Bernie Sanders Train Rolls Through Nevada

Sanders eviscerates the conventional wisdom about why he can't win

You can't stop it, you might as well hop on and enjoy the ride! Centrist Democrats and the Democratic Party Establishment (i.e. DINO's) are quaking in their patent leather shoes, Pete is breaking down, Amy is unhinged, and Joe is thinking "so you're saying there's a chance!!!"...

The Revolution is on, Sanders is cruising!

Feel the Bern! Bernie 2020

VIVA LAS VEGAS!!!

Hammster said:

My hope is that when he’s thoroughly defeated in November that it will put an end to this Socialist nonsense.

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What's 'nonsense' about it?

Albion said:

I listened to him deliver one of his speeches today and it occurred to me that he's being allowed by the other Democrats to get away with a lot of breezy half-truths concerning the consequences of putting the Socialist policies he advocates into effect and, also, his ability to enact them all by himself if he wins the presidency.

It's time for Mayor Pete and Joe Biden to stop saying they are not Socialists and instead start to be specific about the fairy-tale nature of Sanders' pie-in-the-sky, "promise them anything" campaigning!

Perhaps it is the case that both of them think they can merely reject the word Socialism but not any particular Socialist policy along with it. If they both think that they can, by doing that, play to moderates in the party but not enough to alienate the people who want to believe Sanders' promises, that strategy won't work.

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What "breezy half-truths"?

Tom Farebrother said:

What has Bernie got going for him as a candidate? I know barely anything about him, I’m just curious.

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There's a lot I can say but it boils down to the fact that he is the only candidate who does not take money from big corporate interests. The others say that they can't run a successful campaign without taking money from industries like oil, health insurance, pharmaceuticals, finance/banks, military contractors, prison contractors, etc.

In a field of candidates claiming they will fight these interests how can I trust them when they are all taking money from these interests while Sanders isn't? Sanders said a candidate can run with the support of the people and not the big money interests and he has proven it by doing it. How can I trust Buttigieg to fight for fair pharma prices, for example, when he takes money from the pharma industry? How can I trust Bloomberg to fight against big corporations' special interests when he in fact makes money off those big corporations and owns one himself (i.e. he's an oligarch)?

This is why Sanders appeals to such a wide swath of the American population, including many more conservative voters. There are two candidates to vote for in this election: 1- a candidate who takes money from corporate and big-money interests (take your pick among all the Dem candidates - except Sanders - plus Trump), and 2 - a candidate who does not take money from corporate and big-money interests (Bernie Sanders).

Hammster said:

All of it. Besides being unbiblical, it’s been shown over and over that it doesn’t work.

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How is it unbiblical? Nothing about it is nonsense or unbiblical. In fact, the Early Church used socialism. Acts 2:44-45 and Acts 4:32-35.

Yekcidmij said:

And no sooner had they tried it than it failed:

Acts 6:1 Now in those days, when the disciples were growing in number, a complaint arose on the part of the Greek-speaking Jews against the native Hebraic Jews, because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food​

Their system didn't scale - and this is a fundamental problem of socialism - it doesn't work at scale. Its the same reason kibbutzim in Israel are always very small and very selective.

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How does that prove that "it failed"??

Yekcidmij said:

Well, if I'm relying on a distribution of food and it doesn't get distributed, I'd say the system failed.

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So a system is a failure when it doesn't work 100% perfectly all of the time? So you admit that capitalism is a failure, right?

Hammster said:

The early church did not use Socialism. The early church believed in owning property and to use that property as one saw fit.

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They believed in owning property? Only collectively, not as their own. Not as "one saw fit" but rather as a group - no one claimed that any of their possessions was their own:

Acts 2:32

32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.

It's OK if you don't want to like socialism but don't attack me by saying "it's unbiblical" when that's not true at all.

Yekcidmij said:

I'd say a system that doesn't allow widows to get food has failed. It's clear this was a failure in their system as the Hellenist widow's weren't getting food in the daily distribution (at least that was the claim). It's rather obvious that whatever exactly the disciples were doing wasn't working as a group of Hellenist women weren't getting their food distribution. So this isn't a matter of saying, "sorry widows this doesn't work 100% of the time." Starving is not excused by saying "sorry it doesn't work perfectly 100% of the time." No, this a system that broke and something else had to be done instead.

Besides, was the system in Jerusalem the same system that was implemented in Antioch, Corinth, Thessaloniki, Galatia, Rome, etc..? There's no evidence that the disciples initial system in Jerusalem was implemented anywhere else in the church. So I'm not sure your insistence on this system in Jerusalem is applicable at all - it wasn't even used as a model in their own time. If anything, it's an example of a failed effort since the widow's weren't being given their distribution.

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Now you're equivocating. You're calling it a failure IN the system instead of a failed system. Capitalism also doesn't allow widows to get food - so again you're admitting Capitalism is a failed system by your own standards.

Round and round the capitalist, anti-Biblical doubletalk goes, where she stops, nobody knows...