New York P.O. Worker Caught Withholding Mail That Included Ballots

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From the article:

he was in possession of three absentee ballots

Three ballots. From an employee who was slacking on the job rather than trying to commit electoral fraud.

Since the problem was employment-related, maybe we ought to beef up the USPS’ staffing and oversight... ya know... just like Dems have been trying to do.
 
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Clearly, New York was going to flip red...there were probably 800,000 Trump ballots there.

Obviously, i'm joking. 800,000 extra votes for Trump wouldn't be enough to flip New York.
Maybe NY would not flip red does not mean that it is O to have ballots that are not counted ( provided they were legal.
 
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Every vote is someone's voice. None of them - not one - should be silenced. Whether it's 1 or 1,000.

I hope that those ballots found their way to their appropriate destinations in time to be counted.

Unfortunately many ballots did not arrive on time. I think we can agree, we (the country) must do better next time. For a country that pioneered overnight document delivery 50 years ago, it's down right embarrassing that we can't manage to move every citizen's ballot on time.
 
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In an election where outcomes are being whittled down to small amounts of votes, every single ballot is crucial.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/usps-worker-arrested-at-canadian-border-with-undelivered-ballots/
LOL, thanks for the chuckle....

From the article:
"Customs and Border Protection found a huge bin of mail spanning several zip codes in the vehicle. Among them were three absentee ballots from the Erie County Board of Elections, authorities told the newspaper."

You cracked the case! The THREE absentee ballots in this guy's possession were the three that were going to hand Trump the win in New York!!!

Someone please inform the Trump Super Sleuth Team that we can now put NY in the WIN column for Trump!!!

By the way, for those who didn't read the article, here's the bottom line of the story (and anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong):
A mailman was being a bit lazy and would put a few pieces of mail that he forgot/neglected to deliver in a bin in the trunk of his car. Every once in a while he'd then put that mail back into another USPS sorting bin so that it would eventually get delivered. He had mail in this bin when he was caught with it at the border. Among all the mail in the bin, there were THREE absentee ballots. The article says only three, it does not say that there were any other absentee or mail-in ballots, just other articles of mail, and these THREE absentee ballots.

So, while the guy is probably going to get fired and with just cause, it was not some kind of voter fraud or anything like that. It was a guy cutting corners with his job and probably not really even impacting too many people too badly, and certainly not impacting the election. It's more that he violated some individual's rights with their mail, it's not some kind of voter fraud issue.
 
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I'm sure there are people who engage in electoral improprieties, but I think in nearly all cases, it won't be enough to flip any state, much less the outcome.
 
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Maybe NY would not flip red does not mean that it is O to have ballots that are not counted ( provided they were legal.

I'm not (unlike Trump supporters in PA or Georgia) saying that it's OK for votes not to be counted.

The person posting the OP has been making claims of election fraud, and 3 ballots mixed into undelivered mail in a state like NY isn't even a hint of evidence of it.

Talk about it in the context of "we need to fix this for next time", great.

Talk about it in the context of "Democrats are trying to steal the election", and it deserves ridicule.
 
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I'm not (unlike Trump supporters in PA or Georgia) saying that it's OK for votes not to be counted.

The person posting the OP has been making claims of election fraud, and 3 ballots mixed into undelivered mail in a state like NY isn't even a hint of evidence of it.

Talk about it in the context of "we need to fix this for next time", great.

Talk about it in the context of "Democrats are trying to steal the election", and it deserves ridicule.
I happen to be a Trump supporter in GA who feels that every LEGAL vote should be counted AND state law should be followed. Trump is asserting the same thing.
 
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Breaking news: Ousted corrupt ex-Democrat politicians claim Democrats steal votes and provides no evidence.

They do it all the time in places like Detroit, Chicago, and Philadelphia. They did, however, forget to do it in 2016. Races were close, but the corrupt Democrats really dropped the ball there.
 
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I happen to be a Trump supporter in GA who feels that every LEGAL vote should be counted AND state law should be followed. Trump is asserting the same thing.


What's your definition of legal? Trump seems to think legal means any votes counted by midnight of Nov 3 but not after, even though they arrived on time and local laws prevented them from being counted ahead of time as was done in other states. Except in AZ. There the counting MUST continue.
 
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What's your definition of legal? Trump seems to think legal means any votes counted by midnight of Nov 3 but not after, even though they arrived on time and local laws prevented them from being counted ahead of time as was done in other states. Except in AZ. There the counting MUST continue.
Legal means that the person lawfully casted a vote no mail in ballots sent to people who no longer lived at a address, yet would filed out any now. Legal means that ALL state and local laws were followed ( Including having observers with meaningful access. Legal also means that no one cast a vote who for whatever reason did not have that right.
 
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if we want to talk about mail fraud, how about the thousands of mail that trumps cronies lost in the mail.
Fraud on EITHER side is not right.
 
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