Jesus was crucified on Thursday

Der Alte · Mar 24, 2021

bling said:
OK. It does not make any real difference for me.

Nor to me but some folks insist that it must be precisely three literal days and three literal nights which would have Jesus resurrecting shortly before sunset.
Since Jesus was found to have risen shortly after dawn on the first day of the week, i.e. Sunday, that sunset would have been on Saturday.
Holding to strict literalism they insist that Jesus was crucified either on Wednesday or Thursday.

Dale · Mar 26, 2021

saint2 said:
Passover Week according to the Gospel of Mark.
Mark's chronology shows that Jesus was crucified on a Thursday and not on Friday as generally believed.
Bible Gateway passage: Mark 11-16 - New King James Version

The sabbath immediately following Jesus' burial was a two day sabbath, not just one day as generally believed.
This is because Leviticus 23:5-7 made the day following Passover an Unleavened Bread Festival Sabbath.
This Unleavened Bread sabbath festival calls for a sacred assembly. The people were to do no regular work that day.
The Gospel of John (John 19:31) called this special sabbath day a high day (megas G3173).

The year Jesus died, this Unleavened Bread sabbath day was immediately followed by the the regular Saturday seventh day sabbath.
So these two back-to-back sabbaths created one long two day sabbath that year.

Leviticus 23:5-7 states:
5 The Lord's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.
6 On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord's Festival of Unleavened Bread begins;
for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast.
7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.

Just as our day runs from one midnight to the next midnight, the Jewish day runs from one sunset to the next sunset.
Below, I've split our day into two parts: the "before sunset" part of our day, and the "after sunset" part of our day.
This procedure aligns the "after sunset" part of our day with the start of a new Jewish day which begins at sunset.

The following chronology shows some of the major events that happened each day of that Passover Week, along with the related verses in the Gospel of Mark.
This chronology uses the Gospel of Mark, chapters 11 through 16, to show the Passover week's events.
Mark's verses are parsed in sequence, and the events happening each day of Passover week are highlighted.
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----------------------------------------------- Sunday -------------------------------------------------------
Palm Sunday Before Sunset
Jesus enters Jerusalem triumphantly and enters the temple courts and looks around at everything (Mark 11:1-11)

Palm Sunday After Sunset
Jesus and the twelve spend the night in Bethany (Mark 11:11)

----------------------------------------------- Monday -------------------------------------------------------
Monday Before Sunset
On the way back to Jerusalem, Jesus curses the fig tree without fruit (Mark 11:12-14)
Jesus drives merchants from the temple courts (Mark 11:15-17)
Jesus spends the day teaching in the temple courts (Mark 11:18)

Monday After Sunset
Jesus and his disciples leave Jerusalem (Mark 11:19)

-------------------------------------------------- Tuesday ---------------------------------------------------
Tuesday Before Sunset
The cursed fig tree has withered away to its roots (Mark 11:20-23)
In the temple courts, Jesus confronts the chief priests, scribes and elders (Mark 11-27-33)
Again, Jesus teaches in the temple courts but he teaches in Parables (Mark 12:1-44)

Tuesday After Sunset
On the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Jesus foretells end time prophecies (Mark 13:1-37)
It's Two days before Passover and the Unleavened Bread festival (Mark 14:1)
This is Tuesday after sunset, the Unleavened Bread festival is two days later on Thursday after sunset
The chief priests and scribes look for a way to arrest Jesus by stealth and kill him.(Mark 14:1-2)

-------------------------------------------------- Wednesday -------------------------------------------------
Wednesday Before Sunset
In Bethany, Jesus has dinner with Simon the Leper.
There, a woman anoints Jesus with ointment in preparation for his burial (Mark 14:3-9)
Judas goes to the chief priests in order to betray Jesus to them. (Mark 14:10-11)
Two disciples are sent to Jerusalem to prepare a place and prepare the Passover meal (Mark 14:12-16)

Wednesday After Sunset (Passover Begins)
The Lord's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month (Leviticus 23:5)
Jesus eats the Passover meal with his disciples (Mark 14:17-25)
Jesus and disciples go to Mount Olives to a place called Gethsemane where Jesus prays to his Father (Mark 14:26-42)
Judas arrives with a mob and chief priests, scribes and elders. They take Jesus captive and begin his torture (Mark 14:43-52)
Jesus goes before Jewish Council where they condemn him as deserving death(Mark 14:53-65)

------------------------------------------------ Thursday ----------------------------------------------------
Thursday Before Sunset
In the morning, the Jewish Council hand Jesus over to Pilate. Pilate hands him over to be crucified (Mark 15:1-15)
The soldiers torture him, crown him with thorns, and mock him saluting him as "King of the Jews!" (Mark 15:16-20)
They crucify Jesus at 9 AM Thursday and he dies six hours later at 3 PM (Mark 15:21-39)
it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath (Mark 15:42)
Joseph of Arimathea, buries Jesus in a tomb before sunset (Mark 15:43-47)

Thursday After Sunset (Unleavened Bread Festival sabbath begins)
A special Unleavened Bread sabbath day festival begins now at sunset (Leviticus 23:5-7)
Jesus now lies dead in the tomb for the first of three nights.

---------------------------------------------- Friday --------------------------------------------------------
Friday Before Sunset
The special Unleavened Bread sabbath festival remains in effect until sunset.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb

Friday After Sunset (Regular seventh day sabbath begins)
At sunset, the Unleavened Bread sabbath festival ends and the regular seventh day sabbath begins.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb for the second of three nights.

----------------------------------------------- Saturday -----------------------------------------------------
Saturday Before Sunset
The regular Saturday seventh day sabbath remains in effect until sunset.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb.

Saturday After Sunset
The two back to back sabbaths;
--- the special high Unleavened Bread sabbath and the regular Saturday seventh day sabbath, now end.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb for the third night.

------------------------------------------------- Sunday -----------------------------------------------------
Easter Sunday
The sabbaths over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bring spices, so that they might anoint Jesus.
And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun has risen, they go to the tomb. (Mark 16:1-2)
Jesus has already risen from the dead and has left the tomb (Mark 16:6)

Jesus began Passover day (i.e. sunset Wednesday till sunset Thursday) with the Last Supper.
At the end of that day he will lie dead in the tomb for three nights - Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
Jesus was tortured for about eighteen hours on the day of Passover.
First nine hours by the Jews (circa 9 PM Wednesday to 6 AM Thursday)
Then nine hours by the Romans (circa 6 AM Thursday to 3 PM Thursday)

Matthew 12:40
For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster,
so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth.

This prophecy of Matthew 12:40 was fulfilled by Jesus during this Passover Week.
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Here’s the standard answer.

What day of the week was Passover when Jesus died?

All four Gospels agree to within about a day that the crucifixion was at the time of Passover, and all four Gospels agree that Jesus died a few hours before the commencement of the Jewish Sabbath, i.e. he died before nightfall on a Friday (Matt 27:62; 28:1; Mark 15:42; Luke 23:54; John 19:31, 42).

Chronology of Jesus - Wikipedia

EclipseEventSigns · Jul 14, 2023

Messiah Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday. There's at least 10 proofs for this. The "middle of the week" is a very underappreciated theme in the entire history of salvation.

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Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

EclipseEventSigns said:
Messiah Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday. There's at least 10 proofs for this. The "middle of the week" is a very underappreciated theme in the entire history of salvation.

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All 4 gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on parasceue [pronounced para sceve] which was and today still is the Greek name for the day we call Friday. Parasceue means preparation. Justin Martyr in his First apology wrote. chap LXVII

But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.

EclipseEventSigns · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
All 4 gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on parasceue [pronounced para sceve] which was and today still is the Greek name for the day we call Friday. Parasceue means preparation. Justin Martyr in his First apology wrote. chap LXVII

But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.

That might well be the way it is in Greek. But the Gospels are from jewish culture (is that still obvious these days?). And the term for "preparation day" in Hebrew/Aramaic is "eve". That is, "the eve of the Sabbath'. This term was used for Friday BUT it was also use for any day before a special Sabbath - those days specifically outlined in the Feasts of the Lord. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was a special Sabbath which could take place ANY day of the week - no work because of the holy convocation - a Sabbath.
[Lev 23:6-7 LSB] 6 'Then on the fifteenth day of the same month there is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to Yahweh; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. 7 'On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any laborious work.

The Jewish cultural feasts and their rules are not appreciated by most western Christians. This is the "secret" of correctly understanding the timeline of that entire week.

Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

EclipseEventSigns said:
That might well be the way it is in Greek. But the Gospels are from jewish culture (is that still obvious these days?). And the term for "preparation day" in Hebrew/Aramaic is "eve". That is, "the eve of the Sabbath'. This term was used for Friday BUT it was also use for any day before a special Sabbath - those days specifically outlined in the Feasts of the Lord. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was a special Sabbath which could take place ANY day of the week - no work because of the holy convocation - a Sabbath.
[Lev 23:6-7 LSB] 6 'Then on the fifteenth day of the same month there is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to Yahweh; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. 7 'On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any laborious work.

The Jewish cultural feasts and their rules are not appreciated by most western Christians. This is the "secret" of correctly understanding the timeline of that entire week.

That's all very interesting but the entire New Testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew and sent, not to Jews, but to former pagan Christians most of whom had no knowledge of anything Jewish. Therefore, they would have understood it as written. See e.g. the quote from Justin which I quoted.

EclipseEventSigns · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
That's all very interesting but the entire New Testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew and sent, not to Jews, but to former pagan Christians most of whom had no knowledge of anything Jewish. Therefore, they would have understood it as written. See e.g. the quote from Justin which I quoted.

And appealing to Justin the Martyr does not mean much of anything. He was a pagan turned Christian. Not Jewish. He wrote about 65 years AFTER the temple was destroyed. So the Feasts could no longer take place in Jerusalem and most everything Jewish was suppressed by the Romans by that time. He did not have any connection to authentic Jewish cultural practices. This only got worse over time as the Church developed much anti-jewish sentiment and went so far as to threaten excommunication for anyone who celebrated Passover at the the same time and manner as the Jews. Only in our modern age is the proper understanding of the timing of the Passion Week rediscovered.

You have a very common but wrong understanding of the New Testament writings. They were ALL written in Aramaic first and then translated into Greek. They were actually written to Jewish Christians living in exile. Most Jews did not live in Judea but still lived in major centres such as Babylon, Edessa and Asia Minor. It's very clear through all of the letters of Paul and Peter (and others).

Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

EclipseEventSigns said:
And appealing to Justin the Martyr does not mean much of anything. He was a pagan turned Christian. Not Jewish. He wrote about 65 years AFTER the temple was destroyed. So the Feasts could no longer take place in Jerusalem and most everything Jewish was suppressed by the Romans by that time. He did not have any connection to authentic Jewish cultural practices. This only got worse over time as the Church developed much anti-jewish sentiment and went so far as to threaten excommunication for anyone who celebrated Passover at the the same time and manner as the Jews. Only in our modern age is the proper understanding of the timing of the Passion Week rediscovered.
You have a very common but wrong understanding of the New Testament writings. They were ALL written in Aramaic first and then translated into Greek. They were actually written to Jewish Christians living in exile. Most Jews did not live in Judea but still lived in major centres such as Babylon, Edessa and Asia Minor. It's very clear through all of the letters of Paul and Peter (and others).

You rejected my one quote BUT you do not provide any evidence for any of your claims, There is no, credible, verifiable evidence of any kind that the entire NT was written in Aramaic. I believe that one ECF said Matthew was written in either Aramaic or Hebrew. Everything after the gospels was written to former pagan Christians; Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians and the 7 churches in Rev, all gentiles who would not have understood Hebrew or Aramaic.

EclipseEventSigns · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
You rejected my one quote BUT you do not provide any evidence for any of your claims, There is no, credible, verifiable evidence of any kind that the entire NT was written in Aramaic. I believe that one ECF said Matthew was written in either Aramaic or Hebrew. Everything after the gospels was written to former pagan Christians; Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians and the 7 churches in Rev, all gentiles who would not have understood Hebrew or Aramaic.

Yes, I reject that which is false. As should anyone who checks out the facts and finds them wanting. There is no room for worldly church tradition in true Christianity. The false tradition of "Good Friday" has got to go. It is absolutely and utterly false AND it goes against the very words of Messiah Jesus.

Actually, there is plenty of proof for Aramaic as the original language of the New Testament - for those who research with an open mind, without the trappings of false tradition and the massive egos of the Greek primacists. There is evidence of all 4 Gospels written in Aramaic dated to 78 AD. I just make a video about this:

You have a very misinformed view of the early Church and exactly how it formed. The early church was semitic and they read scriptures in Aramaic (the Targums) as that was the lingua franca of that entire region. The Jews would not do anything with Greek - they hated them. They had just gone through a massive war a few centuries earlier and wanted nothing to do with Greek culture. They even had derogatory terms for any Jew who was too Greek - Hellenizers. Josephus describes how the religious rulers forbade anyone to learn Greek. And he himself was forced to learn Greek so he could translate his work for the Romans - but he could never master the language. He functioned as translator during 70 AD to make sure the Roman terms were understood by the leadership of Jerusalem.

There's SO much evidence for Aramaic. Can't go through it all here.

Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

EclipseEventSigns said:
Yes, I reject that which is false. As should anyone who checks out the facts and finds them wanting. There is no room for worldly church tradition in true Christianity. The false tradition of "Good Friday" has got to go. It is absolutely and utterly false AND it goes against the very words of Messiah Jesus.
Actually, there is plenty of proof for Aramaic as the original language of the New Testament - for those who research with an open mind, without the trappings of false tradition and the massive egos of the Greek primacists. There is evidence of all 4 Gospels written in Aramaic dated to 78 AD. I just make a video about this:

You have a very misinformed view of the early Church and exactly how it formed. The early church was semitic and they read scriptures in Aramaic (the Targums) as that was the lingua franca of that entire region. The Jews would not do anything with Greek - they hated them. They had just gone through a massive war a few centuries earlier and wanted nothing to do with Greek culture. They even had derogatory terms for any Jew who was too Greek - Hellenizers. Josephus describes how the religious rulers forbade anyone to learn Greek. And he himself was forced to learn Greek so he could translate his work for the Romans - but he could never master the language. He functioned as translator during 70 AD to make sure the Roman terms were understood by the leadership of Jerusalem.
There's SO much evidence for Aramaic. Can't go through it all here.

Thank you and goodbye. There is no, zero, none evidence that the early church was Aramaic if there was you could provide some of it here, since you can't hasta la vista.

BPPLEE · Jul 14, 2023

Bobgf said:
Passover Week according to the Gospel of Mark.
Mark's chronology shows that Jesus was crucified on a Thursday and not on Friday as generally believed.
Bible Gateway passage: Mark 11-16 - New King James Version

The sabbath immediately following Jesus' burial was a two day sabbath, not just one day as generally believed.
This is because Leviticus 23:5-7 made the day following Passover an Unleavened Bread Festival Sabbath.
This Unleavened Bread sabbath festival calls for a sacred assembly. The people were to do no regular work that day.
The Gospel of John (John 19:31) called this special sabbath day a high day (megas G3173).

The year Jesus died, this Unleavened Bread sabbath day was immediately followed by the the regular Saturday seventh day sabbath.
So these two back-to-back sabbaths created one long two day sabbath that year.

Leviticus 23:5-7 states:
5 The Lord's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.
6 On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord's Festival of Unleavened Bread begins;
for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast.
7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.

Just as our day runs from one midnight to the next midnight, the Jewish day runs from one sunset to the next sunset.
Below, I've split our day into two parts: the "before sunset" part of our day, and the "after sunset" part of our day.
This procedure aligns the "after sunset" part of our day with the start of a new Jewish day which begins at sunset.

The following chronology shows some of the major events that happened each day of that Passover Week, along with the related verses in the Gospel of Mark.
This chronology uses the Gospel of Mark, chapters 11 through 16, to show the Passover week's events.
Mark's verses are parsed in sequence, and the events happening each day of Passover week are highlighted.
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----------------------------------------------- Sunday -------------------------------------------------------
Palm Sunday Before Sunset
Jesus enters Jerusalem triumphantly and enters the temple courts and looks around at everything (Mark 11:1-11)

Palm Sunday After Sunset
Jesus and the twelve spend the night in Bethany (Mark 11:11)

----------------------------------------------- Monday -------------------------------------------------------
Monday Before Sunset
On the way back to Jerusalem, Jesus curses the fig tree without fruit (Mark 11:12-14)
Jesus drives merchants from the temple courts (Mark 11:15-17)
Jesus spends the day teaching in the temple courts (Mark 11:18)

Monday After Sunset
Jesus and his disciples leave Jerusalem (Mark 11:19)

-------------------------------------------------- Tuesday ---------------------------------------------------
Tuesday Before Sunset
The cursed fig tree has withered away to its roots (Mark 11:20-23)
In the temple courts, Jesus confronts the chief priests, scribes and elders (Mark 11-27-33)
Again, Jesus teaches in the temple courts but he teaches in Parables (Mark 12:1-44)

Tuesday After Sunset
On the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Jesus foretells end time prophecies (Mark 13:1-37)
It's Two days before Passover and the Unleavened Bread festival (Mark 14:1)
This is Tuesday after sunset, the Unleavened Bread festival is two days later on Thursday after sunset
The chief priests and scribes look for a way to arrest Jesus by stealth and kill him.(Mark 14:1-2)

-------------------------------------------------- Wednesday -------------------------------------------------
Wednesday Before Sunset
In Bethany, Jesus has dinner with Simon the Leper.
There, a woman anoints Jesus with ointment in preparation for his burial (Mark 14:3-9)
Judas goes to the chief priests in order to betray Jesus to them. (Mark 14:10-11)
Two disciples are sent to Jerusalem to prepare a place and prepare the Passover meal (Mark 14:12-16)

Wednesday After Sunset (Passover Begins)
The Lord's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month (Leviticus 23:5)
Jesus eats the Passover meal with his disciples (Mark 14:17-25)
Jesus and disciples go to Mount Olives to a place called Gethsemane where Jesus prays to his Father (Mark 14:26-42)
Judas arrives with a mob and chief priests, scribes and elders. They take Jesus captive and begin his torture (Mark 14:43-52)
Jesus goes before Jewish Council where they condemn him as deserving death(Mark 14:53-65)

------------------------------------------------ Thursday ----------------------------------------------------
Thursday Before Sunset
In the morning, the Jewish Council hand Jesus over to Pilate. Pilate hands him over to be crucified (Mark 15:1-15)
The soldiers torture him, crown him with thorns, and mock him saluting him as "King of the Jews!" (Mark 15:16-20)
They crucify Jesus at 9 AM Thursday and he dies six hours later at 3 PM (Mark 15:21-39)
it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath (Mark 15:42)
Joseph of Arimathea, buries Jesus in a tomb before sunset (Mark 15:43-47)

Thursday After Sunset (Unleavened Bread Festival sabbath begins)
A special Unleavened Bread sabbath day festival begins now at sunset (Leviticus 23:5-7)
Jesus now lies dead in the tomb for the first of three nights.

---------------------------------------------- Friday --------------------------------------------------------
Friday Before Sunset
The special Unleavened Bread sabbath festival remains in effect until sunset.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb

Friday After Sunset (Regular seventh day sabbath begins)
At sunset, the Unleavened Bread sabbath festival ends and the regular seventh day sabbath begins.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb for the second of three nights.

----------------------------------------------- Saturday -----------------------------------------------------
Saturday Before Sunset
The regular Saturday seventh day sabbath remains in effect until sunset.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb.

Saturday After Sunset
The two back to back sabbaths;
--- the special high Unleavened Bread sabbath and the regular Saturday seventh day sabbath, now end.
Jesus lies dead in the tomb for the third night.

------------------------------------------------- Sunday -----------------------------------------------------
Easter Sunday
The sabbaths over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bring spices, so that they might anoint Jesus.
And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun has risen, they go to the tomb. (Mark 16:1-2)
Jesus has already risen from the dead and has left the tomb (Mark 16:6)

Jesus began Passover day (i.e. sunset Wednesday till sunset Thursday) with the Last Supper.
At the end of that day he will lie dead in the tomb for three nights - Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
Jesus was tortured for about eighteen hours on the day of Passover.
First nine hours by the Jews (circa 9 PM Wednesday to 6 AM Thursday)
Then nine hours by the Romans (circa 6 AM Thursday to 3 PM Thursday)

Matthew 12:40
For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster,
so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth.

This prophecy of Matthew 12:40 was fulfilled by Jesus during this Passover Week.
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I’ve studied this and came to the conclusion it was a Wednesday or Thursday

Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

BPPLEE said:
I’ve studied this and came to the conclusion it was a Wednesday or Thursday

Matthew 27:62

(62) Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, [παρασκευή] the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,

Mark 15:42

(42) And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή] that is, the day before the sabbath,

Luke 23:54

(54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευή] and the sabbath drew on.

John 19:14

(14) And it was the preparation [παρασκευή] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

John 19:31

(31) The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή] that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

John 19:42

(42) There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation [παρασκευή] day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.

παρασκευή, ῆς, ἡ (s. prec. entry; Trag., Hdt.+; Ath. 15, 2) prim. sense ‘preparation’ (Hdt. 9, 82 and Polyaenus 7, 21, 6 τοῦ δείπνου; 7, 27, 3 πολέμου), in our lit. only of a definite day, as the day of preparation for a festival; acc. to Israel’s usage (in this sense only in late pap, s. New Docs 3, 80; Jos., Ant. 16, 163; Synes., Ep. 4 p. 161d) it was Friday, on which day everything had to be prepared for the Sabbath, when no work was permitted Mt 27:62 (CTorrey, ZAW 65, ’53, 242= JBL 50, ’31, 234 n. 3, ‘sunset’. Against Torrey, SZeitlin, JBL 51, ’32, 263–71); Mk 15:42; J 19:31. ἡμέρα παρασκευῆς Lk 23:54 (D ἡμ. πρὸ σαββάτου, cp. Mk 15:42). παρασκευὴ τῶν Ἰουδαίων J 19:42. παρασκευὴ τοῦ πάσχα day of preparation for the Passover (or Friday of Passover Week) vs. 14. For Christians as well παρασκευή served to designate the sixth day of the week (ESchürer, ZNW 6,1905, 10; 11f) Friday MPol 7:1; AcPl Ha 7, 14., and so in Mod. Gk. For Christians it is a fast day, as the day of Jesus’ death D 8:1. On the chronology s. bibliog. in SPorter, Can Traditional Exegesis Enlighten Literary Analysis of the Fourth Gospel, in CEvans/JSanders, edd., Studies in Scripture in Early Judaism and Christianity ’94, 416f n. 3.—B. 1008. Schürer index. M-M. TW.

William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago:

University of Chicago Press, 2000), 771.

BPPLEE · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
Matthew 27:62

(62) Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, [παρασκευή] the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,

Mark 15:42

(42) And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή] that is, the day before the sabbath,

Luke 23:54

(54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευή] and the sabbath drew on.

John 19:14

(14) And it was the preparation [παρασκευή] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

John 19:31

(31) The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή] that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

John 19:42

(42) There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation [παρασκευή] day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.

παρασκευή, ῆς, ἡ (s. prec. entry; Trag., Hdt.+; Ath. 15, 2) prim. sense ‘preparation’ (Hdt. 9, 82 and Polyaenus 7, 21, 6 τοῦ δείπνου; 7, 27, 3 πολέμου), in our lit. only of a definite day, as the day of preparation for a festival; acc. to Israel’s usage (in this sense only in late pap, s. New Docs 3, 80; Jos., Ant. 16, 163; Synes., Ep. 4 p. 161d) it was Friday, on which day everything had to be prepared for the Sabbath, when no work was permitted Mt 27:62 (CTorrey, ZAW 65, ’53, 242= JBL 50, ’31, 234 n. 3, ‘sunset’. Against Torrey, SZeitlin, JBL 51, ’32, 263–71); Mk 15:42; J 19:31. ἡμέρα παρασκευῆς Lk 23:54 (D ἡμ. πρὸ σαββάτου, cp. Mk 15:42). παρασκευὴ τῶν Ἰουδαίων J 19:42. παρασκευὴ τοῦ πάσχα day of preparation for the Passover (or Friday of Passover Week) vs. 14. For Christians as well παρασκευή served to designate the sixth day of the week (ESchürer, ZNW 6,1905, 10; 11f) Friday MPol 7:1; AcPl Ha 7, 14., and so in Mod. Gk. For Christians it is a fast day, as the day of Jesus’ death D 8:1. On the chronology s. bibliog. in SPorter, Can Traditional Exegesis Enlighten Literary Analysis of the Fourth Gospel, in CEvans/JSanders, edd., Studies in Scripture in Early Judaism and Christianity ’94, 416f n. 3.—B. 1008. Schürer index. M-M. TW.

William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago:

University of Chicago Press, 2000), 771.

Yes it was the preparation for Passover not the weekly preparation day for the Sabbath.

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(14) And it was the preparation [παρασκευή] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

BPPLEE said:
Yes it was the preparation for Passover not the weekly preparation day for the Sabbath.

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(14) And it was the preparation [παρασκευή] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

You ignored a couple of vss.

Mark 15:42
(42) And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή] that is, the day before the sabbath,
Luke 23:54
(54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευή] and the sabbath drew on.

That day was a high day [John 19:21] because Passover/1ULB] fell on the Sabbath that did not always happen.

Exodus 12:16
(16) And in the first day [of unleavened bread] there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.

Passover and first day of unleavened bread [1ULB] were not Sabbaths, preparation/cooking of food was permitted.

BPPLEE · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
You ignored a couple of vss.

Mark 15:42

(42) And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή] that is, the day before the sabbath,

Luke 23:54

(54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευή] and the sabbath drew on.
That day was a high day [John 19:21] because Passover/1ULB] fell on the Sabbath that did not always happen.

Exodus 12:16

(16) And in the first day [of unleavened bread] there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
Passover and first day of unleavened bread [1ULB] were not Sabbaths, preparation/cooking of food was permitted.

Passover is a high Sabbath. There was more than one Sabbath that week. Any way you slice it you can’t get 3 days and 3 nights from Friday evening to Sunday morning

Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

BPPLEE said:
Passover is a high Sabbath. You’ll find the phrase “after the Sabbaths“ in the gospels. There was more than one that week

That is not correct. Repeating one's presuppositions does not make them more valid. Read the OT. Passover is never called a Sabbath. Passover and 1ULB always occur on the same day neither are ever called a Sabbath see Exodus 12:16 which I quoted above. Preparation and cooking food was permitted on Passover/1ULB when they did not occur on a Sabbath as they did during passion week.

BPPLEE · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
That is not correct. Repeating one's presuppositions does not make them more valid. Read the OT. Passover is never called a Sabbath. Passover and 1ULB always occur on the same day neither are ever called a Sabbath see Exodus 12:16 which I quoted above. Preparation and cooking food was permitted on Passover/1ULB when they did not occur on a Sabbath as they did during passion week.

Exo 31:13 - Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
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Lev 19:3 - Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God.
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Lev 19:30 - Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Theres more than one

BPPLEE · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
That is not correct. Repeating one's presuppositions does not make them more valid. Read the OT. Passover is never called a Sabbath. Passover and 1ULB always occur on the same day neither are ever called a Sabbath see Exodus 12:16 which I quoted above. Preparation and cooking food was permitted on Passover/1ULB when they did not occur on a Sabbath as they did during passion week.

Lev 23:5 - In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'Spassover.
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Lev 23:6 - And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
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Lev 23:7 - In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servilework therein.

Der Alte · Jul 14, 2023

BPPLEE said:
Exo 31:13 - Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
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Lev 19:3 - Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God.
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Lev 19:30 - Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
Theres more than one

Right! There are about 365 Sabbaths every year. If you can, show me a verse which calls either 1ULB or Passover a Passover see Eodus 12:16. Preparation and cooking food was specifically permitted.

BPPLEE · Jul 14, 2023

Der Alte said:
Right! There are about 365 Sabbaths every year. If you can, show me a verse which calls either 1ULB or Passover a Passover see Eodus 12:16. Preparation and cooking food was specifically permitted.

Nowhere in the Gospels does it assert that Christ was crucified on a Friday. In Mark 15:42, it refers to “…the day before the sabbath.” This may be the root of the misunderstanding.

The Jews had other sabbaths in addition to the weekly shabbat (Saturday). In addition to the weekly sabbaths, there were seven “high sabbaths” each year, and the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the 15th of Nisan, was one of them.[4]

Further, Matthew 28:1 should read, “At the end of the sabbaths,”[5] (which is plural in the Greek), implying there was a plurality of sabbaths that week.

If Passover, the 14th of Nisan, fell earlier in the week, the 15th could have been any day prior to Saturday, the weekly sabbath. “When the sabbaths were past” would, of course, be Sunday (actually, Saturday after sundown), in accordance to the Feast of First Fruits. (Some hold to a Thursday crucifixion on a similar basis

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