Has the Holy Spirit explicitly led you to keep the Sabbath?

pasifika said:

I applaud you for your understanding regarding the rest that we should enter into in which the writer of the book of Hebrew in Hebrew 4 is trying to explain...So, God rested on the seventh day after creation And we (people) will rest on day (“Today”) when we believe...As Hebrew 3 states that “We who believe enter that rest”...

So “Today” is the day we believe in God, so whatever day is that it called “today”...

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hmmm...I fail to see the TODAY of your every day rest...but in your acceptance of the Promise TODAY you will receive the sabbatismos...a seventh day of rest made Holy by Him...

Please recall:

Joshua 22:4And now that the LORD your God has given your brothers rest as He promised them, you may return to your homes in the land that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you across the Jordan. 5But be very careful to observe the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you: to love the LORD your God, to walk in all His ways, to keep His commandments, to hold fast to Him, and to serve Him with all your heart and with all your soul.”


But having arrived at their promised land Israel full of those NOT of Jacob was reminded to Remember the seventh day Sabbath...

Because


Exodus 33:14
And the LORD answered, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest."

So they were indeed given promised rest AND STILL the Sabbath remains...

Remember too all this was a request for a 3 days off for sacrifice festival...

Ex 5:5
And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them REST from their burdens.

The same Hebrew root as

Gen 2:2And by the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing; so on that day He RESTED from all His work. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on that day He RESTED from all the work of creation that He had accomplished.…

Hebrews 4 continues:

10 So ENTER His rest and you will cease from your works JUST AS Yah did from His...after six days of work...

11 Be diligent to enter THAT after six days of work rest lest you fall after the same example of Israel its disobedience

Nothing there about abide IN HIM is rest every day

Because John says if you claim to abide IN HIM you ought to live as He lived...JUST AS

Dave W said:

The point of Christ mentioning the destruction of Jerusalem and the Sabbath together was not to suggest that Jews would have to choose between Sabbath-keeping and saving their own lives but that He expected them to still be keeping the Sabbath and that a siege taking place on the Sabbath day would spoil it. This was, in fact, an excellent way for Christ to hint at the perpetuity of the law (all ten of them) after His time on earth.

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yes yes...can’t believe the energy spent rejecting a day off...lol

as if the temple stones could be toppled in one day...and the attempt to do so would be only on a Sabbath

never mind He addressed “let those of Judea flee” Matt 24:16 and the walls did not surround Judea but Jerusalem...

Bob S said:

You have to ge kidding. Did God keep the Nazies from ruining their Sabbaths? Did God keep the Babylonians from ruining their Sabbaths?

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nazis also ruined their sabbaths? of course not...it was still celebrated

not even a temple was needed to keep Jews Jewish in Babylon...calendar was enough

Rome too did not seek to destroy the Sabbath but the temple

Titus even allowed Christians AND Jews to leave prior...on any day they chose...

Sabbath was not chosen as a “RUN TO THE HILLS!” day...not because the gates were locked that day...you do understand under siege gates would be locked EVERY DAY Yes?...but as fleeing is not very restful or in the spirit of Sabbath rest...

All this is so simple. Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law and the prophets. Everyone agrees He fulfilled the prophecies. He is the end to all the prophecies concerning His coming. Why is it that you cannot agree that in fulfilling the Law He also meant He brought the Law to an end?

Not one jot of the Law could be done away until all Jesus came to do was fulfilled. Jesus came to fulfill the Law and the prophets so why do you deny that he didn't do all He came to do?

Jesus is the end of the covenant given only to Israel. He fulfilled, brought to an end, ALL of the laws of the Sinai covenant and established the new covenant, a better covenant with better laws not for just the Jews, but for all mankind. This was accomplished at Calvary where the new covenant was ratified not by the blood of animals, but by the Blood of our Savior Jesus Christ. Eph 2:14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

Yes, Jesus lived under the Sinai covenant and proved to all that He could keep the commands of that covenant and do so perfectly. As He said in Jn15: 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.

I know I belong to the TRUTH because I believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another as he commanded us. See 1Jn 3

clefty said:

nazis also ruined their sabbaths? of course not...it was still celebrated

not even a temple was needed to keep Jews Jewish in Babylon...calendar was enough

Rome too did not seek to destroy the Sabbath but the temple

Titus even allowed Christians AND Jews to leave prior...on any day they chose...

Sabbath was not chosen as a “RUN TO THE HILLS!” day...not because the gates were locked that day...you do understand under siege gates would be locked EVERY DAY Yes?...but as fleeing is not very restful or in the spirit of Sabbath rest...

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Jesus was the final sacrifice, but did that stop the Jews from killing animals and sacrificing them. Not until AD 70 did the sacrificial system come to an end. Rome forced that closure and the observance of the old covenant requirements have been pseudo practiced ever since. The Sabbath requirement ended at Calvary along with all the covenants requirements. No one, except Jesus, has ever kept the requirements God placed on Sabbath observance and especially since AD 70. The Levitical priesthood ended at Calvary where our Savior became all mankind's High Priest. After AD 70 there were no more pseudo priests and a temple to receive the Sabbath offerings.
Sabbath Offerings Numbers 8:29
“‘On the Sabbath day, make an offering of two lambs a year old without defect, together with its drink offering and a grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with olive oil.

Bob S said:

All this is so simple. Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law and the prophets. Everyone agrees He fulfilled the prophecies. He is the end to all the prophecies concerning His coming. Why is it that you cannot agree that in fulfilling the Law He also meant He brought the Law to an end?

Not one jot of the Law could be done away until all Jesus came to do was fulfilled. Jesus came to fulfill the Law and the prophets so why do you deny that he didn't do all He came to do?

Jesus is the end of the covenant given only to Israel. He fulfilled, brought to an end, ALL of the laws of the Sinai covenant and established the new covenant, a better covenant with better laws not for just the Jews, but for all mankind. This was accomplished at Calvary where the new covenant was ratified not by the blood of animals, but by the Blood of our Savior Jesus Christ. Eph 2:14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

Yes, Jesus lived under the Sinai covenant and proved to all that He could keep the commands of that covenant and do so perfectly. As He said in Jn15: 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.

I know I belong to the TRUTH because I believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another as he commanded us. See 1Jn 3

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So by fulfilled you mean He DID destroy/do away the Law...and we are allowed to:

Worship another god
Make images and worship them
Take His name in vain
Dishonor our parents
Kill
Steal
Lie (obviously)
Covet

Notice AGAIN I did not include commit adultery as that was specifically listed in the Jerusalem council as STILL binding on gentiles coming into synagogues to hear of One resurrected to forgive ALL...oh and to hear Moses EVERY Sabbath as James concluded WOULD continue...the OTHER living oracle those NOT of Jacob were given at Sinai Acts 15:21

So I will not let your rebellion override the decision of Acts 15 including its 3 levitical dietary restrictions for gentiles coming into synagogues every Sabbath...

Oh by the way...things STRANGLED was INCLUSIVE of a found carcass...the eating of which made one unclean both native and foreigner...Lev 17:15 as carcasses were NOT to be eaten by native but could be given to alien or sold to foreigner...Deut 14:21

Please be sophisticated enough to realize the 3 categories in this text regarding a carcass/suffocated/strangled animal:

1. Native NOT TO EAT
2. Alien GIVEN to eat
3. Foreigner SOLD to eat

And NOW realize what category these gentiles crowding synagogues on Sabbath were INCLUDED INTO by the conclusion they were NOT to eat of things strangled...

NATIVE...yup...accepted as NATIVE...adopted INTO the family grafted INTO ISRAEL as they are NOT to eat carcass/strangled

How about we reconsider what YOU mean by fulfill which destroys the Law.

πληρῶσαι (plērōsai) — 4 Occurrences

Matthew 3:15 V-ANA
GRK: ἐστὶν ἡμῖν πληρῶσαι πᾶσαν δικαιοσύνην
NAS: it is fitting for us to fulfill all
KJV: us to fulfil all
INT: it is to us to fulfill all righteousness
Or do you mean Yahushua conspired with the Baptizer to DESTROY/DO AWAY WITH all righteousness?


Matthew 5:17 V-ANA
GRK: καταλῦσαι ἀλλὰ πληρῶσαι
NAS: to abolish but to fulfill.
KJV: to destroy, but to fulfil.
INT: to abolish but to fulfill [them]
Yes you DO mean He came to DESTROY/DO AWAY WITH


Romans 15:13 V-AOA-3S
GRK: τῆς ἐλπίδος πληρώσαι ὑμᾶς πάσης
NAS: of hope fill you with all
KJV: the God of hope fill you with all
INT: of hope may fill you with all
or do you mean Paul wished Yah DESTROY them with joy and peace?

Colossians 1:25 V-ANA
GRK: εἰς ὑμᾶς πληρῶσαι τὸν λόγον
NAS: on me for your benefit, so that I might fully carry out the [preaching of] the word
KJV: for you, to fulfil the word of God;
INT: toward you to complete the word
Or do you mean Paul was a minister to DESTROY the word of Yah? Ironically the way YOU use him you do...

So what was that about the slandering Jew’s FALSE WITNESS that Stephen taught “Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered”? Acts 6:13-14 Luke was clear Stephen did NOT teach this as Yahushua did NOT DO this...

He instead instructed “THINK NOT THAT” but you insist He did...despite His instruction...

What is so simple is that IF you claim to abide in Him you must live as He did...JUST AS...1 John 2:6

Bob S said:

Jesus was the final sacrifice, but did that stop the Jews from killing animals and sacrificing them. Not until AD 70 did the sacrificial system come to an end. Rome forced that closure and the observance of the old covenant requirements have been pseudo practiced ever since. The Sabbath requirement ended at Calvary along with all the covenants requirements. No one, except Jesus, has ever kept the requirements God placed on Sabbath observance and especially since AD 70. The Levitical priesthood ended at Calvary where our Savior became all mankind's High Priest. After AD 70 there were no more pseudo priests and a temple to receive the Sabbath offerings.
Sabbath Offerings Numbers 8:29
“‘On the Sabbath day, make an offering of two lambs a year old without defect, together with its drink offering and a grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with olive oil.

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Please try and see with Spriitual eyes that which is spiritual...Paul includes the Law...

Sabbath was instituted PRIOR sin...Isreal its Jews and sacrifices on Sabbath...

We are still to sacrifice...1/7 days is about 15% tip for service provided...ya dig?

What ended at the cross was you paying with your life sacrificed forever...as IN HIM the SECOND death HAS NO POWER over us...

Again SIMPLE...

Live as He did and JUST AS...
Love as He loves us...JUST AS...

And OBVIOUSLY you wil fulfill the Law...as He never served those He loved Sunday Ham today...

Simple.

As His people will be restored to live RE-made INTO HIS IMAGE with those SAME FACTORY INSTALLED MANUFACTURER’S DEFAULT SETTINGS...as when Sabbath was first instituted...

HalleluYah

“="Bob S, post: 75430621, member: 382831"]All this is so simple. Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law and the prophets. Everyone agrees He fulfilled the prophecies. He is the end to all the prophecies concerning His coming. Why is it that you cannot agree that in fulfilling the Law He also meant He brought the Law to an end?

Not one jot of the Law could be done away until all Jesus came to do was fulfilled. Jesus came to fulfill the Law and the prophets so why do you deny that he didn't do all He came to do?”

This is your religious philosophy BS, not the Christ’s. Passover is just the beginning of Salvation, not the end as you and the Catholic religion promotes. Jesus has much more to “fulfill” as prophesied in the Examples He had written for our admonition. If He doesn’t “fulfill” His Prophesied return and subsequent judgment then His Life will have been in vain, much less His Death and Resurrection.
You are free to preach that Jesus has already “Fulfilled” ALL that is written about Him if you want. But this teaching is a deception.

Studyman said:

“="Bob S, post: 75430621, member: 382831"]

This is your religious philosophy BS

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Hey! watch your language!!

That is not HIS religious philosophy...but most of Christendom’s...

lol

clefty said:

Hey! watch your language!!

That is not HIS religious philosophy...but most of Christendom’s...

lol

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His name is Bob S, he calls me SM for short, I call him BS for short. Maybe you shouldn’t be in such a hurry to judge.

If most of Christendom teaches that Jesus has already fulfilled everything He was Prophesied to do in the Law and Prophets, then wouldn’t this would be the “broad path” Jesus spoke of in Matt. 7? Since obviously He has yet to “fulfill” His most glorious return, a Prophecy which has yet to be fulfilled.

Studyman said:

“="Bob S, post: 75430621, member: 382831"]All this is so simple. Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law and the prophets. Everyone agrees He fulfilled the prophecies. He is the end to all the prophecies concerning His coming. Why is it that you cannot agree that in fulfilling the Law He also meant He brought the Law to an end?

Not one jot of the Law could be done away until all Jesus came to do was fulfilled. Jesus came to fulfill the Law and the prophets so why do you deny that he didn't do all He came to do?”

This is your religious philosophy BS, not the Christ’s. Passover is just the beginning of Salvation, not the end as you and the Catholic religion promotes. Jesus has much more to “fulfill” as prophesied in the Examples He had written for our admonition. If He doesn’t “fulfill” His Prophesied return and subsequent judgment then His Life will have been in vain, much less His Death and Resurrection.
You are free to preach that Jesus has already “Fulfilled” ALL that is written about Him if you want. But this teaching is a deception.

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Your post seems to conclude that you didn't perceive what I wrote. Too bad.

LoveGodsWord said:

Nonsense. No one enters God's rest by not believing and following his Word and breaking his commandments. These are the very one that do not enter His rest. Read Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4.

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You really need to ask the Holy Spirit to teach you...human knowledge is nonsense...Hebrews 4:3..We who have believed enter that rest..

So you don’t have to believe the good news only on the 7th day of each week to enter His rest, because once you believe you enter His rest Everyday until His coming...

I know is a lot to know about these chapters (Hebrews 3&4)

Studyman said:

His name is Bob S, he calls me SM for short, I call him BS for short. Maybe you shouldn’t be in such a hurry to judge.

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maybe you should lighten up as I was lol...typically BS does NOT stand for a name

If most of Christendom teaches that Jesus has already fulfilled everything He was Prophesied to do in the Law and Prophets, then wouldn’t this would be the “broad path” Jesus spoke of in Matt. 7? Since obviously He has yet to “fulfill” His most glorious return, a Prophecy which has yet to be fulfilled.

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Most Christendom indeed teaches the Sabbath was fulfilled and now chooses Sunday instead...

that festival of trumpets...day of atONEment...festival of booths...is STILL to be fulfilled is ALSO NOT taught by Christendom...

clefty said:

Please try and see with Spriitual eyes that which is spiritual...Paul includes the Law...

Sabbath was instituted PRIOR sin...Isreal its Jews and sacrifices on Sabbath...

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Institute =
a: to originate and get established : ORGANIZE
b: to set going : INAUGURATE

Sabbath, according to scripture and not your theory, was established after crossing the Red Sea. Notice God didn't require the Israelites to stop in their flight out of Egypt to celebrate the Sabbath.

We are still to sacrifice...1/7 days is about 15% tip for service provided...ya dig?

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Sacrifice??? Now you call it a sacrifice?

What ended at the cross was you paying with your life sacrificed forever...as IN HIM the SECOND death HAS NO POWER over us...

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Funny that it is not what the verses are telling us.

Again SIMPLE...

Live as He did and JUST AS...
Love as He loves us...JUST AS...

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I am pretty sure Jesus didn't cut His sideburns as the Law required an He observed all of the laws that pertained to the lay person. Are you able to testify that you too live by all the laws of the Sinai covenant that were imposed on the Israelites?

And OBVIOUSLY you wil fulfill the Law...as He never served those He loved Sunday Ham today...

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What is your big issue with Ham? Noah was allowed to eat it. Civilized nations from early domesticated swine and I guarantee it was not to make footballs.

Simple.

As His people will be restored to live RE-made INTO HIS IMAGE with those SAME FACTORY INSTALLED MANUFACTURER’S DEFAULT SETTINGS...as when Sabbath was first instituted...

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the future is to be seen my friend. As for now we are free to worship and rest as the Holy Spirit guides. Just a bobservation: I don't see people rushing to church on Saturday, so if it is so very important to our Christian life wouldn't you think that the Holy Spirit would be sending everyone signals. Instead many do rush to football games, malls and recreational places.

clefty said:

hmmm...I fail to see the TODAY of your every day rest...but in your acceptance of the Promise TODAY you will receive the sabbatismos...a seventh day of rest made Holy by Him...

Please recall:

Joshua 22:4And now that the LORD your God has given your brothers rest as He promised them, you may return to your homes in the land that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you across the Jordan. 5But be very careful to observe the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you: to love the LORD your God, to walk in all His ways, to keep His commandments, to hold fast to Him, and to serve Him with all your heart and with all your soul.”


But having arrived at their promised land Israel full of those NOT of Jacob was reminded to Remember the seventh day Sabbath...

Because


Exodus 33:14
And the LORD answered, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest."

So they were indeed given promised rest AND STILL the Sabbath remains...

Remember too all this was a request for a 3 days off for sacrifice festival...

Ex 5:5
And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them REST from their burdens.

The same Hebrew root as

Gen 2:2And by the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing; so on that day He RESTED from all His work. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on that day He RESTED from all the work of creation that He had accomplished.…

Hebrews 4 continues:

10 So ENTER His rest and you will cease from your works JUST AS Yah did from His...after six days of work...

11 Be diligent to enter THAT after six days of work rest lest you fall after the same example of Israel its disobedience

Nothing there about abide IN HIM is rest every day

Because John says if you claim to abide IN HIM you ought to live as He lived...JUST AS

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“Today” is the day we ( Gods people) enter into Gods rest just as God rest from His works on the 7th day in creation..

So the 7th day is the day that God rested from His works...
And “Today” is the day We (people) enter into that rest...

so I will explain what “today” meant in Hebrews 3&4...”today” is the day when We believe the Good news ( Gospels), when someone believed in the Gospel, He or She will be just like Jesus on this earth...As Jesus said in John 14:12...Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in Me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than theses...

The works is about doing good ( love) to those who needed ie heal the sick, feed the hunger, clothe the naked, open eyes of blind, chase demons out etc...you can read all those great works in the gospels...

pasifika said:

You really need to ask the Holy Spirit to teach you...human knowledge is nonsense...Hebrews 4:3..We who have believed enter that rest..

So you don’t have to believe the good news only on the 7th day of each week to enter His rest, because once you believe you enter His rest Everyday until His coming...

I know is a lot to know about these chapters (Hebrews 3&4)

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Thank you dear friend but I do everyday seek JESUS to guide me and teach me His Word through his Spirit. So why do you not turn away from the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God and ask God's Spirit to guide and teach you? We must be careful as it is true according to the scriptures in Isaiah, Matthew and Acts, that many simply choose to close their eyes and ears from hearing God's Word in order to follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God. These are those foretold in the scriptures as crying peace and safety by Paul just before sudden destruction comes. They heap together for themselves teachers having itching ears and vain janglings turning away from sound doctrine where they are said to have a form of godliness but denying God's power to save them from their sins according to Timothy. JESUS says that it is because they choose not to hear His Words and follow them that he talks in parables to them and that men love darkness rather then the light because their deeds are evil. These are they he says at the second coming to depart from him because they practice sin which John and James defines as breaking his commandments or not believing and following His Word. Nope don't want to be a part of that group. The scripture have already been provided in post # 208; post # 209 and post # 219 linked showing why your post and claims are in error. You have no scripture that says JESUS is a Sabbath and the Sabbath is only defined in the scriptures as the "seventh day" Exodus 20:10 of creation that God blessed, and set apart as a Holy day of rest *Genesis 2:1-3 and JESUS is the Lord or creator of it that he made for all mankind *Mark 2:27-28. Your interpretation of the scriptures has JESUS creating himself, and blessing himself after he made himself a holy day of rest on the seventh day of the week after creating all things in heaven and earth for all mankind. Now honestly how does that make sense and where is the scripture support for that view? -Yep you have none. Time to turn away from the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God according to the scriptures. As posted earlier according to the scriptures, no one enters into God's rest by not believing God's Word and breaking his commandments. These are they we are warned about in Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4. The "another day" is that referred to as the another day of preaching of the gospel through the coming of JESUS and believing it, not another Sabbath. The Gospel was preached to them as well as us but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. So do you know these scriptures dear friend and what do you think they mean?

LoveGodsWord said:

That did not happen at the same times. Perhaps you need to study it through more.

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Nicea was the first official ecumenical council to declare the books of the Bible. Some were deemed inspired before Nicea but there were also many who claimed other books were inspired as well before Nicea that are not included in the Bible we have today. So just because people said the books that are in the Bible today were inspired writings before Nicea doesn’t mean it was officially canonized, they just happened to be right. The official canonization happened at Nicea at the same time Sunday was declared acceptable to worship on.

clefty said:

LOL...I am not saying it...just read what was concluded in the text that you posted...3 dietary Laws ALREADY in Leviticus for "strangers within they gates"...REMEMBER them from the Sabbath commandment?

Or do you really expect that draining the blood out of DOG MEAT made it suitable fellowship potlucks at the synagogues after hearing Moses on Sabbath...?

"BUT BUT BUT MOISHE...I made sure this rats in this rat stew were NOT strangled"...LOL


Just read your bible...Acts 15

Remember Peter said NOTHING about being able to eat cats rats or wombats after his vision but that the dirty goyim actually were NOT...and should be given the HOPE of Israel...the PROMISE they wanted to keep for themselves...as if His House of prayer was NOT for ALL nations...that WHOSOEVER believes shall NOT perish but live in this life and the NEXT...and free from unclean meats...lol

or do you expect we gonna eat pigs in heaven too? or in the new world?

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First it was all about the 10 commandments and the ritual laws were abolished, which the Sabbath is a ritual law, then it was the moral laws we must keep, noting immoral about not keeping the Sabbath, now dietary laws are still in effect which are also not moral laws. Like I said there’s no reason to the madness you just pick which ones you want and obey those and rebuke others who disagree with you.

BNR32FAN said:

Nicea was the first official ecumenical council to declare the books of the Bible. Some were deemed inspired before Nicea but there were also many who claimed other books were inspired as well before Nicea that are not included in the Bible we have today. So just because people said the books that are in the Bible today were inspired writings before Nicea doesn’t mean it was officially canonized, they just happened to be right. The official canonization happened at Nicea at the same time Sunday was declared acceptable to worship on.

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Hmm nope....

"The Catholic Church provided a conciliar definition of its Biblical canon in 382 at the (local) Council of Rome (based upon the Decretum Gelasianum, of uncertain authorship) as well as at the Council of Trent of 1545, reaffirming the Canons of Florence of 1442 and North African Councils (Hippo and Carthage) of 393–419" Funny that the scholars disagree to a lot of what is put out there.You may find the rest of this article interesting as well from Biblical Canon (Wikipedia).

Also, it is quite interesting that Sunday has its origin in pagan Rome which was later adopted by papal Rome...

Sunday actually made very little headway as a Christian day of rest until the time of Constantine in the fourth century. Constantine was emperor of Rome from AD 306 to 337. He was a sun worshiper during the first years of his reign. Later, he professed conversion to Christianity, but at heart remained a devotee of the sun. Edward Gibbon says, “The Sun was universally celebrated as the invincible guide and protector of Constantine.”

Constantine's Conversion by Peter Paul Rubens

Constantine created the earliest Sunday law known to history in AD 321. It says this:

"On the venerable Day of the sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country, however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits: because it often happens that another Day is not so suitable for grain sowing or for vine planting: lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost." (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church Volume 3 (Edinburgh: 1884): 380, note)

Chamber’s Encyclopedia says this:

"Unquestionably the first law, either ecclesiastical or civil, by which the Sabbatical observance of that Day is known to have been ordained, is the edict of Constantine, 321 A.D."
( “Sabbath,” Chamber’s Encyclopedia Volume 11 (1982): 401, as quoted in Bible Readings for the Home Circle revised edition (Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1920).

Following this initial legislation, both emperors and Popes in succeeding centuries added other laws to strengthen Sunday observance. What began as a pagan ordinance ended as a Christian regulation by the Roman Catholic Church. Close on the heels of the Edict of Constantine followed the Catholic Church Council of Laodicea (circa 364 AD)....

"Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday (Sabbath), but shall work on that Day: but the Lord’s Day, they shall especially honour; and as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If however, they are found Judaizing, they shall be shut out from Christ." (Rev. Charles Joseph Hefele, Henry N. Oxenham (trans.), A History of the Church Councils from 326 to 429 Volume 2 (Edinburgh: T. and T. Clark, 1896): 316.)

Hope this helps.

Bob S said:

Institute =

a: to originate and get established : ORGANIZE
b: to set going : INAUGURATE

Sabbath, according to scripture and not your theory, was established after crossing the Red Sea. Notice God didn't require the Israelites to stop in their flight out of Egypt to celebrate the Sabbath.

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He didn’t require the other nine either?

The irony it was a cessation of work which Pharaoh complained of Exodus 5:5

And that Sabbath was counted with manna prior the receiving the Law...

The commandment itself lists WHY they were to keep it: because in six days He created...and then rested...blessing and hallowing it THEN at creation when it was made for man...not at Sinai...

Let’s play your silly game though...let’s pretend that had we NOT fallen we would NOT be keeping what was MADE FOR US...And that Melchizedek was High Priest of another set or NO set of Laws...and that Abraham obeyed NOT ALL His commandments...

But then having been at Sinai are you NOT part of Israel which received the living oracles already full of those NOT of Jacob? Are you NOT the strangers within the gates...which was affirmed at Acts 15 for the gentiles to KEEP hearing every Sabbath?

Sacrifice??? Now you call it a sacrifice?

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of time?...an alms giving to the temple of Time...an offering? Tithe? What is the issue...returning His to Him is a blessing or?

Funny that it is not what the verses are telling us.

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oh no? The handwritten ordinances of condemnation sentencing you are to pay for your sins were NOT done away with at the cross?

I am pretty sure Jesus didn't cut His sideburns as the Law required an He observed all of the laws that pertained to the lay person. Are you able to testify that you too live by all the laws of the Sinai covenant that were imposed on the Israelites?

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do I send photos of beard length now? You swallow camels to strain at gnats...how about we resolve Sabbath first...as they did in Acts 15...

What is your big issue with Ham?

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Ham was cursed after discovering Noah naked...lol

Later in the NT even flavored by demons...

Noah was allowed to eat it.

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was he? All plants were also to eat...including the poisonous ivies? How about only seed bearing and herbs? Is the text...

Clean animals came into the ark in sevens and the unclean only a male and female...

Or do you mean Noah did NOT keep the other Laws either?

You really do wish to divide His kingdom don’t you between some that did vs some that did not think they needed to...

Civilized nations from early domesticated swine and I guarantee it was not to make footballs.

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yes yes...all this was to have us be like the other nations...and with their silly distractions...and other idols

the future is to be seen my friend.

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Isaiah saw it and concludes Sabbath to Sabbath ALL will worship...

John too “Here are they that keep the commandments of Yah and have the faith OF Yahushua”...did His faith include Sunday Ham and football games? Certainly NOT college games...lol

As for now we are free to worship and rest as the Holy Spirit guides.

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IF WE ALLOW HIM TO...NOT resisting Him His leading us INTO keeping the living oracles as we are MADE IN HIS IMAGE is His work of regeneration IN US the dead to self and RE-born IN HIM...the RE-making of us into His image...again...as it was PRIOR the fall...when there was already the Sabbath...REMEMBER?

Just a bobservation: I don't see people rushing to church on Saturday, so if it is so very important to our Christian life wouldn't you think that the Holy Spirit would be sending everyone signals. Instead many do rush to football games, malls and recreational places.

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Ok brother...Let’s not be boblivious about all this...

The way...is INDEED narrow...for a reason...His Way is hated by the world...AND by those that cry “Lord! LORD!” But do NOT do...

not even Israel while this church was in the wilderness CHOSE from direct guidance and instruction...

but a remnant will be the ones who “Here are they” and be “where I AM ye may be also”...and FINALLY “on earth as it is in Heaven” “His will be done”...

might we prepare and practice NOW for that...to be His people as it was BEFORE this detour of sin...and before the rejection of what was made for us...thinking ALL was to be eaten...

HalleluYah