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Well, reality has hit our family unit.

One of our pets had a tumour the size of a golf ball and we had to put him down Friday just gone. He was 12 years old and in cat years was in his late 60s.

The pain of losing him and seeing him go is nearly up there with losing my dad. :(
 
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Do our dogs, cats primarily, plus other much loved pets, go to heaven?
It may seem a trivial question but to a person whose dog or cat has died, it is extremely important.
In everything i say and do, i need to bring souls to Christ, start them on their journey to salvation. A vague answer to a person's questions is not good enough. A person grieving for their dead dog needs comfort and surety. If i as a Christian do not supply it, they may go elsewhere, such as a spiritualist church or a medium. Driven by grief. I have a dog, i have been through the deaths of previous dogs. She means a huge amount to me with her huge love.

So, i am not going to ever tell anyone that animals have no soul, no place to rest after this life.
So what is the Christian understanding of animal souls and afterlife? A straight answer which could be what brings a human soul to Christ.
God created your dog and He knows how much you love it, so don't think the God is indifferent towards the love we have for our pets.
God has promised to restore all of the good things which sin and the devil have destroyed. Our pets are most certainly good things, so we can be sure that they will be restored back to us in eternity.
One thing I find quite concerning is the lack of love people have for God, we seem to love His creation more than Him and that is idolatry. Idolaters will not inherit the Kingdom of God and they will never see their pets or loved ones again, since hell is pitch black for eternity.
God has promised to give everything to those who seek His Kingdom first, He promised to fulfill the desires of our heart. So it's nothing for God to raise our loved ones and pets to eternal glorified bodies.
 
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Well, reality has hit our family unit.

One of our pets had a tumour the size of a golf ball and we had to put him down Friday just gone. He was 12 years old and in cat years was in his late 60s.

The pain of losing him and seeing him go is nearly up there with losing my dad. :(
I'm so sorry. I understand my Zeke died 2 years ago and I miss him everyday. He passed away in my arms and it was one of the hardest things I had to go through!
I miss him everyday but I am grateful to have had his love, he was my best buddy.
Prayers for you
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I'm so sorry. I understand my Zeke died 2 years ago and I miss him everyday. He passed away in my arms and it was one of the hardest things I had to go through!
I miss him everyday but I am grateful to have had his love, he was my best buddy.
Prayers for you
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Thank you so much.

I was doing so well yesterday and Monday but today I feel so very low (doesn't help that a migraine has developed as well). I was going to do some work in the garden to lift my mood but found one of his favourite 'chillin' spots and came back inside.
 
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Thank you so much.

I was doing so well yesterday and Monday but today I feel so very low (doesn't help that a migraine has developed as well). I was going to do some work in the garden to lift my mood but found one of his favourite 'chillin' spots and came back inside.
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God created your dog and He knows how much you love it, so don't think the God is indifferent towards the love we have for our pets.
God has promised to restore all of the good things which sin and the devil have destroyed. Our pets are most certainly good things, so we can be sure that they will be restored back to us in eternity.
One thing I find quite concerning is the lack of love people have for God, we seem to love His creation more than Him and that is idolatry. Idolaters will not inherit the Kingdom of God and they will never see their pets or loved ones again, since hell is pitch black for eternity.
God has promised to give everything to those who seek His Kingdom first, He promised to fulfill the desires of our heart. So it's nothing for God to raise our loved ones and pets to eternal glorified bodies.

amen- yes, we will have our pets restored. it is not idolatorous to love our pets- animals can be used to help heal our souls- God uses them as a therapeutic tool. it is ok to use anything God has creatd (as long as it is a good thing and helpful not sinful) to heal us and bring us joy. God actually created us for pleasure and joy- our chief aim to enjoy God forever and in doing so, glorify Him. it is only an issue if we love those things more than God. most christian pet owners don't do this.
 
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amen- yes, we will have our pets restored. it is not idolatorous to love our pets- animals can be used to help heal our souls- God uses them as a therapeutic tool. it is ok to use anything God has creatd (as long as it is a good thing and helpful not sinful) to heal us and bring us joy. God actually created us for pleasure and joy- our chief aim to enjoy God forever and in doing so, glorify Him. it is only an issue if we love those things more than God. most christian pet owners don't do this.
God has revealed Himself to everyone by His creation, so they (who deny Him) are without excuse.

Now if God has chosen to reveal Himself in that way, then our beloved pets are a part of God Himself. So we can love God through them, we obviously have a tailor made love for all of God's creation. We love our children in a certain way, our spouse, our grand parents, our siblings, our relatives, our friends, our neighbours and so on.

The first commandment is to love God with everything we have, He gave us everything we have and we rely on Him for our next breath. If anyone loves something more than God, it just means they don't know Him. The more we learn about who God is, the more we love Him.
The enemy is still telling lies about God, just as he did back in the garden of Eden.
 
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Lets just go by facts. Fact is we are the only ones with souls. Thus our souls go to heaven or hell. Pets, as much we love them, have no souls. When they die that is it. They go no where. Just as when any animal dies. For example when a deer dies, does it go to heaven? What about a anaconda? Of course not. Cats, dogs...etc are animals too.

Am I saying this is fair? No, of course not. But if we believe the bible then we have to accept what it says about souls. We were created in His image. Just us. That said the bible does mention certain heavenly creatures, but I believe those are made for heaven specifically, they did not die on earth to get there.
 
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Were else but heaven will this happen?

"The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den."

And doesn't Revelations tell us "And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!

And we are told "and all flesh shall see the salvation of God."

Even Pope Francis said "One day we will see our animals again in eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all God’s creatures."

The Lord is Great!
 
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Going with just facts, I agree that since we are made in God's image that the whole Bible points to a relationship with God through Christ Jesus. Mankind is the only living being on this planet that will be classed as children of God so long as we're born again and the Bible focuses on this fact because it is so important.

However, the only way I can get my head around the concept of creation (including our pets) and the new heaven and new earth spoken of in Rev 21:1-5 has been to liken it to a complete 'system overhaul'. This current world that we live in is broken and imperfect and will be made new. When made new the content/creatures of creation will be there.

The Bible makes reference to the old heaven and earth being destroyed (2 Peter 3:10, Rev 21:1, Matt 24:29) and the Lord will bring down a new heaven and new earth where creation will co-exist without harming each other (Is 65:25). I explained to my older child that it was like wiping Windows 10 off an old computer we had and replacing it with a better operating system - the buttons to open apps etc were still there facilitate us only they were better.

If there is a so-called complete 'system reboot' where lions, wolves, lambs and the rest of creation are present and can live, where current predators will not hunt current prey, one has to wonder about our pets. As people have said earlier so long as we magnify God by enjoying what He has made and being good stewards of it (treating and caring for our pets), if Abba sees how we have been on this broken earth who is to say what decision the Lord will make when it comes to our pets in the new heaven and earth? One thing I'm certain of my cats could sense things during prayer moments which matches up with Romans 8:19-21 and there was an occasion when one of the cats veered away from one of my daughter's friends who turned out to have dabbled in witchcraft.

From what I've read it's a win-win either way. I will either not remember the former things as per Isaiah 65:17 or with our resurrected bodies (1 John 3:2) we shall be like Him and speak into existence a house full of our loving pets in Jesus' Name (Mark 11:14 and 21-24).

Finally seeing my cat die last Friday enabled me to understand this a little better - he just ceased to breathe anymore. It did not negate the heart ache of seeing him go, nor the tears. But now I reflect, there were things I witnessed when my dad gave up his spirit which I won't share here but it was definitely different and two separate things to witness.

Both were still painful but yet two very different occurrences took place when they happened.

Anyway I've rambled - I guess I sit somewhere in the middle of what everyone has said :) . It will be one of those things I look forward to asking the Lord when Jesus takes us.
 
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Revelation 19:11 "And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True..."

I'm guessing there will at least be horses! I know I can't even fathom what heaven will be like, but I can't imagine there won't be animals there... and why not our pets? I guess we'll all find out soon enough!
 
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Doesn't that contradict Him giving us free will, though?
Mindwipe = forcing someone to think differently.
God has promised to remove the memory of our loved ones who go to the lake of fire. That's a great thing, who wants to morn over them forever.
How can the elect enjoy eternal paradise if God doesn't wipe away the memory of our loved ones who are being tormented in the lake of fire for all eternity.
We should be thankful for that act of mercy and enjoy God forever.
 
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When and where did God ever make this promise?

-CryptoLutheran
He made that promise many times in the Bible, everyone knows Revelation 21:4 it's surprising you don't know this famous verse. Glad I was able to help you with it today
 
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He made that promise many times in the Bible, everyone knows Revelation 21:4 it's surprising you don't know this famous verse. Glad I was able to help you with it today

But Revelation 21:4 doesn't say God wipes anyone's memory. It doesn't even remotely say that.

So the question remains, when and where did God say He would wipe anyone's memory?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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