Why we won't solve global warming.

Speedwell · May 19, 2019

crossnote said:
It simply answered your question with a viable explanation. And as a 'Christian', I assume you believe God created Adam.

As a Christian, it is not necessary to believe in a literal Adam.

JackRT · May 19, 2019

crossnote said:
If the Bible is 'entirely man made' as you say, then why waste your time on a 'Christian Forum' which is (according to you) based entirely on a man made book? Isn't that a bit boring?

Actually, it is not boring at all and the topics are interesting and important because truth matters.

Sparagmos · May 19, 2019

crossnote said:
First we are alarmed about Global Warming (thanks to the one who invented the internet), then we are told the climate gets warm and cold (climate change).

I think you misunderstand. Scientists are clear and in nearly unanimous agreement that the climate is warming. No one is saying that the climate gets warm and cold. With climate warming we also see larger cold spikes. Meaning there are fewer cold days overall but there are more cold spikes. As someone else mentioned, this was predicted even when climate change was referred to as global warming.

crossnote · May 19, 2019

JackRT said:
Actually, it is not boring at all and the topics are interesting and important because truth matters.

God's Word is true< man"s word fluctuates

Mountainmanbob · May 19, 2019

Strathos said:
So destroying and polluting the earth that God created is showing it respect?

Is that what you believe?

We of this house do
(our little part).

God's got it under control.

Don't worry
be happy now.

M-Bob

Dirk1540 · May 19, 2019

pitabread · May 19, 2019

oh nevermind

crossnote · May 19, 2019

Speedwell said:
What has a "globalist agenda" to do with Christianity? It sounds more like an issue for Nationalists than for Christians.

It works hand in hand.
Globalism vs nationalism
antichrist will rule globally.
Israel would love to be swallowed up by the globalists.
Problem is, God won't allow that to happen.

that's why there is that concern by some Christians.

Nithavela · May 19, 2019

pitabread · May 19, 2019

Nithavela said:

Turns out that cover was a hoax. Whoops!

Strathos · May 19, 2019

Mountainmanbob said:
Is that what you believe?

We of this house do
(our little part).

God's got it under control.

Don't worry
be happy now.

M-Bob

God has it under control, but perhaps not in the way you think.

Revelation 11:18 said:
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Gene2memE · May 19, 2019

Nithavela said:

Except that cover is a fake.

Here's Time's cover archive for 1977.

The TIME Vault: 1977

Here's the Snopes article on the fake:

FACT CHECK: Did a 1977 'Time' Story Offer Tips on 'How to Survive the Coming Ice Age'?

The 1977 cover is a doctored version of a 2007 cover about climate change.

Strathos · May 20, 2019

Gene2memE said:
Except that cover is a fake.

Here's Time's cover archive for 1977.

The TIME Vault: 1977

Here's the Snopes article on the fake:

FACT CHECK: Did a 1977 'Time' Story Offer Tips on 'How to Survive the Coming Ice Age'?

The 1977 cover is a doctored version of a 2007 cover about climate change.

When one side is blatantly doctoring images to create false evidence, it's generally a good indication that they have no real facts behind their claims.

Gene2memE · May 20, 2019

No Username Found said:
An effort that is not shared globally. Basically, until China and India gets their act together, it doesn't matter what we do.
Note: Look at the EU. Weren't they the ones lecturing the U.S. and leading the way on the war on carbon emission with the Paris Accord?
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Total EU GHG emissions are down 21.6% since 1990. 2017 is the first year with significant emissions growth since 2010.

Total greenhouse gas emission trends and projections

In comparison, total US GHG emissions are up 1.3% since 1990.

Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks Fast Facts | US EPA

The EU has been leading first world emissions reductions for decades. A one off increase does not make a trend.

On China and India - their emissions are massively lower than the EU/US on a per capita basis AND both countries are putting the US into the shade when it comes to investing in renewables and low carbon emissions technology. Both countries invested more in renewables energy generation than fossil fuels energy generation in 2016 (the last year I have reliable data for).

ralfyman · May 20, 2019

The current global population is growing even with lower birth rates because of population momentum, and its ecological footprint per capita is also growing because most people are poor and need more resources for basic needs and wants. The use of resources and energy is what leads to both rising CO2 ppm and ecological damage.

Given that, the best that can be down is for the whole population to cut down resource use drastically to subsistence levels, and do that for many decades until CO2 ppm and ecosystems stabilize. But that's not likely to happen because various economies operate through capitalist growth and competition.

Nithavela · May 20, 2019

Gene2memE said:
Except that cover is a fake.

Here's Time's cover archive for 1977.

The TIME Vault: 1977

Here's the Snopes article on the fake:

FACT CHECK: Did a 1977 'Time' Story Offer Tips on 'How to Survive the Coming Ice Age'?

The 1977 cover is a doctored version of a 2007 cover about climate change.

Ah, spoilsport.

tampasteve · May 20, 2019

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DennisTate · May 27, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
For the same reason we don't pick up litter left by someone else.

The left believes that the right is responsible for global warming. So they insist that the right solve the problem, while they supervise.

When is the last time you saw the one who makes a mess clean it up (if no one saw them make it)?

A near death experiencer was shown that we will soon start to make some serious improvements in our approach to each other and to the planet we live on......

I went over to the other side during my near-death experience with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, "we do not need this any more." Now we are actally in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back from my near-death experience loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now "soul size." Do we have soul size answers, YES!

The clearing of the rain forest will slow down, and in fifty years there will be more trees on the planet than in a long time. If you are into ecology, go for it; you are that part of the system that is becoming aware. Go for it with all your might, but do not be depressed. It is part of a larger thing. Earth is in the process of domesticating itself. It is never again going to be as wild a place as it once was. There will be great wild places, reserves where nature thrives. Gardening and reserves will be the thing in the future. Population increase is getting very close to the optimal range of energy to cause a shift in consciousness. That shift in consciousness will change politics, money, energy." (Mellen Benedict, near-death. com)

OldWiseGuy · May 27, 2019

TuxAme said:
We won't solve global warming because the left is obnoxious about it. Bill Nye's attitude (for example) just causes people to dig in their heels and respond the same way they were spoken to- disrespectfully and obnoxiously. Which leads me to believe that congressional democrats (and those who idolize them) aren't interested in actually getting the problem solved.

"Don't let a good crisis go to waste". Milk it for all it's worth.

OldWiseGuy · May 27, 2019

JackRT said:
If by "God's words" you mean the Bible then I disagree. The Bible is entirely man made and when it disagrees with science, I tend to opt with science.

Siding with science is certainly more profitable.

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