
Make the Lord Jesus the center of your life in prayers daily, and be walking and talking with Him all day. He will deal with Satan and give you that "peace that passeth all understanding" as God says. Take every thought and circumstances to the Lord Jesus --all saints must do this to meet the challenges, not only of Satan in our mind, but voices of men around us. The Lord Jesus will "never leave you, nor forsake you", as He says. It is a relationship with Him, and not just a belief about Him. Be reading the New Testament and four Gospels for redemption truth, promises of God, and our walk; and then study the Epistles to learn about Church truth. Feel free to write me privately if you wish to chat further, friend! I will pray for you.
 
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Where in the world is Cambria --Wales; California; etc.: many places have been called Cambria.

In any case, welcome here, and if I can be of any help in your trials, feel free to write me privately at Conversation page herein; and we can chat about any concerns, friend! -1watchman
 
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It’s like the flesh and the spirit. The spirit should be listened to. The flesh, pick and choose what is good according to the Bible. The spirit is from God the flesh can’t please God. Some part of you wants to tell your family. Maybe they know. You can believe the scriptures it gives but don’t be ruled by the flesh’.
 
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