Where did Jesus go?

disciple Clint said:

How would you answer this question. Where did Jesus go and what did He do after he died and before He rose from the dead?

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During the 3 days "alive" in the Spirit Jesus went to preach the gospel to the spirits in prison. That was the only thing given on His coming and goings during those 3 days. After He appeared alive to His disciples He ascended to where He was before. At the Fathers side.

I think he went to the most extreme possibility of human separation from God. He experienced the nadir of human experience, as a fulfilment of his Incarnation (full human life and death), and in order to redeem the worst in us.

disciple Clint said:

Where did Jesus go and what did He do after he died and before He rose from the dead?

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According to the Apostles' Creed:

He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
on the third day he rose again from the dead;

He died, was placed in a tomb, and was unconscious for 3 days & 3 nights.

From the scriptures, Jesus tells one thief that today you will be with me in paradise and in another scripture we are told, "...having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit, in which also to the spirits in prison having gone he did preach, " 1 Peter 3:18-19 YLT

I don't see any correlation in the scriptures that places a prison within Paradise. Seems to me that He went to two places, to welcome the thief and to other spirits being punished for their wickedness. This doesn't answer the question of which place He went to first either.

Norbert L said:

From the scriptures, Jesus tells one thief that today you will be with me in paradise and in another scripture we are told, "...having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit, in which also to the spirits in prison having gone he did preach, " 1 Peter 3:18-19 YLT . . . This doesn't answer the question of which place He went to first either.

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It would make sense that Jesus went to the spirit Prison first and then to Paradise. Don't you think so?

Harrowing of Hell

It COULD be that there is only one place in the afterlife that's being referred to by all those terms.

public hermit said:

I think he went to the most extreme possibility of human separation from God.

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That sounds impossible for a member of the Godhead. Wouldn't he have to be separated from himself?

Personally, I'm inclined to think that complete separation from God is synonymous with nonexistence.

nonaeroterraqueous said:

That sounds impossible for a member of the Godhead. Wouldn't he have to be separated from himself?

Personally, I'm inclined to think that complete separation from God is synonymous with nonexistence.

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Yeah, I kind of have the same sense as I think about it. So, it wouldn't be complete separation (non-existence), but as far as possible. Didn't the Psalmist say something like, even if I go to Sheol, You are there? So, it would be the farthest possible for human experience. If God is ubiquitous, even in death, then I don't see it as an issue for the Godhead.

Andrewn said:

It would make sense that Jesus went to the spirit Prison first and then to Paradise. Don't you think so?

Harrowing of Hell

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I'm more of the impression of John 21:25. Plus the very broad statement of as in Heaven, so on Earth does not necessarily mean as on Earth, so in Heaven. Basically our priorities of importance on Earth do not necessarily determine how Heaven operates. So it's just speculation, in all likelihood there are more things going on in spirit during the three days than just those two events.

nonaeroterraqueous said:

That sounds impossible for a member of the Godhead. Wouldn't he have to be separated from himself?

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Separated from the physical body he'd assumed 30+ years earlier, yes.

Personally, I'm inclined to think that complete separation from God is synonymous with nonexistence.

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Are we still talking about Jesus after the Crucifixion?

Albion said:

Separated from the physical body he'd assumed 30+ years earlier, yes.

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The issue was whether God can be separated from God. This is not a question of his separation from a physical body, or separation from the Father, in particular. It looks like a logical error.

Albion said:

Are we still talking about Jesus after the Crucifixion?

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It's a general question of whether Hell is really completely absent of God. There is no such thing as an absence of God, anywhere. If God is completely absent from a place, then the place does not exist. You can get on his bad side, but you can't get away from him.

That's my impression of things.

nonaeroterraqueous said:

The issue was whether God can be separated from God.

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God cannot be separated from God.

But I was pointing out that the Biblical language appears to say that Christ was separated only from his physical body.

But now, in reply to this issue:

It's a general question of whether Hell is really completely absent of God.

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Jesus did not go to hell after the crucifixion.

disciple Clint said:

How would you answer this question. Where did Jesus go and what did He do after he died and before He rose from the dead?

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" Good tidings were proclaimed to the dead". This is the only verse in scripture that hints at Christ descending to hell. The other is the Apostles Creed, possibly written by Ambrose and not found in scripture. The fact is we do not know. Blessings.

disciple Clint said:

How would you answer this question. Where did Jesus go and what did He do after he died and before He rose from the dead?

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The Apostles' Creed reads, "descendit ad inferos"--"He descended into the lower regions" or "He descended into hell".

Christ went to the place of the dead.
The Harrowing of Hell.



-CryptoLutheran

disciple Clint said:

How would you answer this question. Where did Jesus go and what did He do after he died and before He rose from the dead?

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3 days and 3 nights in heart of earth Matthew 12:40

There was prophecy about Jesus letting captives free thats why John the baptist had dubts if he is the Messiah because he was in prison and Jesus was not freeing prisoners. He thought that Jesus will rescue him and others then overthrow Romans and be the Leader of some Rebellion then crowned a King like all Jews believe Messiah would do.

But no Christ died and he let out the captives free from hell under earth and they rose from the dead. Matthew 27:51-53

nonaeroterraqueous said:

There is no such thing as an absence of God, anywhere. If God is completely absent from a place, then the place does not exist. You can get on his bad side, but you can't get away from him.

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How then can you be a "nonexistent member?"

ViaCrucis said:

The Apostles' Creed reads, "descendit ad inferos"--"He descended into the lower regions" or "He descended into hell".

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What do you think of the difference between Roman Catholics and Greek Orthodox regarding the Harrowing of Hades?

Catholics believe that Christ preached to the spirits in Limbus Patrum. While Orthodox believe that He emptied the entire Hades.

The Orthodox view may imply that unrighteous spirits could be saved from Hades.