What day is the sabath what day does the bible say?

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The OP asked what day of the week is the Sabbath DAY & it was answered by many people: what we call Saturday today. That should have been sufficient for this thread. But then we have fleshly people, walking carnally that want to argue over words & judge others unrighteously. It should not be so, my brethren & needs to STOP.

2 Timothy 2:14,23 REMIND EVERYONE about these things & COMMAND THEM IN GOD'S PRESENCE--to STOP FIGHING over words. Such ARGUMENTS ARE WORTHLESS & they can RUIN those who hear them...But reject foolish & ignorant speculation, for you know that it breeds quarreling.

Titus 3:9 But avoid FOOLISH CONTROVERSIES (disputations, questionings), genealogies, arguments (contentions, strifes) & quarrels (battles) about the Law, because these things are pointless (unprofitable, useless) & worthless (ineffectual, vain, godless).

Acts 15:24 “We hear that men among us went out & have alarmed you with words & have SUBVERTED YOUR SOULS, as they were saying, 'Be circumcised AND keep The Law', which we have NOT commanded them.”

The OP is someone who wasn't sure about the Sabbath day & apparently not familiar with the Scriptures enough to answer it himself. He perfectly fits Romans 14:1!

"As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to PASS JUDGMENT (Greek 1253: 'diakriseis', act of judgment, distinguishing & discerning & disputing so as to come to a conclusion & pass judgment or sentence on)

ON HIS {INWARD} THOUGHTS (Greek 1261: 'dialogismon', inward reasonings, doubtings, hesitant deliberations)

The sad part is that those who chose to quote Romans 14 do not quote all of it, especially the part about JUDGING & PASSING SENTENCE your brother because of what he may eat or not eat (not talking about fasting) or on what day he observes to worship the Lord!

Romans 14:2 For one man has faith to eat all things, while another, who is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not belittle the one who does not & the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own Master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5One man regards a certain day above the others, while someone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes a special day does so to the Lord; he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God & he who abstains does so to the Lord & gives thanks to God.

7For none of us lives to himself alone & none of us dies to himself alone. If we live, we live to the Lord & if we die, we die to the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this reason Christ died & returned to life, so that He might be the Lord of both the dead & the living.

10Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle (Greek 1848: 'exoutheneo', treat with contempt, despise, esteem least, disregard, treat as of no account) your brother?

For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat...Therefore let us STOP JUDGING ONE ANOTHER. Instead, MAKE UP YOUR MIND NOT put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother’s way.

14I am convinced & fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then FOR HIM IT IS UNCLEAN. If your brother is distressed by what you eat, you are NO LONGER ACTING IN LOVE. Do not by your eating ruin your brother, for whom Christ died.

Keep your belief about such matters between yourself & God.

We should keep such matters concerning the Sabbath day or the Lord's Day between ourselves & God. Let each person be fully convinced IN HIS OWN MIND. If you observe the Sabbath day above others, then observe it to the Lord & give thanks & be refreshed with the saints of God.

If you observe the Lord's Day, then observe it to the Lord & give thanks & be refreshed with the saints of God.

BUT DO NOT PASS SENTENCE & JUDGMENT ON ANOTHER'S SERVANT! We are servants of Christ, all of us & are accountable & will be judged by the Righteous Judge of all the earth. 'Do NOT pass sentence & judgment before the time.'

DO NOT PUT STUMBLING BLOCKS & OBSTACLES in a brother's way or wound & bring to ruin another brother's faith & conscience.

It is to our shame to do so & destroy the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace & give occasion to the enemies of our common faith.
 
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The Most High God designates the first day of the month as the new moon. The first day of the year is the new moon after the spring equinox - at the time the barley turns green (abib/nisan). Six days after this new moon will be your weekly Sabbath - no matter what day it falls on the Gregorian calendar.

So you are a proponent of the lunar sabbath? The continual 7 count would be disrupted if that were true...
 
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Hi I always thought sunday was the sabath day but some people think the sabbath is on Saturday and now I don't know what day it realy is Saturday or sunday I always thought Sunday because God rested on the 7th day
Today we are in the age of Jubilee, so everyday is a Sabbath Rest.
Christians are a nation of priests, so like priest we work very hard everyday, but since we are in constant worship (sacrificing self), very formal worship at that (sacrificing) it is not work, since worship is never work.
 
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So you are a proponent of the lunar sabbath? The continual 7 count would be disrupted if that were true...

Continual 7 count?


I am not familiar with the dogma (not saying you are endorsing dogma), but what I have seen from the Most High God is He designated the day to align with astronomical markers throughout the year - which it does. The continual 7th day Sabbath from the New Moon lines up perfectly with the "phrasing" of holy weeks and days like Unleavened Bread, and Sukkot.

That is the calendar system I follow. For example, the Sabbath would be today until Sundown - since the New Moon after the spring Equinox was Friday, April 5th, 2019 at sundown (Gregorian), which means six days later is on Thursdays at sundown (Gregorian) until the next spring Equinox (abib). Today is the Weekly Sabbath, tomorrow is the bookend/High Sabbath of Sukkot. In terms of the math/physics and spirituality, it perfectly works out.



Now, if someone is following the Sabbath at all, I have nothing to say - because, at least that person is trying to adhere to the commandment. It took me a couple of decades of understanding the juxtaposition of the physics and spirituality behind His Laws on this matter, and while I was learning I was also following a designated Gregorian day Sabbath. The Most High God will educate all of us on all matters if we put in the effort.
 
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So you are a proponent of the lunar sabbath? The continual 7 count would be disrupted if that were true...

I think I see what you mean (?):

The Sabbath day is yearly; the New Moon is to determine the New Month, but the days are continuous - so the seven-day-counting is continuous until the next spring equinox. It astronomically lines up with the Holy Days.
 
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Amazing that the only law in the Ten Commandments that contains the "seal' of God is the sabbath commandment and it is the most controversial. We all can agree that lying stealing killing and committing adultery is against the laws. But not the one that God specifically ask "Remember".. When God mentions His "rest" it is always in context of the 7th day Sabbath, Friday night to Saturday night. From Genesis, just as soon as He was finished creation week, He "rested". In the commandments, He asked that His followers do the same and "rest" from their work.
 
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But isn't the 7th day sunday I don't realy understand why the 7th day is Saturday

Sunday IS the last day of the week for businesses, schools, shops etc who work Mon-Fri then have the weekend, and start again on Monday. But in Judaism, Saturday is the sabbath, the 7th day of the week. Jesus rose on the first day of the week, so the church celebrates that - the resurrection changed everything.
When the Lord created the universe, the days of the week did not have names. He worked 6 "days", then rested.
 
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But isn't the 7th day sunday I don't realy understand why the 7th day is Saturday
The confusion may come from the world, or from some religions traditions (of men).
Even some of he world's calendars for a few decades have shown the 1st day to be the 7th day, which is not in line with any Scripture, or course. What is taught in schools overseas, I don't know.
 
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Amazing that the only law in the Ten Commandments that contains the "seal' of God is the sabbath commandment and it is the most controversial. We all can agree that lying stealing killing and committing adultery is against the laws. But not the one that God specifically ask "Remember".. When God mentions His "rest" it is always in context of the 7th day Sabbath, Friday night to Saturday night. From Genesis, just as soon as He was finished creation week, He "rested". In the commandments, He asked that His followers do the same and "rest" from their work.
Not lying. Not all the time anyway. Not found in the ten words (commandments).

This came up recently as some people for various reasons think it was in the ten commandments.
 
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From what I have learned in scripture, Jesus Christ Himself is Lord of the Sabbath, and thus is the Sabbath.
Even in my own testimony I have His rest in my heart and before when I wasn't a Christian and going my own way, I was absolutely miserable - and it was showing from the inside out. Since surrendering fully to Christ, He gave me rest I have never known before. For me the Sabbath is everyday because He made that possible. :yellowheart:
 
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I strongly doubt that the commands given to "gentiles among you" in the pentateuch predate the decalogue.

The concept of "laws of noah" is similar, but not exact the same as Acts 15.
No Ten Commandments before sinai

““The LORD our God made a covenant with us at Mount Sinai. The LORD did not make this covenant with our ancestors, but with all of us who are alive today.” (Deuteronomy 5:2–3)
 
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The Most High God designates the first day of the month as the new moon. The first day of the year is the new moon after the spring equinox - at the time the barley turns green (abib/nisan). Six days after this new moon will be your weekly Sabbath - no matter what day it falls on the Gregorian calendar.
Well, someone here is on the ball and you are correct. The Hebrew calendar was a lunar calendar and they most certainly celebrated the new moon when it appeared.

We know that this was how the Hebrews numbered their days of the month, because the scripture tells us this.

1 Samuel 20:27
It came about the next day, the second day of the new moon, that David’s place was empty.

The second day of the lunar month!

The only people that count from the occurrence of the new moon are people following a lunar calendar. You will never hear people using a solar calendar mention the days numbered from sighting of the new moon.

The Gregorian calendar we use is a papal calendar. The papal calendar and the lunar calendar are different calendars altogether.
 
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The Bible does not say not everything is in the Bible nor is the Bible there to tell us everything, the Church tells us things too. Saturday Sabbath was for the Jews, the Christians chose the day Christ rose from the dead. It is so much better to start the week with Christ and began fresh.
So basically your saying the church gets to fill in the blanks as it sees fit and the rest of us should just accept what it says? Even though it may not be what God intended?
 
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All of this focus on the sabbath robs from this message...

And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. - 1 Corinthians 2:1-2

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. - Colossians 2

Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. - 1 Corinthians 16:1-2

This is about all the Apostle Paul said of the Sabbath Day. He did not condemn it or support it. The meeting of the church began on Sunday (known as the Lord's day) and has continued on that day ever since.
 
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The first day of the week is Sunday. Saturday is the true sabbath. The catholic church changed the sabbath to Sunday not God or Jesus.
You need to identify the Catholic church canon that changed the Sabbath day to Sunday.

I can identify the exact canon law in the Laodicea council (365 AD) that enforces Sunday and not Saturday.

The Catholic church does not accept the Laodicea council canons.

Hence, the onus is on you to quote the Catholic canon for us, the canon law that changed the Sabbath to Sunday, so that we can see it ourselves. The Catholic church is based on church canon law.
Some people say Sunday worship is part of the new covenant because of when Christ rose up. But Jesus never told us to change the sabbath.
Nor did Christ prohibit circumcision for that matter.

Sunday is the historical day of the resurrection as recorded in the scripture and church letters of the first few centuries.

The seventh day is the historical Jewish day of rest from labor, not the day to gather and break bread.
If the road to heaven is narrow it could not be what everyone else is doing.
You must enter through the door and that door is Christ.
The commandments say to keep holy the Lords day
The Lord's day is not the Sabbath day, unless the apostle John renamed the Sabbath day.
Jesus said he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it so old testament is still in place but you came come to the father thru Jesus now.
Jesus said not one letter of the law will fail until all is fulfilled. If Jesus fulfilled the requirement of the law for us, then indeed all is fulfilled.

Matthew 5:18
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

The whole law is in place until Jesus fulfills or accomplishes the task at hand. If circumcision passed, then a letter of the law has passed. Any letter of the law passing indicates that Jesus did indeed, fulfill the law and the prophets!
 
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Yes but the old testament says to keep holy the Lords day.
Please show any verse in the Old Testament that mentions, 'the Lord's day'.
God created the earth 6 days and rested on the 7th it has nothing to do with being Jewish.
Your quoting from the Hebrew Old Testament, Genesis was written by Jews at a time when they were under the law. So one would expect the law to be riddled through Genesis and that is exactly what we see.

Of course, God creates in six days and rests on the seventh day. What would you expect from the Jews under the law, describing the creation event. God needed to rest did He?
If you want to worship on Sunday you can but I'm staying with Saturday.
Sunday is a celebration of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, we break bread to remember Jesus and to fellowship. The seventh day is a day of rest from six days of labor.

You are deeply confused about Christianity.
 
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Sunday IS the last day of the week for businesses, schools, shops etc who work Mon-Fri then have the weekend, and start again on Monday. But in Judaism, Saturday is the sabbath, the 7th day of the week. Jesus rose on the first day of the week, so the church celebrates that - the resurrection changed everything.
When the Lord created the universe, the days of the week did not have names. He worked 6 "days", then rested.

He resurrected on the 1st day of the week because it was the correct day...Yom HaBikkurim! One day per year...Shabbat is weekly.
Shabbat Shalom!
 
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So the NT came out from a vacuum...I see...
The New Testament is about the new creation not the old creation.

The new creation is all about believers in Jesus Christ not about believers in Moses.

Grace, forgiveness, reconciliation came through Jesus Christ, condemnation came from Moses and the law.

How many people died when the law was introduced?

How many people died when grace was introduced?
 
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