The conversion of St. Saul

Carl Emerson said:

How then do you account for Acts 13:6-12 ?

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I can't account for it. 40 authors wrote the Bible over a period of 1,500 years and there is no support for the writings that Jesus blinds people to convert them to Christianity.

Romans 10:9-10
Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. (Unless struck blind by Jesus of course)

Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God
(Unless struck blind by Jesus of course)



Romans 10:13
For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
(Unless blinded by Jesus of course)

John 3:5
Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. (Or be blinded by Jesus of course)

Acts 2:38-39
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Unless blinded by Jesus of course)

Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
(Or be blinded by Jesus of course)

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Carl Emerson said:

Does the bible need more support than itself?

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No, it does an excellent job.

John 8:12
Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world.
Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

Granted, I do discount the validity of any passages not supported by other writers.
God is not so stupid as to rely on any one writer for anything important.
He has forty writers to cover anything of value to believers.

miamited said:

Hi skywriting,

You asked:


Yes, it happened to Saul of Tarsus. I'm not sure what you're trying to infer by asking if such a thing has ever happened to anyone else. When God causes some physical thing to happen in this realm of His creating, He rarely repeats it.

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Assuming you were correct that he rarely repeats things, they usually have a "mirror equivalent". There is no such for this event. Jesus doesn't blind people. It's not His style.

As for Mary getting pregnant. God does put Jesus inside each of us supernaturally.

But Jesus doesn't blind people. To force them to see the light.

Michael Collum said:

That's a good question.

I wasn't there.

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Scripture and History says not.

miamited said:

Well, it seems that you obviously have some issue with Saul's conversion. I hope that you're able to get it worked out. I've always found prayer and beseeching for the wisdom and knowledge of the Holy Spirit in such circumstances.

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It was the Holy Spirit that has shown me that Pails writings cause 95% of the conflict in forums. "Because Jesus did not blind him" is the solution.

Carl Emerson said:

Are you trying to make a case for God not killing people?

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If God killed people, it would be painless.
If God killed people the worst would die young and saints would live the longest.
Saints would live life with less pain than anyone.
Death would be tied to lawlessness.

Carl Emerson said:

How then do you account for Acts 13:6-12 ???

6When they had gone through the whole island as far as Paphos, they found a magician, a Jewish false prophet whose name was Bar-Jesus, 7who was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus, a man of intelligence. This man summoned Barnabas and Saul and sought to hear the word of God. 8But Elymas the magician (for so his name is translated) was opposing them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. 9But Saul, who was also known as Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, fixed his gaze on him, 10and said, “You who are full of all deceit and fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to make crooked the straight ways of the Lord? 11“Now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you will be blind and not see the sun for a time.” And immediately a mist and a darkness fell upon him, and he went about seeking those who would lead him by the hand. 12Then the proconsul believed when he saw what had happened, being amazed at the teaching of the Lord.

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Paul could have these powers because he was not blinded by Jesus, who does not have this power. The only thing God can do is create a strong deception. He can't do what the Devil can do and bring darkness. It's not God's nature.