Did God create drugs?

Of the Kingdom said:

At least one: The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

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Did the fruit cause the fall..being toxic...or was it the actual act of disobedience?

elytron said:

I went back and reviewed some of Genesis. I am probably wrong. At least one fruit was toxic in the garden though. The one that God forbid them to eat. Everything else was edible, to man and animal.

Outside of Eden there could have been some inedible plants. Just my opinion.

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As I asked above...Did the fruit cause the fall..being toxic...or was it the actual act of disobedience?

jamesbond007 said:

Besides the forbidden fruit, I think everything was of Adam and Eve's to partake. They were vegetarians.

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I agree.

Carl Emerson said:

No, poisons are a result of the curse of the fall.

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Just like thorns.

God made everything. I also think we try to get God off the hook sometimes with regard to things we would call dangerous or evil. The reality is that He has created a dangerous world.

One of the oddities I cam across is "poison dart frogs", as per the following link.

Poison Dart Frogs | National Geographic

These small frogs are beautifully and ostenatiously coloured, as a warning sign to would be predators. They are so obvious they give a strong hint they're dangerous to eat. One small frog of one species carries enough poison to kill ten men.

The odd thing is that scientists are uncertain where they get their poison from. Possibly their prey carry poison from plants which the frogs then assimilate when they eat the prey.

Yet the same frogs kept in captivity and fed on "clean" lab reared prey never develop the poison.

This raises a few questions - first how did the frogs develop the immunity to be able to assimilate the poison without being harmed themselves? Yet presumably other species which eat the same prey don't develop the toxicity, nor are they killed by eating the same insect prey.

Second how are they "aware" they need to be brightly coloured to deter predators?

Third, what set the whole process in motion?

Fourth, should their toxin be used as a weapon?

As for human abuse of drugs, that's our responsibility, just as we will be held responsible for everything else we do. I enjoy a glass of wine, but I don't go and drink five bottles of the stuff at a single sitting. Christ drank wine, knowing full well that some people could become alcoholics.

The abuse of drugs will be laid right at our door - not God's.

Bob Crowley said:

God made everything. I also think we try to get God off the hook sometimes with regard to things we would call dangerous or evil. The reality is that He has created a dangerous world.

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"The reality is that He has created a dangerous world."

No, God didn't create a dangerous world.....the fall of Adam created a dangerous world.

The world will become new, restored....Isaiah 11:8 The infant will play by the cobra’s den, and the toddler will reach into the viper’s nest.

No more poison frogs.

Bob Crowley said:

God made everything. I also think we try to get God off the hook sometimes with regard to things we would call dangerous or evil. The reality is that He has created a dangerous world.

One of the oddities I cam across is "poison dart frogs", as per the following link.

Poison Dart Frogs | National Geographic

These small frogs are beautifully and ostenatiously coloured, as a warning sign to would be predators. They are so obvious they give a strong hint they're dangerous to eat. One small frog of one species carries enough poison to kill ten men.

The odd thing is that scientists are uncertain where they get their poison from. Possibly their prey carry poison from plants which the frogs then assimilate when they eat the prey.

Yet the same frogs kept in captivity and fed on "clean" lab reared prey never develop the poison.

This raises a few questions - first how did the frogs develop the immunity to be able to assimilate the poison without being harmed themselves? Yet presumably other species which eat the same prey don't develop the toxicity, nor are they killed by eating the same insect prey.

Second how are they "aware" they need to be brightly coloured to deter predators?

Third, what set the whole process in motion?

Fourth, should their toxin be used as a weapon?

As for human abuse of drugs, that's our responsibility, just as we will be held responsible for everything else we do. I enjoy a glass of wine, but I don't go and drink five bottles of the stuff at a single sitting. Christ drank wine, knowing full well that some people could become alcoholics.

The abuse of drugs will be laid right at our door - not God's.

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Poisoned frogs, thorns and diseases came in after the fall. God created a perfect world.
Genesis 1:31
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

You're expecting me to believe that a lion was originally designed to eat fruit?

It has a digestive system which cannot handle a vegetarian diet, it has massive jaws, teeth and claws used to pin and kill prey, it has forward looking eyes to focus on the prey (a general feature of mammal predators compared to herbivores with eyes on the side to look out for predators), it hunts in an organised fashion, eats a huge meal at one sitting while herbivores graze all day long, and have a completely different digestive system etc. etc.

It was designed from the ground up to kill other animals to eat, and those features have always been with them. They didn't come in with the "fall".

He created them, but I doubt recreational use was the intent. Some may not even be appropriate for medicinal purposes, but instead fulfill another role in the ecosystem.

Marijuana is a weed, and part of the curse Adam and Eve received for their sin was toiling in the ground (Farming)! Weeds are a curse! Marijuana is a weed! You're smoking a curse!!!