DanishLutheran
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IME, city folk are more community-oriented than folks in the suburbs and exurbs. Rural farm folk are some sort of weird mix that I don't understand, being both highly communal and highly solitary. But for city folk, it's hard not to be neighborly when you're all up in each others' business all the time.
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And yet, crime rates are MUCH higher in dense urban centers than in rural areas.
Secular or Christian?
There's no such thing as "Christian socialism", despite some people calling themselves that.
They're either socialists who've made socialism their end and Christianity the means - thereby not being Christians - or Christians who are deluded into thinking that an inherently anti-Christian ideology (socialism) whose very aim is the destruction of Christianity, and which practises mass-murder and other kinds of persecutions of Christians, is somehow compatible with Christianity.
It is literally impossible to be both fully socialist, and a Christian. One cannot serve two masters.
How much did Jesus charge for the loaves and fishes (even at a good reduced Jewish rate)? Were His healings covered by parasitic health insurers? What did The Father charge for the Kingdom to Come. For resurrection? I guarantee you if it was up to man it wouldn't come cheap, Christian institutions have already verified that fact.
And literally NONE of the examples you've just used have anything to do with socialism.
Socialism existed in biblical times.
No
No such thing as Christian socialism? Wrong.
No. See above.
Socialism is a Christian concept,
No.
Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true. Goebbels was wrong.
giving to others and sharing was taught by Jesus.
And neither has anything to do with socialism.
It's kind of funny how people can think greed is more Christ-like
I agree - which is why I've spent so much time (more time than I care to think about) debunking your strange notions that an ideology which is, at its core, greedy and demoniacal, has anything to do wiht Christianity.
Even in communist Yugoslavia, only 1% of the population were atheist. 99% were religious, and this is fact...
Source? And no, "trust me, bro" isn't a source.
Also: Try taking your religion seriously in any socialist country, including pre-civil war Yugoslavia, and you'll find yourself in a KZ-camp faster than you can say "Hail Stalin". Though, admittedly, Yugoslavia was LESS insane about this than the other socialist countries.
Also, do note the fact that there's such a thing as "cultural religion". It is especially widespread in Europe, and more or less means that while people use "religious" terms to describe themselves, most of them merely mean "I am catholic/protestant/orthodox because that's what we are here in [insert country here]". Not including the forces of the invasion that has occurred over the past few decades, btw, but the actual Europeans.
Socialism actually has nothing to do with religion,
Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true. Goebbels was wrong.
but the concept is a lot more Christ-like than capitalism is.
Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true. Goebbels was wrong.
It was a concept that was around in kingdoms since biblical times..
Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true. Goebbels was wrong.
And there is nothing wrong with it.
There is everything wrong with it.
think socialism is against Christianity and don't support it. It is really odd.
That kinda has to do with the fact that Christians know how we fare under socialist governments.
Sure, if martyrdom is forced upon us, we must accept it.
But there's no reason whatsoever to encourage the process that lands us there, or actively suport the movements that do so.
. But I am for democratic socialism
There's no such thing, just as there is no such thing as "democratic fascism". The terms are contradictory by nature.
But socialism like in Sweden and Norway today would be pretty sweet to have here in Canada.
Neither Sweden, nor Norway, nor Denmark, is socialist
I am centre-left and I am a fundamentalist bible-believing born again Christian. So how do you explain that? They are not mutually exclusive.
They are. See above.
Most countries in Europe are the same. Social democratic principles are simply normal (unlike in America) and usually Christians in those countries elect those governments.
Again: See above. I'm done retyping the same thing over and over again.
Socialism is a good concept
No, it isn't.
and those who disagree with it are usually greedy. .
No, it's usually the socialists who are greedy for other peoples' money they can then decide to give out to whomever they find worthy.....usually their own supporters.
I'm a Christian who doesn't care that my tax money goes to programs that help the poor, because I WANT to help the poor. That should be everyone's mindset.
Take your strawman and shove it back under the couch where you swept it out from.
No one does not want to help the poor.
So much for an “inerrant Bible”!
Nonsense. "So much for deliberate misinterpretations of the Bible", is the correct phrase.
But he preached concepts of socialism like giving back.
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