LDS Damnation for Refusal to Become Mormon

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ONE GOD--PERIOD. What one says---they all say.
You are so stuck on 1 you do not realize they are 3 distinct persons, with their own wills, etc.

At the baptism of Jesus, God the Father spoke from the heaven, God the Son spoke from the earth, and God the Holy Spirit came down from the heavens and eventually fell on Jesus on the earth. So which one of these 3 distinct beings said the verse in Isaiah?
 
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Find out if I will do it.

"I am bound" per Mormonism means God has to be obedient to laws established before the world began.

The Doctrine and Covenants teaches that “all kingdoms have a law given; and … there is no space in the which there is no kingdom” (D&C 88:36–37). Thus, it is clear that all things in the vast immensity of space are under the influence of law. All things are controlled, governed, and upheld by law—“nothing is exempt.” Nothing is arbitrary or left to chance. The “same invarying result always flows from the same cause.” The principles of eternal law “are immutable, eternal, everlasting.” (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 433.)...

President Brigham Young taught that “there is no being in all the eternities but what is governed by law” (Discourses of Brigham Young, p. 1). Elder Bruce R. McConkie stated, similarly, that Christ “governs and is governed by law” (Mormon Doctrine,p. 432.) God has said, for example, that He is bound when His children do what He says (see D&C 82:10). He is bound to fulfill His promises, for He is a being of complete integrity who conforms totally to the laws of righteousness. He is a celestial being and abides by celestial law, for any being “who is not able to abide the law of a celestial kingdom cannot abide a celestial glory” (D&C 88:22).
Enrichment G: The Nature and Purpose of Law


“I am the Lord thy God, and will give unto thee the law of my Holy Priesthood, as was ordained by me and my Father before the world was.”

The Lord has a plan, an order, a system for the salvation of the human family. It is an ancient plan—an eternal plan. It was explained to us and implemented in the premortal life and has been introduced—or “dispensed”—several times to mankind on the earth through chosen prophets, beginning with Adam.
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Doctrine and Covenants 132
28 I am the Lord thy God, and will give unto thee the law of my Holy Priesthood, as was ordained by me and my Father before the world was.

29 Abraham received all things, whatsoever he received, by revelation and commandment, by my word, saith the Lord, and hath entered into his exaltation and sitteth upon his throne.
Doctrine and Covenants 132
Did God have the right to change his mind and not bless those faithful tithe payers in Malachi?
 
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You are so stuck on 1 you do not realize they are 3 distinct persons, with their own wills, etc.

At the baptism of Jesus, God the Father spoke from the heaven, God the Son spoke from the earth, and God the Holy Spirit came down from the heavens and eventually fell on Jesus on the earth. So which one of these 3 distinct beings said the verse in Isaiah?

You are soooo stuck on 3 Gods when scripture says there is only one that you can not see the oneness. It doesn't matter who said it---carries the same weight.


oh_17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Joh_17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
 
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You are soooo stuck on 3 Gods when scripture says there is only one that you can not see the oneness. It doesn't matter who said it---carries the same weight.


oh_17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Joh_17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
What do you say about the 3 distinct persons at the baptism who were in 3 separate places at exactly the same time?
 
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What do you say about the 3 distinct persons at the baptism who were in 3 separate places at exactly the same time?

What about it? That has happened since creation---The Father was there---the Holy Spirit was upon the waters--Jesus did the creating----still one God. We don't have the capacity to fully understand yet.
The Holy Spirit is all over the world at the same time, Jesus is our High Priest in the heavenly temple, the Father is on His throne over the mercy seat------one God. We will find out more one day. I don't sweat the details now--they'll be wrong anyway.
 
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Did God have the right to change his mind and not bless those faithful tithe payers in Malachi?

Is there unrighteousness with God?

Romans 9
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
 
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What do you say about the 3 distinct persons at the baptism who were in 3 separate places at exactly the same time?

Just because humans can be in only one place at a time, doesn't limit God.
 
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You are so stuck on 1 you do not realize they are 3 distinct persons, with their own wills, etc.

At the baptism of Jesus, God the Father spoke from the heaven, God the Son spoke from the earth, and God the Holy Spirit came down from the heavens and eventually fell on Jesus on the earth. So which one of these 3 distinct beings said the verse in Isaiah?

There aren't 3 beings; there is only God.
 
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Matthew 18
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Ephesians 3
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Jeremiah 23
23 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?
24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.

Matthew 28
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

John 10
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
 
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Is there unrighteousness with God?

Romans 9
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Did Abraham sacrifice Isaac as God commanded him to do, or did God provide another?
 
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What about it? That has happened since creation---The Father was there---the Holy Spirit was upon the waters--Jesus did the creating----still one God. We don't have the capacity to fully understand yet.
The Holy Spirit is all over the world at the same time, Jesus is our High Priest in the heavenly temple, the Father is on His throne over the mercy seat------one God. We will find out more one day. I don't sweat the details now--they'll be wrong anyway.
That is exactly how we think of the Godhead. They are one God, but they are separate and distinct beings. Just because they can be in 3 places at exactly the same time, they are still one God. Thank you.
 
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There aren't 3 beings; there is only God.
Then why was there 3 beings in 3 different places at exactly the same time?

We believe they are one God, but they are 3 distinct and separate beings, like the bible tells us at the baptism of Jesus. (Matthew 3:16-17)
 
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Just because humans can be in only one place at a time, doesn't limit God.
But Matthew 3:16-17 shows us that God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit can be in 3 different places, at exactly the same time.

They are one God, in 3 distinct and separate persons. That reconciles all bible scriptures that tell us of the nature of the Godhead.
 
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They are one God, in 3 distinct and separate persons. That reconciles all bible scriptures that tell us of the nature of the Godhead.

So Heavenly Mom is excluded from the Godhead?
 
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One God with many beings.

One God with many followers. Come join us.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
 
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But Matthew 3:16-17 shows us that God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit can be in 3 different places, at exactly the same time.

They are one God, in 3 distinct and separate persons. That reconciles all bible scriptures that tell us of the nature of the Godhead.

Only God has the ability to give sight to the blind.

Isaiah 42:15-17
 
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Then why was there 3 beings in 3 different places at exactly the same time?

We believe they are one God, but they are 3 distinct and separate beings, like the bible tells us at the baptism of Jesus. (Matthew 3:16-17)

Isaiah 42:15-17
 
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Did Abraham sacrifice Isaac as God commanded him to do, or did God provide another?
Totally off-topic: read the OP.

D&C 132:3–6. “If Ye Abide Not That Covenant, Then Are Ye Damned”
Section 132, Marriage: An Eternal Covenant


Joseph Smith was asked, "Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?"

He answered "Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness.”
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119
 
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