What drives religious intolerance?

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Why should they care where we send our kids to school? We pay for it ourselves and still pay taxes that support the public school system.

Perhaps because we care about kids in general. I don't care if someone sends their child to a Catholic or Jewish school because in general tehy provide a good education. But some other sects and a lot of home schoolers provide a badly inadequate education which will set their children back several years a handicap most will never recover from.

Or put differently I care as much about a parent that does not provide for their children's educational needs just like I care about parents who fail to provide their children food, clothing or shelter.
 
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Perhaps because we care about kids in general. I don't care if someone sends their child to a Catholic or Jewish school because in general tehy provide a good education. But some other sects and a lot of home schoolers provide a badly inadequate education which will set their children back several years a handicap most will never recover from.

Or put differently I care as much about a parent that does not provide for their children's educational needs just like I care about parents who fail to provide their children food, clothing or shelter.
Thank you, this is a valid concern. I feel the same way about kids that are going to public schools and many of those schools are below standards. There are various reasons for this unfortunate fact, overcrowding, inexperienced teachers, kids with disciplinary issues, kids with undiagnosed learning disabilities, etc.
 
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LOL Not if vaccines work. :clap:
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Enlightenment eh?

Yes, enlightment. Ask and you shall receive. Government has been the #1 rights abuser of all time. Understanding this and their tactics are the door of enlightenment I presented. If you don't want to talk through it, ungood onto you. :pray:
 
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What drives religious intolerance?
Jesus said,
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.’" John 15:18-25 NKJV
 
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Yes, enlightment. Ask and you shall receive. Government has been the #1 rights abuser of all time. Understanding this and their tactics are the door of enlightenment I presented. If you don't want to talk through it, ungood onto you. :pray:
I wonder if you REEEAaaally thought That point through as much as it deserves..... "The government is the number one rights abuser of all time." Hmmm...


I don't want to spoil it but I'm curious if you'll be able to sort out the problem with that statement...
 
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I wonder if you REEEAaaally thought That point through as much as it deserves..... "The government is the number one rights abuser of all time." Hmmm...

Yea, guilt by accusation does not hold up to scrutiny.

Secular humanism, driving the religion of government control over others, drives religious intolerance today and that is clearly seen in the politically correct oppression speech and thinking. See even talking about NOT vaccinating your kids.
 
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Yea, guilt by accusation does not hold up to scrutiny.

Secular humanism, driving the religion of government control over others, drives religious intolerance today and that is clearly seen in the politically correct oppression speech and thinking. See even talking about NOT vaccinating your kids.
1. It's not guilty by association.
2. You'd find politically correct speech is much closer to how Jesus and Paul. Other suggest we talk to others.

3. Alsonot sure why you focus on secular humanism. Talk about a western specific ethos being used to explain the entirety of the human experience. More than a bit simplistic
 
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I understand this concern because not vaccinating your children can effect other people besides you and your children. Most Christians have their children vaccinated.

Exactly right about that Hank. A gal I've become friends with on here in fact had her health blown to smithereens on account of getting a VPD when she was a baby from an older kid who could have been vaccinated but wasn't.

Lots of Christian denominations have come out, said it clear they support vaccines. I believe other religions have done so to.

I don't understand why non-Christians should care what we think about marriage now that they have the legal right to a legal state marriage. We shouldn't have to condone it anymore than they need to condone our beliefs.

Agreed.

Why should they care where we send our kids to school? We pay for it ourselves and still pay taxes that support the public school system.

So long as the kids are going to an accredited school & getting a decent education, that's fine. I went to a Baptist school when we lived in a rural area, only on account of it being right there within spitting distance and the only public school being clear across the county. Lots of the teachers weren't actually teachers, they had no credentials. All they'd do is pass out workbooks. It was just daycare really, not a school. Fortunately when we moved back to Atlanta I went to a terrific public school that got me more than caught up. Unfortunately a lot of the other kids never got that chance. The Baptist school closed a couple of years back. I was glad to hear of that. Not saying all religious schools are awful. I went to a Catholic school for HS, in fact. It was incredible, lead to me getting a full scholarship.
 
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I'm not going to watch a 30 minute video. OP should be more than copy based. Offer a summary of the link. Throw out an opinion or 2.

What I saw of the vid header was to ask a question, "IS religious tolerance on the rise.?" Good question. What is the answer?

I think the answer is best seen when considering secular humanism of our government THE religiously intolerant institution of our time. Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Don't want to send your kids to government run schools? Don't think marriage applies to anyone but a man and a woman? Woah be onto you!

Except you get out what you put in. Like superficial limited attention span TV political interviews which don't resolve anything and are repeated ad nauseam, so I recommend you listen to the programme.

My own view: there's always an element of politics but thats just like saying religion invariably involves politics. Minorities are the ones who are persecuted so majoritarianism is an issue.

Freedom to not vaccinate your children = freedom to spread diseases to other people
 
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majoritarianism is an issue.

There is a saying, when in Rome do as the Roman's do.

Freedom to not vaccinate your children = freedom to spread diseases to other people

Then other people ought to take precautions.

A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.
Proverbs 27:1 (NLT)
 
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There is a saying, when in Rome do as the Roman's do.



Then other people ought to take precautions.

A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.
Proverbs 27:1 (NLT)

That verse is the perfect one to describe the folly of the simpletons who fail to make use of vaccines available to them.
 
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There is a saying, when in Rome do as the Roman's do.
But not a saying found in the Bible which cautions against your selfish attitude (other people should adjust their behaviour to suit me).

How about "love your neighbour" or "love your enemies". Apparently you don't believe in such things.
 
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That verse is the perfect one to describe the folly of the simpletons who fail to make use of vaccines available to them.
When I was 9 years old, my parents bought our family an Encyclopedia set. It was amazing, essentially, I had the whole of human knowledge at my fingertips. I would scroll through it for hours at a time, just fascinated that I had so much knowledge in front of me. I remember having an ephiphany, that if only we could give everyone an Encyclopedia set, if only everyone in the world could share in this knowledge, we'd end world hunger, war, crime, everything.

Now, we live in the information age, the whole of human knowledge is more or less at everyone's fingertips and despite this fact, there is a non-trivial percentage of human beings that believe things that would hurt or even kill us all.

It amazes me that in this day and age people believe vaccines are unnecessary and/or they do more harm than good.
 
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