Peter J Barban
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We should give people the respect they deserve, not necessarily the respect they want.
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I know the English language just fine. What I said fits. Your rejection of my definition that your average person will understand does not undo what I have stated. Words have synonyms to them. They are related words that say the same thing. Your failure to understand the synonym I pointed out does not undo its truthfulness.
Not going to keep going back and forth with you on this (if you want to continue to debate this).
Paul never met Jesus.Nope. Paul says do not have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them (Ephesians 5:11).
I'm sorry BH, but the question is so convoluted that no one can answer without first defining what rude is. And since rude is definitively contextual or circumstantial, then the question must be considered case by case. So ultimately, your OP should be posed as, Can someone define what is being rude that leads to sin?Is being rude a sin?
Definition of Rude:
Rudeness is a display of disrespect by not complying with the social norms or etiquette of a group or culture. These norms have been established as the essential boundaries of normally accepted behavior.
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Rudeness - Wikipedia
Note: Yes, I am aware of 1 Corinthians 13:5. The KJV does not use this word, though. Pauls says he is rude in speech (See: 2 Corinthians 11:6 in the KJV). Was Paul sinning? Surely not. In addition, there are examples of being rude in our culture that is really wrong (and I would consider it a sin).
Here are some examples given here:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-rude-behavior
And here:
The 25 Rudest Behaviors—Are You an Offender?
But what some may consider as rude may not always be rude to another.
There are cultural forms of rudeness that we may not be aware of when visiting another country. We may not intend to be rude, but we may be rude by doing something they may find to be rude.
I'm sorry BH, but the question is so convoluted that no one can answer without first defining what rude is. And since rude is definitively contextual or circumstantial, then the question must be considered case by case. So ultimately, your OP should be posed as, Can someone define what is being rude that leads to sin?
But, after saying all that, I will categorically state that, yes, being rude is a sin, ...as long as the offensive gesture is unequivocally deemed as an act of rudeness!
And what determines an act to be rude or not, is that the motivation is not derived from love, for either God the holy creator, or one's neighbour that was made in his image.
It can be, but not all rudeness comes from a place of selfishness. Some of it is cultural. What's considered polite in one culture might be considered rude in another.
Yes, agreed. Love has many facets, and some of them are disciplining, rebuking, correcting, ostracizing and ignoring, etc.I was merely giving a general definition of how "rude" is defined by this world, and I do not agree that all things are rude as defined by this world. Only God can define what He truly considers something to be rude or not. Rude would indeed be a violation of a lack of love towards another in such a way that disregards having love for their soul. This is not to say that we should not shake the dust off our feet and move on when preaching the gospel to others (and they do not receive it), but we can pray for them later, and we can still do good towards them later (if such people come back into our lives). We can love our enemies.
Yes, agreed. Love has many facets, and some of them are disciplining, rebuking, correcting, ostracizing and ignoring, etc.
I'm sure that the Pharisees and tax collectors were quite indignant in regard to Jesus' scathing remarks towards them (white washed tombs, etc), even bringing their offense to his attention. But, as we all know, Jesus was not acting in sin as he berated them, despite how his recipients felt.
So then, if you are pointing out the ambiguity of classifying a particular act as a sin, then yes, it's not what society deems as such, but what God considers it to be.
And one good barometer to use, is to determine whether or not the act was derived from love, and not selfishness, contempt or apathy. And as you said, wiping the dust of your feet in the right context, is definitely, in my opinion, an act of love