Is being rude a sin?


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There are cultural forms of rudeness that we may not be aware of when visiting another country. We may not intend to be rude, but we may be rude by doing something they may find to be rude.

Yes, what people think is rude may vary. Nowadays it seems that telling the truth is considered rude, no matter how you tell it. And I think that is wrong. I think it is not sin to be rude. But it is wrong not to love others as yourself. And I think, if one loves, he is polite normally. But sometimes it may be good to be rude, if it helps other to right path.
 
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Yes, what people think is rude may vary. Nowadays it seems that telling the truth is considered rude, no matter how you tell it. And I think that is wrong. I think it is not sin to be rude. But it is wrong not to love others as yourself. And I think, if one loves, he is polite normally. But sometimes it may be good to be rude, if it helps other to right path.

Yes, perhaps a dash of rude (if it is a rudeness that God approves of but the world finds offensive), but it must be balanced in love for sure. Some out there appear to be overly condemning to a point of looking like the Westboro Baptist church, and they do not hold out hope and prayer for others to change their mind and seek forgiveness with the Lord. While somebody may appear to teach things falsely, we should preach to them in love, too. We should pray for them, and do good towards them and to love them. For this is what Jesus wants us to do for our enemies.
 
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I know I have to go back and edit a post when I've been attacked and react rudely. The Holy Spirit won't let me get away with it. And He'll tell me when I've gone to bed, and I'll have to get up and go edit it, or there will be no sleep tonight! LOL

Remember when we talked of sins not unto death called trespasses. That may be one. So we need to forgive other posters and use long-suffering and self control to develop those fruit of the Spirit. Then the Father will forgive us our rudeness.

I also wanted to encourage you to always stay strong in the Lord, sister. Finish the race for the love of our Savior Jesus.

For Jesus is our cornerstone.
 
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I also wanted to encourage you to always stay strong in the Lord, sister. Finish the race for the love of our Savior Jesus.

For Jesus is our cornerstone.

Thank you. I'm already giving all my stuff away so I can go home to be with the Lord! Can't wait, but I guess I'll have to.
 
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Here are some helpful definitions on Liberal Christianity (if you really do not know).

"Liberals view the Bible as the witness of God rather than the word of God. Strangely the view looks for support by a type of literal interpretation — though this should not be confused with the form of Biblical literalism found in fundamentalist and conservative churches — of the words of Paul in his second letter to Timothy:"​

Source:
Liberal Christianity - Conservapedia

"liberal Christians placed less emphasis on miraculous events associated with the life of Jesus than on his teachings. The effort to remove "superstitious" elements from Christian faith"​

Source:
What is liberal Christian theology? | GotQuestions.org


Liberal Christianity also embraces the evolutionary paradigm (see also: Evolution and liberalism).

In July 2000, Creation Ministries International reported:

“ For years, many people have scoffed at any suggestion that the evils in society could be linked with the teaching of the theory of evolution. But new research has confirmed what Bible-believers have known all along—that the rising acceptance of Darwin’s theory is related to declining morality in the community.

The research survey of 1535 people, conducted by the Australian National University, revealed that belief in evolution is associated with moral permissiveness. Darwin himself apparently feared that belief in evolution by the common man would lead to social decay. The survey showed that people who believed in evolution were more likely to be in favour of premarital sex than those who rejected Darwin’s theory. Another issue which highlighted the contrast between the effect of evolutionary ideas and that of biblical principles was that Darwinians were reported to be ‘especially tolerant’ of abortion.

In identifying the primary factors determining these differences in community attitudes, the author of the research report, Dr Jonathan Kelley, said: ‘The single most important influence after church attendance is the theory of evolution.’"​

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Liberal Christianity - Conservapedia

My definition of Liberal Christianity is deeper, but I will not go into that here at extensive length. Most conservative Christians know that liberal Christians tend to disregard certain cherished moral values that the Bible teaches. Morally speaking from my experience: Liberals tend to accept abortion, magic (witchcraft), paganism, and other things. They also have been known to think of stories like Job, and Jonah as myths and not real historical accounts. They also tend to think that either all forms of Christianity are saved in God's eyes, and or they think that all religions are one and there is truth in them all. For some liberals, Jesus is not one and only way to salvation.



John the Baptist comes off a lot like many street preachers today. While I would not take such an approach (unless the Lord personally told me to do so), it was not wrong of John the Baptist to tell people to repent and to call them brood of vipers, etc. (Luke 3:7).

I wanted to know your definition of liberal Christianity as many people define things in different way. It was not that I did not know what I considered liberal Christianity it is that I could not assume that you would define it the same way as I.

What is your view of liberal Christianity?
Is their view correct on Christianity?
Can we appear as rude to them by standing behind the values of the Bible?
I imagine in some cases like with the West Boro Baptist church, they can be wrong because they are not correcting others in love. But to take a stand against that which is ignored as being evil is not always wrong.

Ok now as for the defined Liberal Christianity in the post you took the time and effort to send out. Thanks for that BTW.

My view is that it seems very disjointed and lacks a central theme as well as internal consistency. It would seem to be based upon personal preference and finding a way to justify that.

Is their view correct? I would say that anyone that conformed to the definition you supplied would be hard pressed to give a good account as to why it was correct. Though there are some points that I consider reasonable, I certainly would not hold it as something I could be convinced was consistently well thought out.

Can we appear as rude to them( Liberal Christians ) by standing t behind the Bible? That is always possibility. I am sure that they can appear rude to others as well by doing what they consider to be standing behind the Bible.

Taking a stand against what one considers to be evil is never wrong. Accepting the fact that not everyone sees things as one does and that one might not always be correct is also never wrong. Seeing a person, rather than a situation or an action as evil and treating people as such is usually wrong.

John the Baptist was intense and may well have been considered rude by those he criticized but I do not know if what he did was actually rude. I don' t consider it rude if someone gets their feelings hurt because you tell them the truth. I do consider it rude if you set out to hurt someone's feelings by telling them the truth.
 
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I wanted to know your definition of liberal Christianity as many people define things in different way. It was not that I did not know what I considered liberal Christianity it is that I could not assume that you would define it the same way as I.

There is the general accepted definition of Liberal Christianity (of which I gave) by the general Christian community. While majority is not always right, it does make sense to me in this case for their argument on it. My definition goes a little deeper in the fact that it also includes an aspect of salvation that they deny (Which I believe is the Sanctification Process that takes place after one is saved by God's grace, i.e. the Justification Process).

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Ok now as for the defined Liberal Christianity in the post you took the time and effort to send out. Thanks for that BTW.

Your welcome.

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My view is that it seems very disjointed and lacks a central theme as well as internal consistency. It would seem to be based upon personal preference and finding a way to justify that.

Is their view correct? I would say that anyone that conformed to the definition you supplied would be hard pressed to give a good account as to why it was correct. Though there are some points that I consider reasonable, I certainly would not hold it as something I could be convinced was consistently well thought out.

So if you disagree with the standard definition I gave on Liberal Christianity as defined by the general Christian community, then it is highly probable you may fall under what they would consider as a "Christian Liberal" even though you do not adhere to that particular label that they give. I have talked with other Christians on the forums before who are not afraid of the Liberal Christian label; They actually profess that they are Christian Liberals.

Anyways, a person who is saved is held in a higher regard by God than the person who is not saved. This is not to say that a saved believer (according to how that is defined in God's Word) will think of themselves more highly than others, but they do realize that they are special to God and that they have precious promises that the unsaved do not have. Among even the camp of believers, Jesus talks about how there are those who appear as wolves in sheep's clothing. This means that not all people who profess to be a believer in Jesus is the real deal.

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Can we appear as rude to them( Liberal Christians ) by standing t behind the Bible? That is always possibility. I am sure that they can appear rude to others as well by doing what they consider to be standing behind the Bible.

I don't think we agree on what a Christian Liberal is. So there is no agreed upon "we" when you refer to your version or label of Christian Liberal. Again, according to the general Christian community, you do not agree with the label given for what a Christian Liberal (according to the general understanding on that word) is. Seeing you do not agree with the definition, it is highly probable you may fall under that category of the general understanding of that label (as it is commonly understood).

I say this because Liberal Christians (as labeled by the general Christian community, regardless of whether you subscribe to their label or not) tend to be against judgment of others, and or thinking that we cannot think we are held in regard by God (compared to others who reject Him). They see the judgment of others sometimes as being rude. While we should speak full of grace seasoned with salt, there is a time and a place for everything.

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Taking a stand against what one considers to be evil is never wrong. Accepting the fact that not everyone sees things as one does and that one might not always be correct is also never wrong. Seeing a person, rather than a situation or an action as evil and treating people as such is usually wrong. John the Baptist was intense and may well have been considered rude by those he criticized but I do not know if what he did was actually rude. I don' t consider it rude if someone gets their feelings hurt because you tell them the truth. I do consider it rude if you set out to hurt someone's feelings by telling them the truth.

Yet, John the Baptist called people a brood of vipers.
Surely this is offensive name calling that was meant to hurt their feelings.
The thing is that it was meant to stir up their emotions and to experience a godly sorrow over their sin. He was trying to convict them of their sin so that they would seek forgiveness with the Lord.
 
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Paul says he is rude in speech (See: 2 Corinthians 11:6 in the KJV). Was Paul sinning? Surely not.

An older definition of rude is "lacking subtlety or sophistication." It seems to me that Paul probably lacked sophistication in his manner of speaking, not that he was rude as in impolite.
 
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An older definition of rude is "lacking subtlety or sophistication." It seems to me that Paul probably lacked sophistication in his manner of speaking, not that he was rude as in impolite.

I do see that there is a form of worldly rudeness (Which does not condemn a person), and that there is a form of Godly rudeness (That can condemn us if we do not seek to heed the conviction of the Spirit if we really wronged somebody by such rudeness).
 
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Is being rude a sin?

Definition of Rude:
Rudeness is a display of disrespect by not complying with the social norms or etiquette of a group or culture. These norms have been established as the essential boundaries of normally accepted behavior.

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Note: Yes, I am aware of 1 Corinthians 13:5. The KJV does not use this word, though. Pauls says he is rude in speech (See: 2 Corinthians 11:6 in the KJV). Was Paul sinning? Surely not. In addition, there are examples of being rude in our culture that is really wrong (and I would consider it a sin).

Here are some examples given here:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-rude-behavior

And here:

The 25 Rudest Behaviors—Are You an Offender?

But what some may consider as rude may not always be rude to another.
There are cultural forms of rudeness that we may not be aware of when visiting another country. We may not intend to be rude, but we may be rude by doing something they may find to be rude.
Was Jesus being rude when He broke out the whips and trashed the money-changers tables?
 
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I do see that there is a form of worldly rudeness (Which does not condemn a person), and that there is a form of Godly rudeness (That can condemn us if we do not seek to heed the conviction of the Spirit if we really wronged somebody by such rudeness).

Please read my post. I was addressing the meaning of the word rude. If once meant something very different.
 
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Was Jesus being rude when He broke out the whips and trashed the money-changers tables?

Most definitely not.
It never crossed my mind that such a thing was ever rude to begin with.
Why would you assume that is what I thought?
 
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Liberal Christians (as labeled by the general Christian community, regardless of whether you subscribe to their label or not) tend to be against judgment of others

Then I suppose I am classified as a Liberal Christian if the general community of Christians thinks that only a Liberal Christian think it is not their place to judge others. Don't know exactly who that general community entails. Were any self described liberal Christians consulted on that definition because I can assure you they do not think I am among their number. In my experience. there are a number of people that call themselves liberal Christians that think very much it is their place to judge others. Perhaps they are in reality Conservative Christians in disguise? Funny how I can be considered a liberal Christian and a conservative Christian by two separate porters in a twenty four hour span. Perhaps, like Paul, I am all things to all people.
 
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Please read my post. I was addressing the meaning of the word rude. If once meant something very different.

I did read it. It does not mean I have to reply in response to your preferred definition. I see the word "rude" as doing something that causes minor harm towards others that one does out of an unloving heart. James 2 is an example. The brethren that James is writing to had respect of persons and they showed favor to the rich brethren but they showed no favor to the poor brethren. This was rude on their part to disregard the poor brethren. Another example? People here in Texas drive loud monster trucks, and suped up Mustangs. They are so loud, they will make your ears ring. Well, I have ringing in the ears prior to living here (Note: All glory to the Lord for that), but the point here is that they are being rude and or showing a lack of love towards others. They do not think what it is like for people like me who have sensitive hearing and it actually hurts my ears to hear them driving by (even with earplugs). But the Lord tells me to pray for all, and to be thankful in all situations (whether they be bad or good ones). These are the things I would call rude and they are sinful in a wrong way. But Jesus is rich in His mercy and He is willing to forgive if they come to Him and change their ways.
 
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Then I suppose I am classified as a Liberal Christian if the general community of Christians thinks that only a Liberal Christian think it is not their place to judge others. Don't know exactly who that general community entails. Were any self described liberal Christians consulted on that definition because I can assure you they do not think I am among their number. In my experience. there are a number of people that call themselves liberal Christians that think very much it is their place to judge others. Perhaps they are in reality Conservative Christians in disguise? Funny how I can be considered a liberal Christian and a conservative Christian by two separate porters in a twenty four hour span. Perhaps, like Paul, I am all things to all people.

A person can be a Liberal in anything. A person may have a Liberal way of eating with no real thought to nutrition or health. They just see food and drink and they devour it like barbarians. If a person is Liberal with the Bible, it means that they do not adhere to it as strictly in what it says. Do you believe the story of Job is a real story or just a myth or parable? It doesn't sound like a parable. Yet, the Christian Liberal who does not accept the miraculous or hard to believe things like dragons will simply allegorize the story based on the fact that they have never seen such a miraculous creature and in the fact that such a creature to them does not seem possible for it to exist because it breathes fire.
 
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I did read it. It does not mean I have to reply in response to your preferred definition. I see the word "rude" as doing something that causes minor harm towards others that one does out of an unloving heart. James 2 is an example. The brethren that James is writing to had respect of persons and they showed favor to the rich brethren but they showed no favor to the poor brethren. This was rude on their part to disregard the poor brethren. Another example? People here in Texas drive loud monster trucks, and suped up Mustangs. They are so loud, they will make your ears ring. Well, I have ringing in the ears prior to living here (Note: All glory to the Lord for that), but the point here is that they are being rude and or showing a lack of love towards others. They do not think what it is like for people like me who have sensitive hearing and it actually hurts my ears to hear them driving by (even with earplugs). But the Lord tells me to pray for all, and to be thankful in all situations (whether they be bad or good ones). These are the things I would call rude and they are sinful in a wrong way. But Jesus is rich in His mercy and He is willing to forgive if they come to Him and change their ways.

First, I don't have a "preferred definition." I provided the definition that the compilers of the KJV would have been using in referencing Paul's "rude" speech in 2 Corinthians 11:6. It doesn't mean rude in the way that you are using it. You are reading a 1611 book using 21st century definitions. It doesn't work that way. Trust me, Shakespeare was not referencing gay people when he used the word "faggots" in Henry VI, he was talking about bundles of sticks used for firewood. That is what the word meant then.
 
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First, I don't have a "preferred definition." I provided the definition that the compilers of the KJV would have been using in referencing Paul's "rude" speech. It doesn't mean rude in the way that you are using it. You are reading a 1611 book using 21st century definitions. It doesn't work that way. Trust me,

Sorry, I cannot trust you or your experience in this particular instance, my friend.
I believe my own experience on this matter trumps your own - IMO (no offense of course) (See this thread here on why I believe the KJV is divinely inspired perfect Word of God).

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Shakespeare was not referencing gay people when he used the word "#@$*&" in Henry VI, he was talking about bundles of sticks used for firewood. That is what the word meant then.

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Sorry, I cannot trust you or your experience in this particular instance, my friend.
I believe my own experience on this matter trumps your own - IMO (no offense of course) (See this thread here on why I believe the KJV is divinely inspired perfect Word of God).

What "experience?"

Words have meaning. You are trying to read a 1611 source using modern definitions. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
 
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What "experience?"

Words have meaning. You are trying to read a 1611 source using modern definitions. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

I never said that the English words of today are the same as they were in the 1600's English. I have been fully aware of this fact for a long time now.

Looking at the origin of the word "rude," it means:

"ill-mannered, uncultured; uneducated, uncultured" is from mid-14c."

Source:
rude | Origin and meaning of rude by Online Etymology Dictionary

A person who is ill mannered like a person driving a crazy loud monster truck, or a barbarian who eats an oversized large chicken wing in the most disgusting way is being insensitive to the feelings of others. Ill mannered means bad behavior out of a lack of love (Which is the same thing as what I am talking about). These folks are being rude in a bad way.
 
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No, Being rude is not a sin. It is a fruit falling from a Tree baring such fruit. I would not call rudeness a good fruit

"Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit."

"And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."

For this reason, we should make note of the fruit we bear.....
 
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