Biden - Trump Debate - 1

hedrick said:

One of the news stories says it's fairly common in Washington among younger State Dept people and military who have served in the Middle East.

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I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Morocco 40 years ago and still say it, my kids picked it up and use it occasionally.

JohnDB said:

No...none of that. Just very old and unable to express anything coherently except for the name calling and disrespectful behavior.
Like early stages of dimentia.

When you can't get the name of the college you went to correct....and you can't answer a softball question you should have no problem answering (he had done it before) and then you blather, huff and puff about something completely different that makes no sense due to being not relevant or related....you lose points to the moderator... especially when he asked him twice and got no answer.

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As I say, I haven't seen it yet. I have heard various commentaries on the radio and TV and they seem to be at odds with your description.

Jimmy D said:

As I say, I haven't seen it yet. I have heard various commentaries on the radio and TV and they seem to be at odds with your description.

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Both sides Democrats and Republicans are going to claim their candidate won. MSM is very definitely Democrat centered in their reporting.

But when I give points to the moderator for nailing Joe with tough questions...that's why Democrats are claiming any reason they can for Joe not to do anymore debates.

To me, the most serious part of the debate was Trump's apparent endorsement of the Proud Boys. You can expect a clip of that to be featured in Biden's ads.

JohnDB said:

Trump scored the most points in the debate...

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trump didn't score any points, but if you're counting insults, off topic rants, and psychotic fits of incoherence ... yeah, trump won.

JohnDB said:

Just very old and unable to express anything coherently except for the name calling and disrespectful behavior.

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He was badgered by that disgraceful performance by Trump who should have been disqualified for no respect for the agreed rules..

wing2000 said:

The 3rd time, Biden should have simply said: "Since you can't stick to your campaign's commitment, the remaining two debates are off the table."

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HI wing,

Well, the debates do allow undecideds and even some who may not be sure about their vote, even though they may have already formulated who they intend to vote for, an opportunity to hear each candidates position. Personally, it might be better for Mr. Biden to continue the debate schedule so that some people have an opportunity to really see what an ill bred bully Little Donnie Trump is. An opportunity to think to themselves...Do I really support such a person as that as the leader of my country? Ill mannered, unruly, and really unable to formulate plans for a lot of the issues that really affect American's day to day life.

Chris asked him about his healthcare plan. Little Donnie Trump's response was the same that he's always given. 'Oh, I have a great plan. A glorious plan that's so much better than anything anyone else could ever have come up with. A plan that's going to give everyone better health coverage for less money.'

Ok, well, what is it?







Silence. He has no plan. There is no better, grander, more glorious, better coverage that costs less plan. It's all just smoke and mirrors. It's all just a lot of worthless talk from a man who knows that the real suckers and losers are the ones who believe him. And believe him they do! It's as if all those people that PT Barnum is claimed to have mentioned, that are born every minute, have all gathered together and chosen a leader.

God bless,
Ted

miamited said:

Little Donnie Trump's

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Ummm
You are being rather derogatory to the Republicans hero.

And secondly...
Trump looked fat...Joe looked frail. Neither looked good.

hedrick said:

In a recording, lots of things are ambiguous. But it appears he did say it, and used it colloquially in a way that Muslims often do. The One-Word Mystery of the Presidential Debate That Roused Muslims (and Right-Wing Bloggers)

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lol, that's funny. I wish more people knew the reference (including myself) so the joke would've landed better.

Akita Suggagaki said:

He was badgered by that disgraceful performance by Trump who should have been disqualified for no respect for the agreed rules..

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Same thing then should have happened to Clinton in both debates with Bush SR and Bob Dole.

But it didn't.

Never mind, misunderstood your phrasing.

lasthero said:

They should’ve both interrupted their opponents and ignored the rules of a civilized debate?

This legit baffles me. Why? How is that the way a person should act in a debate? It feels like some really just want these debates to be nothing more the unguided shouting matches, and I don’t see how that benefits anyone.

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It doesn't....
This is why Ronald Reagan really made whopping gains from debates...he educated the people and was a likeable guy.
He explained what he wanted to do and very simply why.
Trump and Biden were both offered several questions to do the same. Trump missed them out of the gate but hit them in the rebuttals
Biden didn't even try to explain anything...he just told the president to shut up and then did some name calling.

miamited said:

HI wing,
Personally, it might be better for Mr. Biden to continue the debate schedule so that some people have an opportunity to really see what an ill bred bully Little Donnie Trump is.

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Miamited I happen to notice you like using the statement, "Little Donnie Trump". Is that because Trump calls Bloomberg, "Little Mike"? I'm guessing you would find that distasteful but you want to roll around in the same mud? Just curious.

Ill mannered, unruly, and really unable to formulate plans for a lot of the issues

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As for your claim that the President can't formulate plans I'm thinking a lot of people disagree with you. As for him not always showing the best of manners how do the Dems score any better? I think that's what Americans would like to know.

Chris asked him about his healthcare plan. Little Donnie Trump's response was the same that he's always given. 'Oh, I have a great plan. A glorious plan that's so much better than anything anyone else could ever have come up with. A plan that's going to give everyone better health coverage for less money.'

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And yet Biden stonewalled genuine questions that should have been answered.

It's all just a lot of worthless talk from a man who knows that the real suckers and losers are the ones who believe him.

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And you don't want to have any influence at all by seeking to persuade some Trump supporters to consider voting different? Aren't you in effect are claiming in an uncharitable way that all Trump supporters are suckers.

A spoonful of honey will catch more flies than a gallon of vinegar.
Benjamin Franklin.

Nithavela said:

Trump will just lean over and rant into Biden's mic.

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Hi nithavela,

Yes, that's what I was referencing when I said he'd just go over and rip off the mic and continue to rant his poisonous agenda.

God bless,
Ted

Skreeper said:

I just love how Trump claimed in the debate that even the Portland sheriff is endorsing him. 5 minutes later the sheriff posts this:

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Just another indication that Trump just keeps on lying. Based on the Snopes fact-checking basically every claim coming from Trump was either false or twisted.

But to the average Trump voter I doubt it matters if what he actually says is true, the thing that matters to these people is how confident the person is who is saying these things.

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I honestly don’t know why he keeps crowing about the police unions supporting him. Like that’s a surprise? Every other union endorsed Biden or is at least supporting Biden.

Hi bobber,

Bobber said:

Miamited I happen to notice you like using the statement, "Little Donnie Trump". Is that because Trump calls Bloomberg, "Little Mike"? I'm guessing you would find that distasteful but you want to roll around in the same mud? Just curious.

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Bobber said:

Aren't you in effect are claiming in an uncharitable way that all Trump supporters are suckers.

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Yes, and yes. I'm glad that you noticed.

God bless,
Ted

Hi again bobber,

Again thanks for your response to my post:

Bobber said:

As for your claim that the President can't formulate plans I'm thinking a lot of people disagree with you. As for him not always showing the best of manners how do the Dems score any better? I think that's what Americans would like to know.

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While I don't hold out the 'likes' and 'winner' and 'agree' as the holy grail of truth. It does appear, at least on this thread, that there are more in agreement with my assessment than yours.

Listen, you get to vote for whoever you think is the best person for the job and I allow you that constitutional right. However, using false facts to support a position isn't particularly wise. The 'dems' score a lot better at showing basic civility towards others. Yes, they do, just as I have, from time to time wallow in the mud when speaking of Little Donnie Trump, but they aren't in the habit of calling everyone else some derogatory and denigrating name...for the most part. You can search the world over and you won't find a great many examples of any democrat in a leadership position speaking to others by referring to them with name calling.

Now, let me be clear that I am speaking of democrats in leadership positions. Yes, we can all find democrats and republican supporters that use name calling quite a lot. It's actually become much worse over the last 3 years because of the example that is being set as to it's acceptance to do such a thing.

I'm not clear on what questions Mr. Biden stonewalled on. Could you give some examples or point me to the time reference on a link of the debate? Now, did he answer to spluttering questions that Little Donnie Trump asked of him while Little Donnie Trump was interrupting and bulldozing Mr. Biden's two minute 'uninterrupted' time for answering? No! The debate wasn't for him to answer Little Donnie Trumps questions, but the questions asked of him by the moderator, Chris Wallace.

In a debate such as this, there is a moderator who asks prepared questions and the debaters are given an opportunity to express their positions on the subject of the questions. It isn't set up so that each of the debaters get to bombard the other debater with their own loaded questions. Mr. Biden chose, and I believe rightfully so, to pretty much ignore Little Donnie Trumps unrestrained outbursts. Yes, there were a couple of times that he got drawn into it, and that's not a good thing and something that I'm sure Mr. Biden will work to improve for the next debate.

God bless,
Ted

wing2000 said:

He's an Al Qaeda sleeper agent receiving instructions via the ear piece Biden was allegedly wearing.

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What, did ISIS get the debate questions early too?

/s

JohnDB said:

It doesn't....
This is why Ronald Reagan really made whopping gains from debates...[...] Trump missed them out of the gate but hit them in the rebuttals

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Let me try to cool down this heated discussion with some facts:

The first post-debate polls say Biden won