Suppose the election has been "stolen" ...

Albion said:

Not necessarily. In fact, it's not probable. That's because it is much easier to fix ballots for only the top of the ticket than to fill in all the other boxes as well.

And if wholesale fraud was engaged in for the purpose of electing Biden, the Democratic nominee for President, who do you suppose was doing it--Libertarians or Republicans or people with no preference?

That's completely illogical.

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Michigan, one of the key states where the results are being contested, has straight-ticket voting.

helmut said:

The fraud has not be done by the Democrats. If they had committed anything like that, they would also have made sure they get the majority in the Senate. So the most probable group of conspirators are republicans: They want to get rid of Trump, but keep the Senate.

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In states where Republicans held onto their Senate seats and won districts, but voted for Biden, that makes sense. It would indicate a repudiation of Trump himself by the right.

helmut said:

The fraud has been done very clever, because up to this point Trump and his lawyers could not find any proof that any fraud happened.

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I'll let the legal process play out, to see what, if anything is uncovered. I'll accept whatever the certified results are. Certification won't happen until next week in most states.

Erik Nelson said:

STUNNING TESTIMONY: Michigan Election Observer Shane Trejo Witnessed Drivers Bring in 50 Boxes of "Absentee Ballots" After Midnight Deadline into Detroit TCF Center at 3:30am

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Get in touch with Rudy Giuliani. I’m sure he’d love to hear it.

Sketcher said:

Michigan, one of the key states where the results are being contested, has straight-ticket voting.

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Yes. Did you have the idea that Michigan was the only state about which voting irregularities have been reported? It's not.

I'll let the legal process play out, to see what, if anything is uncovered.

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If only that were the view taken by all the Biden supporters, the whole country would benefit.

Albion said:

Yes. Did you have the idea that Michigan was the only state about which voting irregularities have been reported? It's not.

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I neither stated nor indicated that it was.

Albion said:

If only that were the view taken by all the Biden supporters, the whole country would benefit.

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Biden supporters and Trump supporters alike. There's an unfortunate number of people on both sides who do not listen to facts or reason.

Looks to be very fishy.
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Sketcher said:

I neither stated nor indicated that it was.

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Then what was your purpose when answering my comment about a problem that affects the nation by singling out Michigan in your rebuttal??

Erik Nelson said:

Considering as the Dominion database is located in Frankfurt, perhaps you do indeed have more accurate perspective?

Congressman Louie Gohmert Claims the U.S. Army Has Seized a Server in Germany Related to Dominion Software Vote Flipping Fraud | Happening Daily | Drudge Report Alternative

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lasthero said:

False reports claim election servers were seized in Germany

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Mr. Nelson. At what point, after posting false claim after false claim, do you perform any inspection of the propaganda before you share it?

Don't worry, it's a rhetorical question. We all know you will continue to post false claims with great frequency and utter disregard for the truth, as long as you believe it helps Trump or hurts Biden.

Albion said:

Then what was your purpose when answering my comment about a problem that affects the nation by singling out Michigan in your rebuttal??

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Because the circumstances in Michigan appear to be different from the national narrative, and still deserve to be looked at. The argument against fraud in states that had Republican Senators hang on to their seats which Biden also took is effective - the Democrats love power too much to let those seats go. But in Michigan, you have both straight-ticket voting, and a similar margin of victory by the Democrat Gary Peters to Biden's over Trump (Biden's margin was only slightly higher, both were close). If the Democrats were committing fraud, the results in other states would look a lot more like Michigan, so the allegations in Michigan deserve an even more serious look than the allegations from other states. And since it's a key battleground state with 16 electoral votes, it matters.

Sketcher said:

Because the circumstances in Michigan appear to be different from the national narrative, and still deserve to be looked at.

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Okay. I didn't say anything against that.