Illegal - Invalid - unconstitutional Impeachment Proceedings

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Trump was doing the investigation himself. It was still informal. If it had not been for the "whistle blower" none of this would have been made public. Making this issue public goes a long way to hurting Biden bid for president because of all the negative press he is getting. People think they are attacking Trump. Usually whenever there is a scandal Trump comes out smelling like a rose. Joe public is not going to think anything of Trump asking question about Biden and his son.
ROFLOL. That really gave me the biggest laugh I’ve had in weeks. Thank you so much! Trump Investigation Agency.
 
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By which US law enforcement agency?
Biden and his son were being investigated in the Ukraine. This sort of corruption is not against the law there. So trump was pretty much coming up empty handed because no Ukraine laws had been broken. The impeachment thing makes Joe look guilty in the eyes of most people. So the democrats are pretty much messing things up for themselves. They are making a mountain out of a mole hill and that is making Joe look bad in the eyes of the voters. This is a classic case of the democrats trampling people rights all the time trying to claim they are there to protect their rights. This is another one of Hillary's scams. She did not even defend women's rights. This was just an empty promise that she would protect their rights if she got elected. Her record simply does not show her doing that.
 
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According to Trump.......................So they are conducting an Illegal - Invalid - unconstitutional Impeachment Proceedings.

According to the U.S. Constitution, sole authority is given to the Congress to impeach government officials.

Joshua 1 9: This has been shown to you on multiple times - yet you refuse to acknowledge this point. Do you believe our government, including President Trump, should abide by the Constitution or not?
 
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Biden and his son were being investigated in the Ukraine. This sort of corruption is not against the law there. So trump was pretty much coming up empty handed because no Ukraine laws had been broken.
If no laws were broken there why would Donald want to force a foreign government to reopen an investigation into one of his political rivals?
 
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ROFLOL. That really gave me the biggest laugh I’ve had in weeks. Thank you so much! Trump Investigation Agency.

He'll have the results right after he finishes his investigation into Obama's birth certificate. In 2011, Trump was telling us:

“You have people now out there searching – I mean, in Hawaii?” asked host Meredith Vieira.

“Absolutely,” Trump replied. “And they cannot believe what they’re finding.”

8 years later, the right still falling for Don the Con, hook, line, and sinker.
 
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So a "sitting president" (or any president, or certain persons) is/are "above the law"...?
There a difference between a sitting president, a president-elect and a former president with respect to who can be prosecuted by the DOJ. Mueller made it clear that DOJ protocol precluded charging the sitting president, that it was up to Congress to hold him accountable.

If the president were to be ousted, then, yes, then he could be subject to the criminal justice system (provided he is not preemptively pardoned).

I would say that the president, contrary to what the current one has declared, is NOT above the law, but that the law states that Congress has the authority to hold him accountable while he is in office.


So says you, and I thank you for your opinion, but I would rather have and know the truth...
Oh. So the question above was purely rhetorical? Perhaps before being so rudely dismissive, you should check out what I said for accuracy. I think you might be surprised.


Oh I don't doubt a lot of them are just "playing politics", (on both sides) (that many of you guys just eat up) (on both sides) but I have a pretty good BS sensor, and will wait for the real truth to come out, and decide for myself then, etc...
Huh, "you guys"....

And until it does, I'm neutral, and will stay that way until then...
Good for you for being above it all, unlike us guys.
 
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Why are you worried? Does Joe have something to hide that you do not want exposed? Even Trump admits Joe is a pretty good guy but the real problem was Obama and his corruption.
I'm worried because a flagrantly corrupt person is using his office for political gain and that doesn't phase most Republicans and other conservatives. This isn't about Biden, much less Obama.

This should worry you as well because if this is allowed, then it will be allowed next time there is a Democrat in the presidency. Is that something you actually want - this flagrant abuse of office?
 
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This is another one of Hillary's scams.
Aha! It's evil mastermind Hillary at it again!

So how is Soros, the other go-to boogeyman, involved?
 
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Trump was doing the investigation himself. It was still informal. If it had not been for the "whistle blower" none of this would have been made public. Making this issue public goes a long way to hurting Biden bid for president because of all the negative press he is getting. People think they are attacking Trump. Usually whenever there is a scandal Trump comes out smelling like a rose. Joe public is not going to think anything of Trump asking question about Biden and his son.

If Obama, in 2015, was investigating Trump, looking into the many claims of illegal activity by Trump, and "doing the investigation himself" would you have had an issue with it?

That you think it is appropriate for Trump to do a "private" investigation into a political rival says a lot about you; and that you apparently believe everything Trump tells you -- and disbelieve anyone who tells you different (no matter what evidence is provided) says a lot more.
 
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If Obama, in 2015, was investigating Trump
Obama was doing everything he could to stop Trump and get Hillary elected. The Bush family also had a son that was running. Trump had to take on the Clinton, Obama & the Bush family and he defeated them all to get elected.
 
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Obama was doing everything he could to stop Trump and get Hillary elected. The Bush family also had a son that was running. Trump had to take on the Clinton, Obama & the Bush family and he defeated them all to get elected.
No he was not. He was rather restrained up until Hillary won the nomination.
 
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Aha! It's evil mastermind Hillary at it again!
Yes, actually this all goes back to Jezebel. Cahn wrote a best selling book about this called: "The Paradigm". I actually read the book just so I could explain to people how archetypes work. Jung introduced archetypes to Science. Walt Disney made a living selling universal archetypes to the public. A lot of this does have to do with the imagination and how the subconscious mind works. I always like the story of Cinderella and how she had to deal with her step sisters and her step mom. I think this is a story that everyone can relate to. Just as we can take the story of Jezebel and apply it to the situation we find in Washington today.
 
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I'm worried because a flagrantly corrupt person is using his office for political gain
You are worried because he does not support your agenda. God has a plan for America. We should vote for Trump because he stands for this country. God did choose Trump. So we should support the changes he wants to make. He has created a lot of job. Many people are in agreement with what he wants to do and accomplish.

 
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You are worried because he does not support your agenda. God has a plan for America. We should vote for Trump because he stands for this country. God did choose Trump. So we should support the changes he wants to make. He has created a lot of job. Many people are in agreement with what he wants to do and accomplish.

For my part, I want to keep the country from falling into the hands of right-wing religious extremists who think Trump is the Chosen One of God.
 
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Once Hillary won the nomination he did everything he could to try to get her elected.

Certainly. If you count endorsing her and making some appearances to promote her "everything". Seems bit hyperbolic frankly.
 
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Yes, actually this all goes back to Jezebel. Cahn wrote a best selling book about this called: "The Paradigm". I actually read the book just so I could explain to people how archetypes work. Jung introduced archetypes to Science. Walt Disney made a living selling universal archetypes to the public. A lot of this does have to do with the imagination and how the subconscious mind works. I always like the story of Cinderella and how she had to deal with her step sisters and her step mom. I think this is a story that everyone can relate to. Just as we can take the story of Jezebel and apply it to the situation we find in Washington today.
Hillary Clinton is an actual person. An archetype is like a metaphor, more of an idea than actual. Donald is more of a a Jezebel than she is.


You are worried because he does not support your agenda.
My agenda is to not have a failed state with a corrupt yet inept president, so, sure.

God has a plan for America. We should vote for Trump because he stands for this country. God did choose Trump.
Sure. God has chosen whoever wins, isn't that how it works? So, if next time Donald doesn't win (supposing he lasts long enough to get to the next election), then that will also have been God's plan. Tautology.

So we should support the changes he wants to make. He has created a lot of job. Many people are in agreement with what he wants to do and accomplish.
I don't support many of the changes we wants to make. He has not created jobs, he happened to be president during an extended uptick in the economy that began before he took office. Yes, many people are in agreement but many people are in opposition. Donald demonizes those in opposition.
 
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Once Hillary won the nomination he did everything he could to try to get her elected.
You mean like Trump has endorsed, given speeches, etc. for Republican candidates around the country?
 
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