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(CLV) 1Jn 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we may be keeping His precepts. And His precepts are not heavy,
From decalogue
(CLV) Ex 20:6
yet showing benignity to thousands, to those loving Me and observing My instructions.
(CLV) Jn 14:15
If you should be loving Me, you will be keeping My precepts.
(CLV) Dt 5:10
yet showing benignity to thousands, to those loving Me and observing My instructions.
(CLV) Ne 1:5
I said: Oh, Yahweh Elohim of the heavens, the great and fear-inspiring El, Who is keeping the covenant and the benignity with those loving Him and observing His instructions,
(CLV) Dn 9:4
I prayed indeed to Yahweh my Eloah. I confessed and said intensely, Oh, Yahweh, the great and fear inspiring El, Keeper of the covenant and the benignity for those loving Him and keeping His instructions:
(CLV) Mt 22:36
"Teacher, what is the great precept in the law?"
(CLV) Mt 22:37
Now He averred to him, "You shall be loving the Lord your God with your whole heart, and with your whole soul, and iwith your whole comprehension.
(CLV) Jn 14:21
He who has My precepts and is keeping them, he it is who is loving Me. Now he who is loving Me will be loved by My Father, and I shall be loving him and shall be disclosing Myself to him."
(CLV) 1Jn 5:2
In this we know that we are loving the children of God, whenever we may be loving God and may be doing His precepts.
(CLV) 2Jn 1:6
And this is love, that we may be walking according to His precepts. This is the precept, according as you hear from the beginning, that you may be walking in it;
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Nowhere are the customs associated with Easter sanctioned in the Bible. Nowhere does God command us or encourage us to observe a custom memorializing or commemorating the DEATH of Messiah on the tree. Rather, we are commanded to observe the PASSOVER on the 15th of Nisan which celebrates Israel's Redemption. The final of the 10 plagues in Egypt was the death of the firstborn. Israel was told to kill the Egyptian deity - the lamb, on their soil, a provocative move indeed. Exodus 8:26 "But Moses said, “It would not be right to do so, for the offerings we shall sacrifice to the Lord our God are an abomination to the Egyptians. If we sacrifice offerings abominable to the Egyptians before their eyes, will they not stone us?" God said he would send the destroyer, the angel, that night, to kill all the firstborn that night, in exchange for Pharaoh not allowing His "firstborn" to go free. Exodus 4:22 "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son," Those who put the blood of the lamb on the doorposts that night, were "passed over". This was a bold proclamation that the Israelites trusted in YehoVah, the God of Israel to deliver them, so much so that they would deny and kill the Egyptian sacred animal on their soil.
Nowhere does God command us or encourage us to observe a custom memorializing or commemorating the DEATH of Messiah:
1 Co. 11:26. For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
Luke 22:19. And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. [not as a memorial.]
How many people actually understand the meaning of 'in remembrance'.[see essay Memorial and Remembrance.]
Acts 2:46. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
1 Co 15:31. I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
Israel was told to kill the Egyptian deity??? - the lamb. False
Genesis 22:8. And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb....[that day they found a ram with its horns entangled in brush that was used for the sacrifice. Prophecy filled by Messiah.
Revelation 13:8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Yahushua, not Egyptian god.
Rather, we are commanded to observe the PASSOVER on the 15th of Nisan which celebrates Israel's Redemption. The final of the 10 plagues in Egypt was the death of the firstborn.
The Passover resulted in the consecration of the firstborn of man and beast unto the Lord. The Levites ultimately were numbered in accordance with the number of the firstborn males. The Lord is their inheritance. The Passover points to Messiah the firstborn of all creation and firstborn from the dead, and His Body, 'the church of the firstborn.' [firstborn=the prototokos}
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Romans 8:29. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Colossians 1:15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Colossians 1:18. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Hebrews 1:6. And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Hebrews 11:28. Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
Hebrews 12:23. To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Revelation 1:5. And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
The True meaning of Passover given as an answer to ONE question. [see essay The First Memorial.]
Exodus 12:14. And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
Exodus 12:26, 27. And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service? That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD'S passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshipped.
Exodus 13:2. Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.
Exodus 13:12. That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD'S.
The Passover points to the Firstborn. And yet, the modern seder asks four questions, and they all are answered in reference to Israel coming out of the bondage of slavery. Thus they deny Messiah by neglecting the true reference for the feast. Freedom from slavery is actually given as the purpose for the Sabbath.
Deuteronomy 5:15. And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
As already noted the priesthood from the tribe of Levi was chosen in lieu of the firstborn.
Numbers 3:12. And I, behold, I have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel instead of all the firstborn that openeth the matrix among the children of Israel: therefore the Levites shall be mine
This was a bold proclamation that the Israelites trusted in YehoVah, the God of Israel to deliver them, so much so that they would deny and kill the Egyptian sacred animal on their soil.
No Torah reference to support this claim that the lamb was a sacred animal in Egypt. Saying that the animal sacrifices were an abomination to them hardly makes the animal sacred. The Israelites lived apart from the Egyptians because herdsmen themselves were an abomination to them.
Genesis 46:34. That ye shall say, Thy servants' trade hath been about cattle from our youth even until now, both we, and also our fathers: that ye may dwell in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination unto the Egyptians.
All right, enough already. put it to rest.
Nowhere does God command us or encourage us to observe a custom memorializing or commemorating the DEATH of Messiah:
1 Co. 11:26. For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
Luke 22:19. And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. [not as a memorial.]
How many people actually understand the meaning of 'in remembrance'.[see essay Memorial and Remembrance.]
Acts 2:46. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
1 Co 15:31. I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
Israel was told to kill the Egyptian deity??? - the lamb. False
Genesis 22:8. And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb....[that day they found a ram with its horns entangled in brush that was used for the sacrifice. Prophecy filled by Messiah.
Revelation 13:8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Yahushua, not Egyptian god.
Rather, we are commanded to observe the PASSOVER on the 15th of Nisan which celebrates Israel's Redemption. The final of the 10 plagues in Egypt was the death of the firstborn.
The Passover resulted in the consecration of the firstborn of man and beast unto the Lord. The Levites ultimately were numbered in accordance with the number of the firstborn males. The Lord is their inheritance. The Passover points to Messiah the firstborn of all creation and firstborn from the dead, and His Body, 'the church of the firstborn.' [firstborn=the prototokos}
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Romans 8:29. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Colossians 1:15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Colossians 1:18. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Hebrews 1:6. And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Hebrews 11:28. Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
Hebrews 12:23. To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Revelation 1:5. And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
The True meaning of Passover given as an answer to ONE question. [see essay The First Memorial.]
Exodus 12:14. And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
Exodus 12:26, 27. And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service? That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD'S passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshipped.
Exodus 13:2. Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.
Exodus 13:12. That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD'S.
The Passover points to the Firstborn. And yet, the modern seder asks four questions, and they all are answered in reference to Israel coming out of the bondage of slavery. Thus they deny Messiah by neglecting the true reference for the feast. Freedom from slavery is actually given as the purpose for the Sabbath.
Deuteronomy 5:15. And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
As already noted the priesthood from the tribe of Levi was chosen in lieu of the firstborn.
Numbers 3:12. And I, behold, I have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel instead of all the firstborn that openeth the matrix among the children of Israel: therefore the Levites shall be mine
This was a bold proclamation that the Israelites trusted in YehoVah, the God of Israel to deliver them, so much so that they would deny and kill the Egyptian sacred animal on their soil.
No Torah reference to support this claim that the lamb was a sacred animal in Egypt. Saying that the animal sacrifices were an abomination to them hardly makes the animal sacred. The Israelites lived apart from the Egyptians because herdsmen themselves were an abomination to them.
Genesis 46:34. That ye shall say, Thy servants' trade hath been about cattle from our youth even until now, both we, and also our fathers: that ye may dwell in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination unto the Egyptians.
All right, enough already. put it to rest.
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Mat 1:1 CLV
The scroll of the lineage of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham
It would seem the CLV betrays you here. This is a bit of a silly conversation. "Jesus" does not mean pig. King James Bible upon release in 1611 was the King Iames Bible and there wasn't a single "J" in the entire bible. Old English used /i/ as a constant or a vowel (similar to how we today use /y/. As languages evolved people start putting a tale at the end of the consonant sound of /i/ to separate it from the vowel role, then later through French influence it took on a /j/ sound.
The name has passed through a lot of hands and each time changes a little. Modern English-Old English-Latin-Greek-Aramaic-Hebrew but as noted above other languages can influence the changes like French has had a role with the modern English /j/ sound.
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The message is not destroyed by the letter "J".
If you say to people "Yashua" or "Jesus" or "Iesous", you must, to relay the mesage of His name, always translate it to their language, that it means "God is salvation".
If there is J or not in the English transliteration is totally irrelevant to the translation.
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That's another word I won't use. Here's a video on many words I don't use. I don't necessarily completely agree with all of their views; but they come pretty close; and the music is great!
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I know you have many personal problems with common terms, but these problems are purely fictional.
We are not supposed to speak Hebrew or Aramaic to communicate general concepts. We can use our native languages as far as we agree what we mean by the term.
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The CLV betrays me in many ways.
Bible translations are market driven. It's up to the believer to prove all things.
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I have a personal problem in the fact that YHWH sends a messenger to name his son, a very specific name, with a very specific meaning. Someone ignores what the Father says, and blots out his son's name, and replaces it with another name. This might not bother you; but yes, this bothers me.
(CLV) Jn 5:43
I have come in the name of My Father, and you are not getting Me. If another should be coming in his own name, him you will get.
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Again, the meaning of the name of Jesus is not somehow magically revealed when you use its Aramaic or Hebrew transliteration. Because 99.99 % of people on this planet do not speak hebrew/aramaic. And those who do, they do not read in Latin alphabet you use for the transliteration.
You must translate or explain the meaning of the name, in any case.
And without a proper explanation, the Latin transliteration "YHWH" you use again and again has also no meaning.
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What are you waiting for?
(CLV) Zep 3:8
Therefore, tarry for Me, averring is Yahweh, For the day when I rise to testify, Seeing that My judgment is to gather the nations, To convene the kingdoms, To pour out My indignation upon them, All the heat of My anger, For, by the fire of My jealousy, the entire earth shall be devoured.
(CLV) Zep 3:9
For then I shall transform the peoples to a pure lip, For them all to call on the Name of Yahweh, To serve Him with one shoulder.
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Pure lips are not Hebrew language. I hope you realize that.
Pure lips are lips that do not say lies.
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Whoever told you that, lied.
Definition Details
Strong's Number: H8193
Hebrew Base Word: שָׂפָה
Part of speech: Noun Feminine
Usage: Band, bank, binding, border, brim, brink, edge, language, lip, prating, (sea-)shore, side, speech, talk, (vain) words
Definition: The lip (as a natural boundary); by implication, language; by analogy, a margin (of a vessel, water, cloth, etc.).
Detailed definition:
- Lip, language, speech, shore, bank, brink, brim, side, edge, border, binding.
- Lip (as body part).
- Language.
- Edge, shore, bank (of cup, sea, river, etc).
Band, bank, binding, border, brim in the Bible (164 verses). Hebrew: שָׂפָה, śāpâ, H8193
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Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
There is more to a name than letters and language, it is your reputation.
"My name is Mud". Mind if I call you Clod.
Exodus 34:5-7. And the Lord descended in a cloud, and stood near him there, and called by the name of the Lord. And the Lord passed by before his face, and proclaimed, The Lord God, pitiful and merciful, longsuffering and very compassionate, and true, and keeping justice and mercy for thousands, taking away iniquity, and unrighteousness, and sins; and he will not clear the guilty; bringing the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and to the children's children, to the third and fourth generation.
AKA: The Divine Attributes.
Exodus 3:14. And God said unto Moses: ‘I AM THAT I AM’; and He said: ‘Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: I AM hath sent me unto you.’ JPS Tahakh
I Am>Hayah>eimi Greek.
Here is the power of THAT NAME.
John 18:4-8. Jesus therefore, knowing all things that would come upon Him, went forward and said to them, “Whom are you seeking?” They answered Him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I AM.” And Judas, who betrayed Him, also stood with them. Now when He said to them, I AM they drew back and fell to the ground. Then He asked them again, “Whom are you seeking?” And they said, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus answered, I have told you that I AM. Therefore, if you seek Me, let these go their way, that the saying might be fulfilled which He spoke, Of those whom You gave Me I have lost none.
Follow this closely. He asks who do you seek. They answer Yeshua of Nazareth, for it is a common name. But when He says I AM, they all have to fall on their faces as an involuntary response. This is authority, that even unclean spirits obey and humble themselves before Him. For He tells them 'let these others go their way'. It is not a request, it is an order that no one contradicts or resists.
More to follow on I AM.
Matthew 11:27-30. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn of Me, for I AM gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.
Learn of Him and He will give you His name, for do you not yet know.
Revelation 3:18. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
What? New Name? Keep seeking Him for you will not find Him in language or letters, but in the Light.
There is more to a name than letters and language, it is your reputation.
"My name is Mud". Mind if I call you Clod.
Exodus 34:5-7. And the Lord descended in a cloud, and stood near him there, and called by the name of the Lord. And the Lord passed by before his face, and proclaimed, The Lord God, pitiful and merciful, longsuffering and very compassionate, and true, and keeping justice and mercy for thousands, taking away iniquity, and unrighteousness, and sins; and he will not clear the guilty; bringing the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and to the children's children, to the third and fourth generation.
AKA: The Divine Attributes.
Exodus 3:14. And God said unto Moses: ‘I AM THAT I AM’; and He said: ‘Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: I AM hath sent me unto you.’ JPS Tahakh
I Am>Hayah>eimi Greek.
Here is the power of THAT NAME.
John 18:4-8. Jesus therefore, knowing all things that would come upon Him, went forward and said to them, “Whom are you seeking?” They answered Him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I AM.” And Judas, who betrayed Him, also stood with them. Now when He said to them, I AM they drew back and fell to the ground. Then He asked them again, “Whom are you seeking?” And they said, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus answered, I have told you that I AM. Therefore, if you seek Me, let these go their way, that the saying might be fulfilled which He spoke, Of those whom You gave Me I have lost none.
Follow this closely. He asks who do you seek. They answer Yeshua of Nazareth, for it is a common name. But when He says I AM, they all have to fall on their faces as an involuntary response. This is authority, that even unclean spirits obey and humble themselves before Him. For He tells them 'let these others go their way'. It is not a request, it is an order that no one contradicts or resists.
More to follow on I AM.
Matthew 11:27-30. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn of Me, for I AM gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.
Learn of Him and He will give you His name, for do you not yet know.
Revelation 3:18. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
What? New Name? Keep seeking Him for you will not find Him in language or letters, but in the Light.
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