Abortions in US decline again, likely due to Obamacare contraceptive access

Hey look guys! The very definition of human is literally "A person".... but somehow, preborn humans are not persons. Why? For the same reason some people say Jews, blacks, and so forth are human but not persons: bigotry. It's the Unholy Trinity of Bigotry: Jews, Blacks, Preborn --- all humans but not persons. Christians have one God in three persons. Bigots have three humans but no persons.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Someone put the sole blame on the women. It's both their fault. Both are irresponsible, may always be irresponsible.
Don't pretend to me, that anyone cares about abused children. ​

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Yah, @David Cabrera has you on this one. No rights without responsibility, and no responsibility without rights. If the man has a responsibility in it then he also has a right in the decision of the pregnancy being carried out. No more of this "Her body. Her choice. His child support check" horse manure

But still no solution to the problem. All you want to do is demonize people who don't know how to prevent abortion, without so much as a suggestion of how to go about it.

KarateCowboy said:

Then the problem is you need to buy better dictionaries and get educated. Now you're just playing word games. Killing another human is homicide. The point stands.

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I'm not so arrogant to think that a dictionary that doesn't define things in the way I want them to is a "better dictionary". And you're ignoring that fact that to any average person, the word "homicide" has a legal component. I'm sure you know this, and that's why you're using the word.

And you're the one playing word games by resorting to emotional rhetoric in order to make a point. It's seemingly the only way your side operates. I especially notice how you and yours latch onto certain words and use equivocation to present a logically false claim. Don't think that people don't notice...

Also, "person" and "human" are synonyms. The overwhelming majority of thesauruses will show you that. "They're humans but they're not persons" is a false distinction made by anti-equality bigotry movements throughout history. They used to say that about negroes.

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Simple question which I doubt you're going to answer: is a headless body kept alive by machines a person with the same rights as every other person?

What's ridiculous is how you dehumanize others and act like it's somehow OK.

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There's not an "others" there to dehumanize. Zygotes lack the basic thing that is necessary to call a thing a "person".

Convince me otherwise.

I actually agree with you to a point on this. Your argument is ignoring biological reality and appealing to the same old "human but not a person" canard that white supremacists and other bigots have relied on.

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I'm glad you agree that you were unable to actually respond to my post. I haven't seen anyone who actually could successfully yet. I've presented a compelling case to deny personhood to a zygote on logical grounds. You can shut my argument down completely if you just successfully respond to it.

Well, that's the whole thing about bigotry: "An obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own views". In this case, the stubborn insistence to ignore history, biology, and walk in step with the KKK, Nazis, and other bigots. You use the same rationale as the extermination camp officers: "Well, the law defines it as legal to kill them, so it wasn't murder". Frankly, it's disgusting.

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Your insults aren't fooling anyone, and they don't bother me in the least. Actually, take a poll among the pro choice movement (presumedly the people who's minds you prefer to change) and see if they agree that I'm a disgusting bigot, or do they think that I have a valid point.

I'm waiting...