Can I be a Christian and gay?

RyanB92 · May 14, 2019

hi

recently through reading the gospels and praying, I have found faith in God. I have now turned to him and given my life to Christ and want to follow the path he has for me.

The thing I am struggling most with now is His views on homosexuality. For a long time now I have identified as gay and had multiple relationships with other men.

I know that if I am truly sorry and repent, God will forgive me. But I dont know if I can honestly repent from this, it isnt something I feel like I want to give up. I was told that if I pray and ask, God will give me the strength to overcome it. But I dont know if I want that.

I knew that asking God into my heart would mean big changes for my life, but leaving my homosexuality behind is a huge change that I dont think Im ready for, and dont know that I ever will be. I know that the bible teaches this is sinful, but still it is a part of me that has brought me happiness and I dont want to throw that away.

I know I promised my life to God, but I dont think this lifestyle is something I want to give up. So is it possible for me to serve Christ and still be gay? Or am I rejecting Him by refusing to repent?

How do I find the courage to make such a drastic change Im not 100% sure about?

frogoon234 · May 14, 2019

RyanB92 said:
hi

recently through reading the gospels and praying, I have found faith in God. I have now turned to him and given my life to Christ and want to follow the path he has for me.

The thing I am struggling most with now is His views on homosexuality. For a long time now I have identified as gay and had multiple relationships with other men.

I know that if I am truly sorry and repent, God will forgive me. But I dont know if I can honestly repent from this, it isnt something I feel like I want to give up. I was told that if I pray and ask, God will give me the strength to overcome it. But I dont know if I want that.

I knew that asking God into my heart would mean big changes for my life, but leaving my homosexuality behind is a huge change that I dont think Im ready for, and dont know that I ever will be. I know that the bible teaches this is sinful, but still it is a part of me that has brought me happiness and I dont want to throw that away.

I know I promised my life to God, but I dont think this lifestyle is something I want to give up. So is it possible for me to serve Christ and still be gay? Or am I rejecting Him by refusing to repent?

If when you were saved and you repented of being gay or if you weren't gay then, yes you can be gay later. There are however temporal punishments on earth for bad behavior such as acting on your homosexual desires. 1st Corintians chapter 3 says when we get to heaven our works here on earth will be tested with fire. We will get rewards in heaven based on our works here on earth. That being said the Bible is very clear, "Once Saved Always Saved". You should repent of your sins frequently and try not to act on your sexual desires.

Having temptations and thoughts is different from actually acting on those thoughts.

Most people have some homosexual tendencies. The book of Romans attests to this.

devin553344 · May 14, 2019

RyanB92 said:
hi

recently through reading the gospels and praying, I have found faith in God. I have now turned to him and given my life to Christ and want to follow the path he has for me.

The thing I am struggling most with now is His views on homosexuality. For a long time now I have identified as gay and had multiple relationships with other men.

I know that if I am truly sorry and repent, God will forgive me. But I dont know if I can honestly repent from this, it isnt something I feel like I want to give up. I was told that if I pray and ask, God will give me the strength to overcome it. But I dont know if I want that.

I knew that asking God into my heart would mean big changes for my life, but leaving my homosexuality behind is a huge change that I dont think Im ready for, and dont know that I ever will be. I know that the bible teaches this is sinful, but still it is a part of me that has brought me happiness and I dont want to throw that away.

I know I promised my life to God, but I dont think this lifestyle is something I want to give up. So is it possible for me to serve Christ and still be gay? Or am I rejecting Him by refusing to repent?

This thread appears to border on the promotion of homosexuality which is not allowed in the Christian Forums. Please be careful. The bible contradicts homosexuality so you should find a way to repent and give up that desire.

frogoon234 · May 14, 2019

devin553344 said:
This thread appears to border on the promotion of homosexuality which is not allowed in the Christian Forums. Please be careful. The bible contradicts homosexuality so you should find a way to repent and give up that desire.

oh. I'm not saying your wrong. I read the rules that you can't homphobic. You learn something new everyday.

St_Worm2 · May 14, 2019

frogoon234 said:
1. If when you were saved and you repented of being gay or if you weren't gay then, yes you can be gay later.
2. Most people have some homosexual tendencies. The book of Romans attests to this.

Hi Frogoon, we're not allowed to debate each other on this particular board, but I am wondering if you'd mind providing us with the Scripture references that you believe support both of the propositions that you posited for us above?

Thanks!

--David

devin553344 · May 14, 2019

frogoon234 said:
oh. I'm not saying your wrong. I read the rules that you can't homphobic. You learn something new everyday.

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RyanB92 · May 14, 2019

devin553344 said:
This thread appears to border on the promotion of homosexuality which is not allowed in the Christian Forums. Please be careful. The bible contradicts homosexuality so you should find a way to repent and give up that desire.

Im not promoting anything. Only discussing my personal experiences and looking for support and advice as a new Christian.

frogoon234 · May 14, 2019

devin553344 said:
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How is this my responsibility. It wasn't my forum topic. I know your just doing your job and trying to pay your rent but some of these rules are ridicoulous. Take down this set of posts if you like. I really don't care.

jacks · May 14, 2019

Of course you can be a Christian and gay. Jesus loves you just as much as anyone else. The sticking point is whether one should act on desires they think are sinful. (The same would apply to unmarried heterosexual encounters.) Pray for guidance with a sincere and open heart. You might find you are willing to give up more than you realize and be happy doing it.

Deborah D · May 14, 2019

Hi, Ryan, all I can tell you is what God's says about this in His Word.

1 Corintians 6:9-11--Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality, no thieves, greedy people, drunkards, verbally abusive people, or swindlers will inherit God’s kingdom. And some of you used to be like this. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

devin553344 · May 14, 2019

frogoon234 said:
How is this my responsibility. It wasn't my forum topic. I know your just doing your job and trying to pay your rent but some of these rules are ridicoulous. Take down this set of posts if you like. I really don't care.

Just providing information.

RyanB92 · May 14, 2019

jacks said:
Of course you can be a Christian and gay. Jesus loves you just as much as anyone else. The sticking point is whether one should act on desires they think are sinful. (The same would apply to unmarried heterosexual encounters.) Pray for guidance with a sincere and open heart. You might find you are willing to give up more than you realize and be happy doing it.

Thank you for your response. I will absolutely keep praying for God to show me the way. Its just all very overwhelming and a bit scary, I don't think I fully realised how much my life would change when I offered it up to him.

Im scared that even if I pray to God about this, there will be a small part inside me that is not sincere. But I guess all I can do is pray to God to change my heart.

seeking.IAM · May 14, 2019

There are Christian churches that will accept you. Check them out.

Deborah D · May 14, 2019

RyanB92 said:
Thank you for your response. I will absolutely keep praying for God to show me the way. Its just all very overwhelming and a bit scary, I don't think I fully realised how much my life would change when I offered it up to him.

That's why Jesus said to count the cost. We have to give up everything for Him and to Him, but it's so worth it!!

paul1149 · May 14, 2019

RyanB92 said:
How do I find the courage to make such a drastic change Im not 100% sure about?

As with everything, the most important thing to to affirm that your heart belongs to Jesus.

If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.”
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him.
For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” -Rom 10

Now, all who are His purify themselves, as He is holy so must we be.

But what if you're stuck in a sin, or even in wanting to be delivered from the sin? We are saved not by our performance, but by His, and if we are His grace covers us. But we must not justify our sin (see 1Jn 1.9). Our hearts must be submitted and willing to be molded. We can pray, "Lord, I am willing". And if we cannot honestly pray that, we can pray, "Lord, I am willing to be made willing".

Stay faithful to the Lord in the state you are in, even if that state is imperfect. Stay in the Word and meditate on it, and ask for more of the Holy Spirit. There also may be support groups that will give you guidance and encouragement.

being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; -Phil 1.6

Sketcher · May 14, 2019

You can definitely be a Christian. You cannot however, have homosexual relationships.

topher694 · May 14, 2019

RyanB92 said:
hi

recently through reading the gospels and praying, I have found faith in God. I have now turned to him and given my life to Christ and want to follow the path he has for me.

The thing I am struggling most with now is His views on homosexuality. For a long time now I have identified as gay and had multiple relationships with other men.

I know that if I am truly sorry and repent, God will forgive me. But I dont know if I can honestly repent from this, it isnt something I feel like I want to give up. I was told that if I pray and ask, God will give me the strength to overcome it. But I dont know if I want that.

I knew that asking God into my heart would mean big changes for my life, but leaving my homosexuality behind is a huge change that I dont think Im ready for, and dont know that I ever will be. I know that the bible teaches this is sinful, but still it is a part of me that has brought me happiness and I dont want to throw that away.

I know I promised my life to God, but I dont think this lifestyle is something I want to give up. So is it possible for me to serve Christ and still be gay? Or am I rejecting Him by refusing to repent?

How do I find the courage to make such a drastic change Im not 100% sure about?

OK, so, first of all praise God and congratulations on your decision!

My "pastoral" advice for you as someone new to their faith is this. Don't worry about this stuff just yet. For now focus on God. Learning about Him and becoming closer to Him. I'm not saying the other stuff isn't important, it is, but you don't need to figure out everything the first day. But as you grow to know Him more you'll grow to be more like Him and when the time is right He will begin to guide you in this and bring mentors into your life to help and encourage you.

Handmaid for Jesus · May 14, 2019

@RyanB92 Yes you can be a Christian. You said you gave your life to Christ. Well, that means you gave Him everything that you are. Your life is now in Christ. You are a new creature in Christ. Old things are passed away. Behold all things are become new. Now it may take a bit of time to mold your flesh, but know that God's word is working in you to will and to do His good pleasure. Welcome to the family.

Bumble Bee · May 14, 2019

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