Black Lives Matter, and the Rapture

boxman144 · Jun 2, 2020

Sketcher said:
On the Rapture, I believe in it, but I'm not sold on a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. If it happens, good. If not, then at least I wasn't banking on it. If it turns out to be Post-Tribulation or even Mid-Tribulation, a lot of Christians are going to be in for a very rude awakening. I hope their faith survives.

On BLM, I just see that as a smaller group of everyone who believes that black lives matter. They're leftist, I don't support or trust them or their approach to the issue. I prefer a libertarian approach, libertarians have been critical of police overreach and racist laws for years.

I don't really know what you're talking about politics-wise. I tend not to get into politics because I dislike it strongly.

Blade · Jun 2, 2020

Fear is not of God. Flip those thoughts.. Satan can not tell the truth. So when you have fear worry doubt.. yeah..its not God.. just flip it. NO! God has not give me the spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind! In JESUS name. Speak His word.

Christ is coming in the air. Now we can believe man or believe His word. No where in the word does it say WHEN caught up will happen. No where does it say PRE or MID or POST. I was not promised tomorrow. So I live as if JESUS is coming right now. I will never miss Him.

I have to say.. if we cannot live for Christ NOW..we never will during the great tribulation. For its a time like no other.. never in all history has there been a time like whats coming. The Church is still here. WE were given ALL power over the enemy. He can do nothing what so ever against the Church.. and thats YOU and ME. Christ will NEVER be taken out of us.. and Christ said.. I give you ALL power over the enemy and NOTHING shall by ANY means hurt you. He can't lie.

And he will be doing lying wonders. Things no man today has ever seen. Strange huh.. for some reason he can't come out in the open and do anything. Hmm seems something right now has ALL power over him. Anyway.. live today for Him.. expect Him now.. the moment He gives you. No man knows the answer to this. All the info you can have.. they have. No more no less. GOD CHRIST has never in 2000 years told anyone WHEN Caught up will happen. So.. be ready now..you never will miss Him. Follow what man believes.. you only get what they personally believe. Read what Christ told them about going back to the Fathers house.. keep reading.. know you were only promised today.. so why put faith in a day time you were never promised?

As for BLACK LIFES MATTER. Look into it.. read everything. On the outside sounds good...but.. anyway. Nez Perce Indians...something I KNOW about.. very personal. And sorry who matters? Yeah like sis said.. ALL lives matter for God so loved the WORLD! Oh amen.. see them through HIS eyes.. God sees no color.. Your for with Christ or your not. If you are you family.. if not .. you are not family.

Sketcher · Jun 2, 2020

boxman144 said:
I don't really know what you're talking about politics-wise. I tend not to get into politics because I dislike it strongly.

Well, you asked about two things, and I gave my input on both of those things. The BLM question is inherently political.

PaulCyp1 · Jun 2, 2020

Yes, the so-called "rapture" is a myth dreamed up by Protestant denominations with the past 200 years. No-one on Earth ever heard of such a thing before then. There is no BLM movement within the original and true Christian Church, because race is absolutely not an issue in God's Church. The only race God recognizes is the human race, and that's how it is in the Church He founded.

Jamdoc · Jun 2, 2020

boxman144 said:
I know some of you don't believe in the Rapture, and have put out some very good proof for it not existing, but I'm still scared I won't make it. This post has some pretty convincing data for the Rapture:

Disciple Robert

And also underneath the post, I wanted to see what the posters' stance was for the BLM movement. I commented under the username "ghostly". Please look at the comment thread.

He said that the people movements here on Earth have "the powers of darkness" in them. Does this mean I've been supporting evil? Should I not support BLM? I feel the need to because the movement is so powerful, and speaks to me in volumes, but I don't want to support something that would be considered evil.

Violence and riots are not good fruits.
also understand that right now, the protests aren't making positive change but giving some people provision to do violence and theft
I agree that black lives do matter, I believe that George Floyd was murdered and am praising God that his murderer has been arrested and brought up on charges. Let's give the justice system the chance to do right and serve justice against these corrupt cops.
If justice is NOT served... then get angry about it, it'd be rightful to be angry at injustice.
But right now.. justice is in process, they're not just going to summary execute the man, they're going to have a trial. So that's where you take a pause, and know that God is in control.

chilehed · Jun 2, 2020

boxman144 said:
Disciple Robert

Yeah, well who the heck is "Disciple" Robert and what makes you think he knows any more than a box of hammers?

Stop paying attention to and worrying about that kind of nonsense, attend to your own salvation, and trust in the mercy of God.

Loversofjesus_2018 · Jun 3, 2020

GodsGrace101 said:
Do you notice any difference between Martin Luther King's movement and what's going on now?

What does Black Lives Matter mean anyway?
ALL LIVES MATTER.
Why doesn't this happen when a cop shoots a white guy by mistake?
You think it doesn't happen??

To me it looks very evil.
Burning cars and private property and

GodsGrace101 said:

It's about resentment.
A young girl, about 17 or so, brought this up in an interview by a reporter. She said, basically, that this is all pent up anger from slavery.

These kids go to liberal schools and are immersed in teachings of social injustice toward the black man.
These liberal professors aren't doing them any good.
While these kids are out there looting and rioting,,,black anchors are in news studios with good jobs because they act like a normal human being and not like an angered and rebellious child that can't even think for himself.

Black males should be treated just like everyone else if they act like everyone else.

And I know that some cops are racially prejudiced...these should be gotten RID OF.

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Hazelelponi · Jun 3, 2020

boxman144 said:
I know some of you don't believe in the Rapture, and have put out some very good proof for it not existing, but I'm still scared I won't make it. This post has some pretty convincing data for the Rapture:

Disciple Robert

And also underneath the post, I wanted to see what the posters' stance was for the BLM movement. I commented under the username "ghostly". Please look at the comment thread.

He said that the people movements here on Earth have "the powers of darkness" in them. Does this mean I've been supporting evil? Should I not support BLM? I feel the need to because the movement is so powerful, and speaks to me in volumes, but I don't want to support something that would be considered evil.

About groups like BLM. While it seems a lovely thing on its surface, it's really not.

In Christianity while we believe in justice, we believe justice should equally applied to all and absolutely blind, which are not ideals BLM stands for.

BLM doesn't want justice, they want one particular race to be above the law, and they don't want justice to be blind in the least. They are all about racism, couched in flowery language. They just want it to be the kind of racism they approve of.

This makes BLM opposed to what any God-fearing Christian is for. It's a lot like ANTIFA in a way, who are themselves fascist. BLM are themselves racist, and want you to be blind to it.

We have to stand for truth, and at times truth means your going to be opposed to groups and people who seem on the surface to be trying to do something good, but when the layers are peeled back you see the rotten fruit inside.

If you want to do something good, then do God's work, share the gospel with the lost, love your neighbor, and let the world sort itself out.

boxman144 · Jun 3, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
About groups like BLM. While it seems a lovely thing on its surface, it's really not.

In Christianity while we believe in justice, we believe justice should equally applied to all and absolutely blind, which are not ideals BLM stands for.

BLM doesn't want justice, they want one particular race to be above the law, and they don't want justice to be blind in the least. They are all about racism, couched in flowery language. They just want it to be the kind of racism they approve of.

This makes BLM opposed to what any God-fearing Christian is for. It's a lot like ANTIFA in a way, who are themselves fascist. BLM are themselves racist, and want you to be blind to it.

We have to stand for truth, and at times truth means your going to be opposed to groups and people who seem on the surface to be trying to do something good, but when the layers are peeled back you see the rotten fruit inside.

If you want to do something good, then do God's work, share the gospel with the lost, love your neighbor, and let the world sort itself out.

I am not a racist because I stand with Black Lives Matter. Yes, there are bad people in BLM, but there are in every group. I believe in equality, and we need the black race to be equal to everyone else as well.

I just want people to be saved as well. That is critical. Most won't listen though, and I'll get ridiculed.

Hazelelponi · Jun 3, 2020

boxman144 said:
I am not a racist because I stand with Black Lives Matter. Yes, there are bad people in BLM, but there are in every group. I believe in equality, and we need the black race to be equal to everyone else as well.

I just want people to be saved as well. That is critical. Most won't listen though, and I'll get ridiculed.

Blacks are equal to everyone else. What they need to do is go out like the rest of us and work for what they want, for their children's future.

It's work and effort not something handed on a silver platter because you became a terrorist one day...

Johan_1988 · Jun 3, 2020

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:
I don't really understand what he means about people's movements like BLM being full of darkness? surely racial justice ad social justice generally are ,pvements close to God's heart? how were Martin Luther King and William Wilberforce etc operating in darkness?

The problem is there is political movements that seek to take advantage of just causes to further their political agendas which is to subjugate society in such a way through outrage over an incident to try to overhaul governance that will end all ownership of private businesses,land and organizations under the guise of so called equality, to bring about a dictatorship where they call the shots and can steal as much as they like and try to establish satan's kingdom on earth.

lsume · Jun 3, 2020

boxman144 said:
I know some of you don't believe in the Rapture, and have put out some very good proof for it not existing, but I'm still scared I won't make it. This post has some pretty convincing data for the Rapture:

Disciple Robert

And also underneath the post, I wanted to see what the posters' stance was for the BLM movement. I commented under the username "ghostly". Please look at the comment thread.

He said that the people movements here on Earth have "the powers of darkness" in them. Does this mean I've been supporting evil? Should I not support BLM? I feel the need to because the movement is so powerful, and speaks to me in volumes, but I don't want to support something that would be considered evil.

The meek shall inherit the earth. From Zachariah, 2/3rds will parish. Are you sure those 2/3rds are not the ones being removed?

JacksBratt · Jun 3, 2020

boxman144 said:
I know some of you don't believe in the Rapture, and have put out some very good proof for it not existing, but I'm still scared I won't make it. This post has some pretty convincing data for the Rapture:

Disciple Robert

And also underneath the post, I wanted to see what the posters' stance was for the BLM movement. I commented under the username "ghostly". Please look at the comment thread.

He said that the people movements here on Earth have "the powers of darkness" in them. Does this mean I've been supporting evil? Should I not support BLM? I feel the need to because the movement is so powerful, and speaks to me in volumes, but I don't want to support something that would be considered evil.

Rapture or dying tomorrow.... ends up with the same result.

If you afraid you won't be raptured..... better be worried about what would happen if you got hit by a bus tomorrow.

Get right with God and you don't have to worry about your eternal destiny either way.

JacksBratt · Jun 3, 2020

Why do Black lives matter?

It's because they are humans.... They want to be treated just like everyone else. As they should.

Well.... has that not happened? They just had a black president. They have black lawyers, teachers, police, fire fighters... the list goes on.

This looting needs to be openly and forcefully condemned by BLM as it is not even supporting their cause or giving them good publicity.

The police are not the problem... it was one man... One man who has been arrested and will be punished. As are several other involved officers.

Don't go justifying even worse destructive behavior by these peoples crimes.
Don't go justifying the condemnation of all police by the crimes of one or two.

Should the police board or authorities be held to some account for allowing this man to carry a badge... absolutely..

However, the people in these riots should be ashamed of themselves.... It is not helping the cause of BLM from a person watching it.

J_B_ · Jun 3, 2020

GodsGrace101 said:
Do you notice any difference between Martin Luther King's movement and what's going on now?

What does Black Lives Matter mean anyway?
ALL LIVES MATTER.
Why doesn't this happen when a cop shoots a white guy by mistake?
You think it doesn't happen??

To me it looks very evil.
Burning cars and private property and looting is NOT GODLY.

Should we assume you are white?

Yes, all lives matter. No, burning and looting is not the right response. It hurts people who aren't causing the problem we're supposedly trying to fix.

But there is a reason for emphasizing racial justice.

I am also white, but I am part of a mixed family, so not all of my relatives are white. Both I and one of my white children have been pulled over by the police because, based on the car we were driving, they thought we were black. They said that's why they pulled us over - because they thought we were black. When they saw we were white they apologized and let us go with no ticket.

What would it be like for you if you know the police were stopping you just because of your skin color and you didn't know what the police were going to do? Simply because you're black they might decide to use excessive force - severely injure you - possibly kill you.

For that reason, because my non-white relatives are scared witless by all of this, they carry weapons with them. They have said: if the police treat me fairly, fine. If the police come at me, I'm not going down without a fight.

This IS a race problem. I have no idea how to solve it, but don't pretend like it's not there.

ZNP · Jun 3, 2020

PaulCyp1 said:
Yes, the so-called "rapture" is a myth dreamed up by Protestant denominations with the past 200 years. No-one on Earth ever heard of such a thing before then

Really, never before? I was under the impression people rose from the grave during Jesus ministry? Especially when he was crucified. [When Jesus died on the cross], the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. And coming forth from their tombs after his resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many.” (Mt. 27: 52-53).

boxman144 · Jun 3, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
Blacks are equal to everyone else. What they need to do is go out like the rest of us and work for what they want, for their children's future.

It's work and effort not something handed on a silver platter because you became a terrorist one day...

Not all black people are "terrorists". The media doesn't show you the true peaceful protests that are actually making a change. And I do work for what I want, I work hard, but we're working against discrimination as well.

nolidad · Jun 3, 2020

boxman144 said:
I know some of you don't believe in the Rapture, and have put out some very good proof for it not existing, but I'm still scared I won't make it. This post has some pretty convincing data for the Rapture:

Disciple Robert

And also underneath the post, I wanted to see what the posters' stance was for the BLM movement. I commented under the username "ghostly". Please look at the comment thread.

He said that the people movements here on Earth have "the powers of darkness" in them. Does this mean I've been supporting evil? Should I not support BLM? I feel the need to because the movement is so powerful, and speaks to me in volumes, but I don't want to support something that would be considered evil.

Well after walking with the Lord for over 45 years, researching all thoughts on Eschatology and teaching Eschatology in bible College, Bible Institute and several local chuyrches, I am 100% convinced that the Bible teaches a pre-trib rapture.

And if you are born again you will not miss the rapture. One is either a Christian or not. And if one is a Christian alive at the time fo the Lord calling the church home, you will go. It is not a matter of how good or bad you are. It is a matter of being a child of God or not!

Zachm531 · Jun 3, 2020

boxman144 said:
I know some of you don't believe in the Rapture, and have put out some very good proof for it not existing, but I'm still scared I won't make it. This post has some pretty convincing data for the Rapture:

Disciple Robert

And also underneath the post, I wanted to see what the posters' stance was for the BLM movement. I commented under the username "ghostly". Please look at the comment thread.

He said that the people movements here on Earth have "the powers of darkness" in them. Does this mean I've been supporting evil? Should I not support BLM? I feel the need to because the movement is so powerful, and speaks to me in volumes, but I don't want to support something that would be considered evil.

Its not the people reject the rapture, its that people argue when it happens. Some people believe its before the tribulation, some people believe its during the trib and some people think its after

Bruce Leiter · Jun 3, 2020

boxman144 said:
I know some of you don't believe in the Rapture, and have put out some very good proof for it not existing, but I'm still scared I won't make it. This post has some pretty convincing data for the Rapture:

Disciple Robert

And also underneath the post, I wanted to see what the posters' stance was for the BLM movement. I commented under the username "ghostly". Please look at the comment thread.

He said that the people movements here on Earth have "the powers of darkness" in them. Does this mean I've been supporting evil? Should I not support BLM? I feel the need to because the movement is so powerful, and speaks to me in volumes, but I don't want to support something that would be considered evil.

I have no problem with BLM as long they adhere to Dr. King's nonviolent philosophy that I believe God blesses a whole lot more than violence to obtain the needed change to overcome police brutality. If their goals are that but they have violence as the means to that end, you are in an organization with evil intent. (Look at Romans 13 for God's command about our life in relation to the authorities over us.)

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