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Yoga - It's Not Evil or Anti-Christian
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Not if it is spiritual...
Nonsense... The bible teaches no such thing.
This forum is Controversial Christian Theology, not some Eastern counterfeit.
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Well just read through the NT when Jesus and the Apostles confronted people possessed by demons. They can do supernatural things through a human body.
Mark 5
They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes. 2 When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3 This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. 4 For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.
6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God’s name don’t torture me!” 8 For Jesus had said to him, “Come out of this man, you impure spirit!”
9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”
“My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” 10 And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.
11 A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12 The demons begged Jesus, “Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.” 13 He gave them permission, and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.
14 Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened. 15 When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid. 16 Those who had seen it told the people what had happened to the demon-possessed man—and told about the pigs as well. 17 Then the people began to plead with Jesus to leave their region.
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This is just silly.. its so easy to search just what yoga was and still is today. It never had anything to do with the great I am, Jesus. It was about self and gods etc. Again we can read all about this. It wasn't some exercise they did to get fit. Not believing changes anything.
For me it was never of or for the Father to give Him any glory or praise. Now I am talking about those that try to follow yogo to a "T". Pray about it.. but if you made up your mind already.. He will say nothing. See for me everything , thought word deed is for and about my Father.. never me.
For me it was never of or for the Father to give Him any glory or praise. Now I am talking about those that try to follow yogo to a "T". Pray about it.. but if you made up your mind already.. He will say nothing. See for me everything , thought word deed is for and about my Father.. never me.
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Let me check to see if I truly understand your view.
1. Anyone who does yoga is practicing idolatry.
2. Anyone who does yoga is inviting, empowering or welcoming a demon into their body.
Is that about right?
1. Anyone who does yoga is practicing idolatry.
2. Anyone who does yoga is inviting, empowering or welcoming a demon into their body.
Is that about right?
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No thats not right. One has to use discernment when taking a class or practicing yoga. I could take yoga for the pure enjoyment of the exercising and there would be no problem. My daughter shows us stretching techniques at our house from time to time and I use them but I do not meditate. But for the naive and gullible it can become dangerous for them if they get into the meditation techniques.
hope this helps !!!
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Why do you want Christian assent for a Pagan practice - Have you a vested interest?
Do you have a Hindu background?
Or are you presenting Christianity as embracing of other faiths?
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I am not seeking Christian assent. I am trying to understand the objection among some but not all.
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So you think the spiritual part can be separated from the physical part? Some do not think so. I agree with you. But these days anything beyond a simple leg stretch for me is out of the question.
Do you feel the same way about Tai Chi Chuan?
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I do think Christ can be present in other faiths. Much wisdom can be found in in pre-christian thinking. And I think Christianity can include things from other cultures. Certainly not everything. A lot has been borrowed from pagans, even the term "Logos" as found in John came from pagan Greek philosophy.
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Not if its a real yoga teacher who adheres to the true methods of yoga.
The martial arts are no different with chi. I studied martial arts as a teenager through early adulthood.
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Not that other faiths are complete or ascorrect. But people were around for thousands of years before Christ came, before even Abraham. Many people many cultures, all God's children. Love is the key. Where there is Love there is God. But a lot can get distorted. As advanced as Greek philosophy was, and much we can still learn from it, Paul had a lot to teach them.
But back to yoga. For those with the interest I think it is better to see what is wrong in it and correct it rather than to write it off as from the devil. Both yoga and Buddhism can be very self centered, one must even save oneself. Or rely on fictitious gods or whatever. Naturally that will not do. But if it can diminish my sciatic pain, that is an entirely different matter.
Christ is central. There is no substitute.
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Can you be sure that no demonic healing is involved in your relief?
Folks have been taken to Shinto temples in Japan and 'healed' of cancer but who knows what disorder they inherit in the process?
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Demonic healing? Can you give me an example from scripture? I think most physical therapists agree it is simple kinesiology. Nothing supernatural to it. Why try to make it spooky?
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Matt 7
22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’
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